TT 2022

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DarthtaterM16

913 posts

102 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Olivier Lavorel Passed away earlier on today/yesterday four months after the accident in sidecar race one.

Poor lad.

Sidecar Man

587 posts

61 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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DarthtaterM16 said:
Olivier Lavorel Passed away earlier on today/yesterday four months after the accident in sidecar race one.

Poor lad.
Yeah very sad news. He was a nice guy.

Marquezs Stabilisers

1,222 posts

61 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Zarco said:
Not enough old air fields at a guess.

Good question though. Not like there's a lack of Scots in motorsport.
Only East Fortune gets used for club motorcycle racing. I don't think they race in the park in Kirkcaldy any more, whilst Crail Airfield and the Royal Highland Showground at Ingliston are car rallying only. Knockholt is a bit mickey mouse tbh, but most of the old WW2 airfields are so far away from anywhere they wouldn't be commercially viable without a huge spend. Knockhill would be great if it was twice the size

bolidemichael

13,868 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th October 2022
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A couple of weekends ago we spent two nights and a day on the IoM with our motorbikes. Thankfully, the weather wasn't too bad and we had a fantastic time riding around the island. The TT course is very nice, with my favourite part being the west side of the island from Ballacraine and all the way to Ramsey. The Mountain was pretty entertaining at times, with the strong wind pushing the front wheel to skip and the surprisingly slippery white lines.

An amazing place and so pleased that I managed to experience it when it wasn't too busy, having watched TT videos, starting with the late DJ, since before I got my licence in 2002.


ArnageWRC

2,066 posts

159 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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No discussion on the changes to the new TT schedule, with the Senior now on the Saturday.........

Petrus1983

8,740 posts

162 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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DarthtaterM16 said:
Olivier Lavorel Passed away earlier on today/yesterday four months after the accident in sidecar race one.

Poor lad.
4 months! He put up a good fight. RIP Lavorel.

Zarco

17,872 posts

209 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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ArnageWRC said:
No discussion on the changes to the new TT schedule, with the Senior now on the Saturday.........
Have you got anything to say about it....

Sidecar Man

587 posts

61 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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ArnageWRC said:
No discussion on the changes to the new TT schedule, with the Senior now on the Saturday.........
Not sure its a great Idea but all about the TV. Post TT cancelled. People with boats booked already will have to extend stay and marshals might be short again. Not sure I will be going next year. There was a few things this year that soured the event for me this year.

Rob 131 Sport

2,527 posts

52 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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Sidecar Man said:
ArnageWRC said:
No discussion on the changes to the new TT schedule, with the Senior now on the Saturday.........
Not sure its a great Idea but all about the TV. Post TT cancelled. People with boats booked already will have to extend stay and marshals might be short again. Not sure I will be going next year. There was a few things this year that soured the event for me this year.
Apart from the most unfortunate and upsetting loss of 6 lives, what else soured the TT for you this year.

Sidecar Man

587 posts

61 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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Rob 131 Sport said:
Apart from the most unfortunate and upsetting loss of 6 lives, what else soured the TT for you this year.

Made to buy an Expensive FIM helmet on grounds of "Extra Safety" No problem i will do that. But then they allow a team to do a shakedown Lap with Helmet Cameras mounted to said FIM helmets Even though the FIM banned the use of helmets due to the dangers of them impacting the shell of the helmet. Said team then stopped on the lap after running in a new back tyre for a few miles and had team mates waiting behind road closed barrier to change tyre and adjust chain, Put bodywork back on and carry on the lap. Without the bike being checked by a technical inspection. But nothing was said about it!!!!

Waitforme

1,188 posts

164 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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DarthtaterM16 said:
Olivier Lavorel Passed away earlier on today/yesterday four months after the accident in sidecar race one.

Poor lad.
Sad news.
Not sure what can be done but the bikes are just too powerful for the circuit now.
I know no one is forced to race blah blah but deaths every year is just ridiculous.

Sidecar Man

587 posts

61 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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Waitforme said:
Sad news.
Not sure what can be done but the bikes are just too powerful for the circuit now.
I know no one is forced to race blah blah but deaths every year is just ridiculous.
Sidecars are using 600 engines and have been for the last 15-20 years. You can get about 135bhp out of one. No different to the last 10 years!!

Rob 131 Sport

2,527 posts

52 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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Sidecar Man said:
Waitforme said:
Sad news.
Not sure what can be done but the bikes are just too powerful for the circuit now.
I know no one is forced to race blah blah but deaths every year is just ridiculous.
Sidecars are using 600 engines and have been for the last 15-20 years. You can get about 135bhp out of one. No different to the last 10 years!!
It must be very difficult for the organisers as regards the sidecars. Four people killed at the same location in one year.

Sidecar Man

587 posts

61 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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Rob 131 Sport said:
It must be very difficult for the organisers as regards the sidecars. Four people killed at the same location in one year.
Yeah very strange situation. As the crashes were identical and within 6" of each other. The road being planned and resurfaced at that point is also being looked at.
Numerous new regulations are due for next year.

scunnylad

1,725 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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Sidecar Man said:
Made to buy an Expensive FIM helmet on grounds of "Extra Safety" No problem i will do that. But then they allow a team to do a shakedown Lap with Helmet Cameras mounted to said FIM helmets Even though the FIM banned the use of helmets due to the dangers of them impacting the shell of the helmet. Said team then stopped on the lap after running in a new back tyre for a few miles and had team mates waiting behind road closed barrier to change tyre and adjust chain, Put bodywork back on and carry on the lap. Without the bike being checked by a technical inspection. But nothing was said about it!!!!
The Birchalls at Ballacraine ?

Yazza54

18,519 posts

181 months

Friday 28th October 2022
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Sidecar Man said:
Waitforme said:
Sad news.
Not sure what can be done but the bikes are just too powerful for the circuit now.
I know no one is forced to race blah blah but deaths every year is just ridiculous.
Sidecars are using 600 engines and have been for the last 15-20 years. You can get about 135bhp out of one. No different to the last 10 years!!
Well said. Tragic accidents but these things always bring out the casual fans & critics with their nonsensical opinions.

Sidecarman - out of interest, if there was a move to go back to 1000cc outfits, would you be up for it and do you think the rest of the competitors would too?

As a racer I think I know the answer but interested to hear what you say... Hypothetically of course so ignoring the cost involved etc, just the prospect of racing a faster outfit.

Edited by Yazza54 on Friday 28th October 07:35

Sidecar Man

587 posts

61 months

Friday 28th October 2022
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scunnylad said:
The Birchalls at Ballacraine ?
Yep

Sidecar Man

587 posts

61 months

Friday 28th October 2022
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Yazza54 said:
Well said. Tragic accidents but these things always bring out the casual fans & critics with their nonsensical opinions.

Sidecarman - out of interest, if there was a move to go back to 1000cc outfits, would you be up for it and do you think the rest of the competitors would too?

As a racer I think I know the answer but interested to hear what you say... Hypothetically of course so ignoring the cost involved etc, just the prospect of racing a faster outfit.

Edited by Yazza54 on Friday 28th October 07:35
Difficult question Not sure I'd fancy it but if everyone was using one I guess I'd get on 1 rolleyesrolleyes. A short F2 bike with a 1000 in it would be lethal. I've been on an F2 with a 750 in it and that was hard enough.
Bear in mind the long bikes have gone 600 and are now quicker than the 1000 due to better handling and higher corner speed.