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Rubin215 said:
jason61c said:
A shock for sunny sunday('fast') A+B road use is quite a tricky thing. Hagon, now matter how competent wouldn't be in the same league.
Utter b
ks.underwhelmist said:
Rubin215 said:
jason61c said:
A shock for sunny sunday('fast') A+B road use is quite a tricky thing. Hagon, now matter how competent wouldn't be in the same league.
Utter bks.They're actually a bloody good manufacturer who put a lot of time, effort and, most of all, experience into what they do.
Fair enough, they aren't fitted to any of the current MotoGP or SBK bikes, but be honest with yourself; if you actually feel you need that standard of suspension why the funk are you still posting here instead of bikergod.com...?
My money would be on a standard Hagon shock being more than capable for at least 95% of the heroes who post on here (BN excepted of course...).
I put a Hagon on my old ZZR years ago and was very impressed with it.
A point to consider is a properly set up Hagon (or any ‘budget’ shock) is better than a badly set up premium brand.
If you haven’t the knowledge to set the suspension up you won’t get value for money no matter how much it costs.
Rubin215 said:
underwhelmist said:
Rubin215 said:
jason61c said:
A shock for sunny sunday('fast') A+B road use is quite a tricky thing. Hagon, now matter how competent wouldn't be in the same league.
Utter bks.They're actually a bloody good manufacturer who put a lot of time, effort and, most of all, experience into what they do.
Fair enough, they aren't fitted to any of the current MotoGP or SBK bikes, but be honest with yourself; if you actually feel you need that standard of suspension why the funk are you still posting here instead of bikergod.com...?
My money would be on a standard Hagon shock being more than capable for at least 95% of the heroes who post on here (BN excepted of course...).
ks’?I thought that might be the case.
You post like you work there? It’s a heavy bike with a heavy rider with a demanding window of use.
jason61c said:
Rubin215 said:
underwhelmist said:
Rubin215 said:
jason61c said:
A shock for sunny sunday('fast') A+B road use is quite a tricky thing. Hagon, now matter how competent wouldn't be in the same league.
Utter bks.They're actually a bloody good manufacturer who put a lot of time, effort and, most of all, experience into what they do.
Fair enough, they aren't fitted to any of the current MotoGP or SBK bikes, but be honest with yourself; if you actually feel you need that standard of suspension why the funk are you still posting here instead of bikergod.com...?
My money would be on a standard Hagon shock being more than capable for at least 95% of the heroes who post on here (BN excepted of course...).
ks’?I thought that might be the case.
You post like you work there? It’s a heavy bike with a heavy rider with a demanding window of use.
Why don't you explain why a competent well set up Hagon shock wouldn't be good enough for you?
If you think ‘utter bks’ is an sensible reply on a discussion forum…
How many miles of testing and development have hagon done on the bike the shock is intended for? 3 of the list have done plenty…..
Have you ever had a car/bike with a proper set of dampers fitted?
Can the hagon sales rep on here answer why it’s the only answer?
ks’ is an sensible reply on a discussion forum…How many miles of testing and development have hagon done on the bike the shock is intended for? 3 of the list have done plenty…..
Have you ever had a car/bike with a proper set of dampers fitted?
Can the hagon sales rep on here answer why it’s the only answer?
jason61c said:
If you think ‘utter bks’ is an sensible reply on a discussion forum…
How many miles of testing and development have hagon done on the bike the shock is intended for? 3 of the list have done plenty…..
Have you ever had a car/bike with a proper set of dampers fitted?
Can the hagon sales rep on here answer why it’s the only answer?
All good questions, but it dont explain why Hagon wouldn't be suitable for you. ks’ is an sensible reply on a discussion forum…How many miles of testing and development have hagon done on the bike the shock is intended for? 3 of the list have done plenty…..
Have you ever had a car/bike with a proper set of dampers fitted?
Can the hagon sales rep on here answer why it’s the only answer?
I've got a Hagon on the back on my Pan European, all set up with the correct spring rate etc for 2 up with luggage..
The shock itself is OK... quality is OK, on the road it's better than OE.. so yeah.. it's OK..
Their customer service and attitude however is a different matter.. really unprofessional and acted like they were doing me a favour by selling me something.
Would never use them again on that basis.
The shock itself is OK... quality is OK, on the road it's better than OE.. so yeah.. it's OK..
Their customer service and attitude however is a different matter.. really unprofessional and acted like they were doing me a favour by selling me something.
Would never use them again on that basis.
This looks like one of those classic threads where the OP asks for advice / ideas but has already made up his mind.
OP for what it's worth I have Ohlins on mine, fitted and set up by Mark Hammond https://www.mhracing.com/about. It transformed the bike - bumps would previously kick me out of the saddle but its now compliant, inspires far more confidence and frankly is far more comfortable to ride.
OP for what it's worth I have Ohlins on mine, fitted and set up by Mark Hammond https://www.mhracing.com/about. It transformed the bike - bumps would previously kick me out of the saddle but its now compliant, inspires far more confidence and frankly is far more comfortable to ride.
Wasno6 said:
This looks like one of those classic threads where the OP asks for advice / ideas but has already made up his mind.
OP for what it's worth I have Ohlins on mine, fitted and set up by Mark Hammond https://www.mhracing.com/about. It transformed the bike - bumps would previously kick me out of the saddle but its now compliant, inspires far more confidence and frankly is far more comfortable to ride.
