Does anyone at all here like Harleys?

Does anyone at all here like Harleys?

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bimsb6

8,045 posts

222 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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DirtyHarley said:
Krikkit said:
100% agree with you, hopefully the split-off of the Livewire into a sub-brand is the start of that.
... they already have! LiveWire is no longer a HD badge.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2021/july/live...


As for the 'Sportster-S' - I'd give one a go, but the looks just don't appeal to me at all - sounds silly - but way too sporty for my liking - I like cruiser bikes, HDs are meant to be that style, even the Sportster, if I wanted a sports looking bike I woudl buy a different brand. *no - I'm not a 'boomer' as I'm sub-40.
It looks like the logical progression of what i already have , 1987 fxr sport , vrscr streetrod then sportster s . I like my harley but I’m a shortarse so forwards are no use to me ,mid controls are best for my leg length and riding style .

Northernboy

12,642 posts

258 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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The history / heritage thing is interesting. I think the BMW twin has been around for the best part of 100 years, but it’s now sitting in one of the best all-round bikes available, so it’s definitely possible to keep a design’s DNA intact but to move with the times.

gareth_r

5,741 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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In the video H-D say that there will be "future models that will definitely tap into some of the more classic form factors of Sportster", which I assume is marketing speak for "we want to take sales from Triumph's modern classic range". I wonder what they'll steal from?

Perhaps the XLCR



or the XLCH



or the original 1957 XL




It's worked well for Triumph, although H-D would have to work on the engine's appearance to get the full fake air-cooled effect.

Edited by gareth_r on Thursday 15th July 01:48

Bob_Defly

3,700 posts

232 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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Good Fortnine video on Harley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeuXShFIgyc

BigGingerBob

1,701 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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I like Harleys.... Some Harleys anyway.
The new Fat Bob especially. I've never ridden one but I imagine that they have character in spades.

I understand the ridicule of the chaps and fake bike gang stuff but do you know what's equally tragic?
Race replicas and race leathers on the road pretending to be a cut price Rossi or Marquez.
It's the motorbike equivalent of driving a 555 liveried Impreza complete with fleece and hat.

RipTrip1

2,013 posts

109 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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The new Sportster is clearly a direct competitor to the Rebel 1100 but once again HD has priced themselves out of the market.

Merch131

814 posts

150 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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RipTrip1 said:
The new Sportster is clearly a direct competitor to the Rebel 1100 but once again HD has priced themselves out of the market.
No it isn't, its competition is the Indian Scout, the Sportster 'S' model is the top spec option in the future range, cheaper models are on the way, with more power, better suspension than the Scout for the same price. The HD official vid even shows a second model briefly, with twin shocks and chrome exhaust.

bimsb6

8,045 posts

222 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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RipTrip1 said:
The new Sportster is clearly a direct competitor to the Rebel 1100 but once again HD has priced themselves out of the market.
really ! That is hideous .

swanseaboydan

1,733 posts

164 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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I’ve had tons of bikes ( over 60 I think)but I get more fun hauling a tuned Harley about than I do riding a sports bike . Big twins are great off the lights too - mine is a tuned 1800 screaming eagle engine in a Dyna frame. You can enjoy Harley engines without going crazy speeds - I love them

Salted_Peanut

1,361 posts

55 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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Merch131 said:
the Sportster 'S' model is the top spec option in the future range
I had rarely looked twice at Harleys until I saw the Sportster S. 121hp (almost enough smile power), modern electronics (C-ABS, etc.) and a fairly svelte 228kg ready-to-ride. And I happen to like feet-forward riding – it’s an acquired taste, like dark chocolate.

While I haven't acquired a taste for fat front tyres, the ‘S’ makes HD look like it’s arrived in the 21st Century. Finally!

RipTrip1

2,013 posts

109 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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bimsb6 said:
really ! That is hideous .
Looks great IMO, just needs a better exhaust, really brings out the sound too, and can be a good tourer without the obscene weight and pathetic power associated with cruisers



Will outperform most Harley models

bimsb6

8,045 posts

222 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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Looks better in the 2nd pic , first one looks like some shed built thing featured in awol magazine , still wouldn’t give up my harleys for one and doubt it would out perform my streetrod .

gareth_r

5,741 posts

238 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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bogie said:
gareth_r said:
New Harley Sportster S >>>> https://youtube.com/watch?v=QCoQ2PjdLJA
It looks good for a cruiser with a bit of go in it. 120bhp and just 228Kg is ground breaking ....for Harley-Davidson smile

It could be the fastest accelerating model in the range now...well not far off the 150bhp Pan America.

I wonder what the differences are in the engine, and how easy it is to get 150bhp out it....it could almost be a "super naked" then wink
Different heads, according to the Cycle World video on YouTube.

RipTrip1

2,013 posts

109 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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bimsb6 said:
Looks better in the 2nd pic , first one looks like some shed built thing featured in awol magazine , still wouldn’t give up my harleys for one and doubt it would out perform my streetrod .
Street Rod: 47ft/lb at 4000, 750cc. 0 to 60 4.5 seconds
Rebel: 72ft/lb at 4750, 1100cc. 0 to 60 3.4 seconds

gareth_r

5,741 posts

238 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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RipTrip1 said:
bimsb6 said:
Looks better in the 2nd pic , first one looks like some shed built thing featured in awol magazine , still wouldn’t give up my harleys for one and doubt it would out perform my streetrod .
Street Rod: 47ft/lb at 4000, 750cc. 0 to 60 4.5 seconds
Rebel: 72ft/lb at 4750, 1100cc. 0 to 60 3.4 seconds
Wrong Street Rod, I suspect. smile

RipTrip1

2,013 posts

109 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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gareth_r said:
Wrong Street Rod, I suspect. smile
Those figures are for the latest Street Rod, all previous versions were even less powered. No replacement for displacement. The Rebel would feel like a rocket ship by comparison laugh

gareth_r

5,741 posts

238 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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RipTrip1 said:
gareth_r said:
Wrong Street Rod, I suspect. smile
Those figures are for the latest Street Rod, all previous versions were even less powered. No replacement for displacement. The Rebel would feel like a rocket ship by comparison laugh
Search for VRSCR Street Rod.

RipTrip1

2,013 posts

109 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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Oh you mean that gigantic muscle cruiser? Suzuki beat that a long time ago with the M109R



Not my cup of tea but if all you care about is massive power while insisting on sticking with the cruiser type riding position and looks, nothing else really compares to it.

DirtyHarley

385 posts

74 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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If the Sportster S doesnt have a "classic" version that at least looks right, my next bike may have to be some sort of softail/fatboy/ or even that new rebel .... even though it is somewhat "modern" looking, it still looks right in my eyes! Plus my first bigboy bike was an old 250 rebel so I have a bit of a nostalgic softspot for them!

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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RipTrip1 said:
Oh you mean that gigantic muscle cruiser? Suzuki beat that a long time ago with the M109R



Not my cup of tea but if all you care about is massive power while insisting on sticking with the cruiser type riding position and looks, nothing else really compares to it.
I'd never heard of that, its a heavy old beast!