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jason61c said:
Wasno6 said:
This looks like one of those classic threads where the OP asks for advice / ideas but has already made up his mind.
OP for what it's worth I have Ohlins on mine, fitted and set up by Mark Hammond https://www.mhracing.com/about. It transformed the bike - bumps would previously kick me out of the saddle but its now compliant, inspires far more confidence and frankly is far more comfortable to ride.
No this is one of those classic threads where the OP has asked, he's just ruled out hagon as an option, a classic thread where the OP has asked one or two of the posters for details to substantiate their comments, which hasn't happened.OP for what it's worth I have Ohlins on mine, fitted and set up by Mark Hammond https://www.mhracing.com/about. It transformed the bike - bumps would previously kick me out of the saddle but its now compliant, inspires far more confidence and frankly is far more comfortable to ride.
A classic thread indeed
Anyone bought anything from Shock Factory since Brexit? Conscious that the shock for my bike (M-Shock) is £300, then theres potentially import duties, and then VAT on top of it, so it's unclear how much in total it will be.
On the website it just says VAT and the DPD fee of a fiver, but not sure if thats strictly true or not?
On the website it just says VAT and the DPD fee of a fiver, but not sure if thats strictly true or not?
snagzie said:
Anyone bought anything from Shock Factory since Brexit? Conscious that the shock for my bike (M-Shock) is £300, then theres potentially import duties, and then VAT on top of it, so it's unclear how much in total it will be.
On the website it just says VAT and the DPD fee of a fiver, but not sure if thats strictly true or not?
They quoted the double adjustable one £430+vat. On the website it just says VAT and the DPD fee of a fiver, but not sure if thats strictly true or not?
So Cira £520 all in.
I'd rather have a YSS shock than a Shock Factory unit - both their entry level shocks are emulsion, unlike the K-Tech and Nitron (even their R1) which use separator pistons. The main advantage of the separator pistons is that they are more resilient to fade and cavitation, which can be an issue with the cheaper emulsion shocks when they're worked hard.
I don't know of anyone that rebuilds Shock Factory shocks here in the UK (although I'm sure they exist) and I'm not sure how readily available parts are, unlike YSS where everything is available off the shelf.
YSS are cheaper too.
I don't know of anyone that rebuilds Shock Factory shocks here in the UK (although I'm sure they exist) and I'm not sure how readily available parts are, unlike YSS where everything is available off the shelf.
YSS are cheaper too.
I've gone Maxton RT10 rear and modified cartridges on my 'Blade - haven't tested them out on the road yet as I'm just putting the bike together again after a mini overhaul/cleanup over winter. Service from them was second to none, all made in house and bespoke.
I wouldn't just buy a bolt on unit for a bike if it were me - I'd want it to be built to spec/needs. I don't think the R9T is known for having particularly bad stock suspension, so why bother putting something on that isn't to YOUR spec?
I wouldn't just buy a bolt on unit for a bike if it were me - I'd want it to be built to spec/needs. I don't think the R9T is known for having particularly bad stock suspension, so why bother putting something on that isn't to YOUR spec?
Merch131 said:
jason61c said:
If it was a £500 commuter I’d fit a hagon.
Hagon make more than cheap commuter shocks.. stainless body, stainless spring, adjustable pre load and 10 way adjustable damping. Mine (twin shock) were approx £400 built to my spec.
bgunn said:
I've gone Maxton RT10 rear and modified cartridges on my 'Blade - haven't tested them out on the road yet as I'm just putting the bike together again after a mini overhaul/cleanup over winter. Service from them was second to none, all made in house and bespoke.
I wouldn't just buy a bolt on unit for a bike if it were me - I'd want it to be built to spec/needs. I don't think the R9T is known for having particularly bad stock suspension, so why bother putting something on that isn't to YOUR spec?
I agree. OP - why don't you like Nitron? Five year warranty, built to your spec, various different specs/models etc...I wouldn't just buy a bolt on unit for a bike if it were me - I'd want it to be built to spec/needs. I don't think the R9T is known for having particularly bad stock suspension, so why bother putting something on that isn't to YOUR spec?
DuckSauce said:
Does anyone have any experience of YSS on an MT09? I'm not a track day rider and very average at best, just getting fed up of the pogo stick shock at the moment.
I think a kTech shock would be wasted on me and with the money saved, I could do the front too
Very popular shocks for the MT-09 but, if it was mine, I'd be looking at the Nitron R1, the K-Tech Razor Lite or the K-Tech Razor-R, if you can stretch your budget. I think a kTech shock would be wasted on me and with the money saved, I could do the front too
To be honest though, the standard MT shocks are that poor, anything you replace it with will be far superior.