No this is one of those classic threads where the OP has asked, he's just ruled out hagon as an option, a classic thread where the OP has asked one or two of the posters for details to substantiate their comments, which hasn't happened.OP for what it's worth I have Ohlins on mine, fitted and set up by Mark Hammond https://www.mhracing.com/about. It transformed the bike - bumps would previously kick me out of the saddle but its now compliant, inspires far more confidence and frankly is far more comfortable to ride.
A classic thread indeed
To be fair you have dismissed Hagon out of hand with no reasoning and when you asked for reasons in favour of Hagon, several posters have pointed out that Hagon are not just a budget brand and could well meet your requirements. If you've ruled out Hagon (as you say) I, and I'm sure others, would be interested in your reasons.
jason61c said:
Wasno6 said:
This looks like one of those classic threads where the OP asks for advice / ideas but has already made up his mind.
OP for what it's worth I have Ohlins on mine, fitted and set up by Mark Hammond https://www.mhracing.com/about. It transformed the bike - bumps would previously kick me out of the saddle but its now compliant, inspires far more confidence and frankly is far more comfortable to ride.
No this is one of those classic threads where the OP has asked, he's just ruled out hagon as an option, a classic thread where the OP has asked one or two of the posters for details to substantiate their comments, which hasn't happened.OP for what it's worth I have Ohlins on mine, fitted and set up by Mark Hammond https://www.mhracing.com/about. It transformed the bike - bumps would previously kick me out of the saddle but its now compliant, inspires far more confidence and frankly is far more comfortable to ride.
A classic thread indeed
You obviously want Mupo which is fair enough, it's your money and your bike but...
You asked about Ohlis and immediately discounted them apparently due to the casting marks...
Everything else is shot down on the basis that you area big guy on a heavy bike going for fast A+B rides...
On an R9T... forgive me..
So buy the Mupo, you'll love it and don't need validation from the unwashed masses here
Steve Bass said:
jason61c said:
Wasno6 said:
This looks like one of those classic threads where the OP asks for advice / ideas but has already made up his mind.
OP for what it's worth I have Ohlins on mine, fitted and set up by Mark Hammond https://www.mhracing.com/about. It transformed the bike - bumps would previously kick me out of the saddle but its now compliant, inspires far more confidence and frankly is far more comfortable to ride.
No this is one of those classic threads where the OP has asked, he's just ruled out hagon as an option, a classic thread where the OP has asked one or two of the posters for details to substantiate their comments, which hasn't happened.OP for what it's worth I have Ohlins on mine, fitted and set up by Mark Hammond https://www.mhracing.com/about. It transformed the bike - bumps would previously kick me out of the saddle but its now compliant, inspires far more confidence and frankly is far more comfortable to ride.
A classic thread indeed
You obviously want Mupo which is fair enough, it's your money and your bike but...
You asked about Ohlis and immediately discounted them apparently due to the casting marks...
Everything else is shot down on the basis that you area big guy on a heavy bike going for fast A+B rides...
On an R9T... forgive me..
So buy the Mupo, you'll love it and don't need validation from the unwashed masses here
it’s quicker than my 749r and other bikes on that sort of stuff.I’d actually like a Wilbers.
For the ohlins, I pointed out why in this application I’m not keen.
jason61c said:
The beemer can get a wriggle on B roads it’s quicker than my 749r and other bikes on that sort of stuff.
I’d actually like a Wilbers.
For the ohlins, I pointed out why in this application I’m not keen.
But I'm sure you know that you specifically mentioned Ohlins in your OP...only to then discount it due to your perception of the quality? OK, never mind.... it’s quicker than my 749r and other bikes on that sort of stuff.I’d actually like a Wilbers.
For the ohlins, I pointed out why in this application I’m not keen.
You could have specifically stated "not Ohlins because xxxxx" or " brand yyyy because of..."
Anyhooo......
For my $$$, if performance was the primary objective, I'd be chatting with the guys at KTech.....
But in all honesty, on the road, you're not going to out ride any of the moderately good units.. as long as the spring and valving is to your weight...(ohlins don't do bespoke valving out of the box so I would discount them on that basis alone although you didn't inform us of your heft from the get go
).. so it's really which one you like the look of... ride and enjoy Edited by Steve Bass on Monday 21st June 14:13
Steve Bass said:
But I'm sure you know that you specifically mentioned Ohlins in your OP...only to then discount it due to your perception of the quality? OK, never mind....
You could have specifically stated "not Ohlins because xxxxx" or " brand yyyy because of..."
Anyhooo......
<b>For my $$$, if performance was the primary objective, I'd be chatting with the guys at KTech.....</b>
But in all honesty, on the road, you're not going to out ride any of the moderately good units.. as long as the spring and valving is to your weight...(ohlins don't do bespoke valving out of the box so I would discount them on that basis alone although you didn't inform us of your heft from the get go ).. so it's really which one you like the look of... ride and enjoy
You do need quite a lot of $$$ for KTech though Steve...You could have specifically stated "not Ohlins because xxxxx" or " brand yyyy because of..."
Anyhooo......
<b>For my $$$, if performance was the primary objective, I'd be chatting with the guys at KTech.....</b>
But in all honesty, on the road, you're not going to out ride any of the moderately good units.. as long as the spring and valving is to your weight...(ohlins don't do bespoke valving out of the box so I would discount them on that basis alone although you didn't inform us of your heft from the get go
).. so it's really which one you like the look of... ride and enjoy Edited by Steve Bass on Monday 21st June 14:13
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