Ended up buying a KTech Razor R for my new GSXS1000F. Ended up being the most reasonable priced non-emulsion shock with remote adjuster and good reviews.
Did consider a Nitron NTR1 and Maxton NR4 (not remote adjuster but separate pistons for gas and oil) but the KTech won that race due to the similar price.
Will be a few weeks before i get it and fit it though.
Did consider a Nitron NTR1 and Maxton NR4 (not remote adjuster but separate pistons for gas and oil) but the KTech won that race due to the similar price.
Will be a few weeks before i get it and fit it though.
snagzie said:
Ended up buying a KTech Razor R for my new GSXS1000F. Ended up being the most reasonable priced non-emulsion shock with remote adjuster and good reviews.
Did consider a Nitron NTR1 and Maxton NR4 (not remote adjuster but separate pistons for gas and oil) but the KTech won that race due to the similar price.
Will be a few weeks before i get it and fit it though.
Great choice, you'll be happy with it once fitted. The GSX-S is another one of those bikes with poor suspension as standard. Your next upgrade should be a K-Tech fork piston kit with a set of linear springs to match your weight, if you can't stretch to a full cartridge kit Did consider a Nitron NTR1 and Maxton NR4 (not remote adjuster but separate pistons for gas and oil) but the KTech won that race due to the similar price.
Will be a few weeks before i get it and fit it though.
bgunn said:
I've gone Maxton RT10 rear and modified cartridges on my 'Blade - haven't tested them out on the road yet as I'm just putting the bike together again after a mini overhaul/cleanup over winter. Service from them was second to none, all made in house and bespoke.
I wouldn't just buy a bolt on unit for a bike if it were me - I'd want it to be built to spec/needs. I don't think the R9T is known for having particularly bad stock suspension, so why bother putting something on that isn't to YOUR spec?
I went with the nr4 rear and gp30 cartridges on my monster, valved and sprung for weight and use. I wouldn't just buy a bolt on unit for a bike if it were me - I'd want it to be built to spec/needs. I don't think the R9T is known for having particularly bad stock suspension, so why bother putting something on that isn't to YOUR spec?
The difference from stock is very stark, it has to be the best upgrade I’ve made (to any road or race car/bike I’ve owned) in terms of positive benefit. Ride is supple, controlled and the grip feel is superb. Made a huge difference to my riding confidence.
bgunn said:
I've gone Maxton RT10 rear and modified cartridges on my 'Blade - haven't tested them out on the road yet as I'm just putting the bike together again after a mini overhaul/cleanup over winter. Service from them was second to none, all made in house and bespoke.
I wouldn't just buy a bolt on unit for a bike if it were me - I'd want it to be built to spec/needs. I don't think the R9T is known for having particularly bad stock suspension, so why bother putting something on that isn't to YOUR spec?
Footnote to this is I've ridden the bike now, and it's leagues better than it was. Way way better than my ability, which lets me concentrate on riding it. I wouldn't just buy a bolt on unit for a bike if it were me - I'd want it to be built to spec/needs. I don't think the R9T is known for having particularly bad stock suspension, so why bother putting something on that isn't to YOUR spec?
The springing is right, for a start, so the geometry of the bike is as it should be because it's sitting right on the road, the headstock is at the right angle. Then, because the suspension is in the right place in its travel, you're not bottoming or topping out, which means the tyres do what you expect. And because the damping valving has been set up properly to match the spring rates, you're not at one end of the adjuster range (usually full stiff on rebound on a lot of standard bikes!) to get it to ride and handle right.
Don't buy into this off the shelf thing with a posh brand, you pay for a custom setup because it's custom, it suits what you're doing with the bike.
TheOversteerLever said:
snagzie said:
Ended up buying a KTech Razor R for my new GSXS1000F. Ended up being the most reasonable priced non-emulsion shock with remote adjuster and good reviews.
Did consider a Nitron NTR1 and Maxton NR4 (not remote adjuster but separate pistons for gas and oil) but the KTech won that race due to the similar price.
Will be a few weeks before i get it and fit it though.
Great choice, you'll be happy with it once fitted. The GSX-S is another one of those bikes with poor suspension as standard. Your next upgrade should be a K-Tech fork piston kit with a set of linear springs to match your weight, if you can't stretch to a full cartridge kit Did consider a Nitron NTR1 and Maxton NR4 (not remote adjuster but separate pistons for gas and oil) but the KTech won that race due to the similar price.
Will be a few weeks before i get it and fit it though.
I don't think they do a full piston kit for this bike (looking at brook suspension site), so gonna go with this (which is what I think you're referring to) with springs and compression adjusters + fitting (unless my local garage can fit it for me?):
https://www.brooksuspension.co.uk/fork-internals/k...
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