KTM Superduke GT
Discussion
GriffoDP said:
I just cleaned mine after a while sat in my humidity controlled garage :P
Started it up afterwards to see if i'd drowned any electrics and one forgets how great it sounds when generally it's only started when earplugs are already in!
I'm usually sat on my bike to go, fire it up and realise my ear plugs aren't in..Started it up afterwards to see if i'd drowned any electrics and one forgets how great it sounds when generally it's only started when earplugs are already in!
Chicken Chaser said:
Are these just as loud on standard cans? My old 1050 was pretty loud as standard, not the kind of thing you'd regularly inflict on the neighbours at 3am.
Not that loud standard, but still sound good. I just didn't like the look of the standard can.I got an arrow which has a removable baffle, but I put it back in when I went decat.
Interesting time for a thread resurrection - I finally test rode one last week when I had time off work.
Effortless speed. Great punch from the engine but handled really well also.
Seating position was comfortable on a short blast, especially the reach to the bars, leg triangle was fine but might be more of an issue on longer rides.
Screen was fine up to 80 but wind blast was more noticeable from there up.
I also test rode a BMW XR and it felt tame by comparison. Refined, smooth, fast but tame....
I keep on going back and forth on whether to get a higher mileage mk2 vs a mk1. (gambling that they are capable of doing higher mileage without falling to bits...)
Ultimately I need to get off the pot and make a decision!
Effortless speed. Great punch from the engine but handled really well also.
Seating position was comfortable on a short blast, especially the reach to the bars, leg triangle was fine but might be more of an issue on longer rides.
Screen was fine up to 80 but wind blast was more noticeable from there up.
I also test rode a BMW XR and it felt tame by comparison. Refined, smooth, fast but tame....
I keep on going back and forth on whether to get a higher mileage mk2 vs a mk1. (gambling that they are capable of doing higher mileage without falling to bits...)
Ultimately I need to get off the pot and make a decision!
HughiusMaximus said:
Interesting time for a thread resurrection - I finally test rode one last week when I had time off work.
Effortless speed. Great punch from the engine but handled really well also.
Seating position was comfortable on a short blast, especially the reach to the bars, leg triangle was fine but might be more of an issue on longer rides.
Screen was fine up to 80 but wind blast was more noticeable from there up.
I also test rode a BMW XR and it felt tame by comparison. Refined, smooth, fast but tame....
I keep on going back and forth on whether to get a higher mileage mk2 vs a mk1. (gambling that they are capable of doing higher mileage without falling to bits...)
Ultimately I need to get off the pot and make a decision!
Surely the TFT on the mk2 is a no brainer and the lights are proper LED/DRL. The switchgear is improved too with the cruise control in the right place, plus there's a few engine updates.Effortless speed. Great punch from the engine but handled really well also.
Seating position was comfortable on a short blast, especially the reach to the bars, leg triangle was fine but might be more of an issue on longer rides.
Screen was fine up to 80 but wind blast was more noticeable from there up.
I also test rode a BMW XR and it felt tame by comparison. Refined, smooth, fast but tame....
I keep on going back and forth on whether to get a higher mileage mk2 vs a mk1. (gambling that they are capable of doing higher mileage without falling to bits...)
Ultimately I need to get off the pot and make a decision!
HughiusMaximus said:
Interesting time for a thread resurrection - I finally test rode one last week when I had time off work.
Effortless speed. Great punch from the engine but handled really well also.
Seating position was comfortable on a short blast, especially the reach to the bars, leg triangle was fine but might be more of an issue on longer rides.
Screen was fine up to 80 but wind blast was more noticeable from there up.
I also test rode a BMW XR and it felt tame by comparison. Refined, smooth, fast but tame....
I keep on going back and forth on whether to get a higher mileage mk2 vs a mk1. (gambling that they are capable of doing higher mileage without falling to bits...)
Ultimately I need to get off the pot and make a decision!
I’m on a few ktm pages/forums and there are some seriously high mileage LC8’s out there. Effortless speed. Great punch from the engine but handled really well also.
Seating position was comfortable on a short blast, especially the reach to the bars, leg triangle was fine but might be more of an issue on longer rides.
Screen was fine up to 80 but wind blast was more noticeable from there up.
I also test rode a BMW XR and it felt tame by comparison. Refined, smooth, fast but tame....
I keep on going back and forth on whether to get a higher mileage mk2 vs a mk1. (gambling that they are capable of doing higher mileage without falling to bits...)
Ultimately I need to get off the pot and make a decision!
HughiusMaximus said:
I have heard the engines are solid, it's more the ancillaries I'm more worried.
To be fair, that may be more from the reporting of electronic glitches than anything more concrete
For my part the only time I've had on screen errors has been when the battery has been sat for a couple of weeks without being on charge.To be fair, that may be more from the reporting of electronic glitches than anything more concrete
Other than that I've had more trouble - ie necessitating an actual dealer visit - from a slow oil leak around some cable exits from the engine somewhere (I dunno, they fixed it, the end) and currently the oil temperature sensor is reading low. The latter is apparently well known. I forget if there's a newer sensor that doesn't have a well known issue, we'll see when it gets fixed.
Argh I'm close to bottling it on the 2017 with 14500 miles.
As others mentioned, I'm reasonably confident the engine will be fine, its all the electrics. There is a KTM dealer near me (Wigan) but they're very new to this brand (usually Suzuki only).
Also concerned about the suspension, not generally a fan of fancy electric suspension for when you just want to get it serviced. Plus I've heard some (interney) tales of it generally being the worst part of the bike.
Its not like you can just change the shock easily, nor the fork internals....
As others mentioned, I'm reasonably confident the engine will be fine, its all the electrics. There is a KTM dealer near me (Wigan) but they're very new to this brand (usually Suzuki only).
Also concerned about the suspension, not generally a fan of fancy electric suspension for when you just want to get it serviced. Plus I've heard some (interney) tales of it generally being the worst part of the bike.
Its not like you can just change the shock easily, nor the fork internals....
snagzie said:
Argh I'm close to bottling it on the 2017 with 14500 miles.
As others mentioned, I'm reasonably confident the engine will be fine, its all the electrics. There is a KTM dealer near me (Wigan) but they're very new to this brand (usually Suzuki only).
Also concerned about the suspension, not generally a fan of fancy electric suspension for when you just want to get it serviced. Plus I've heard some (interney) tales of it generally being the worst part of the bike.
Its not like you can just change the shock easily, nor the fork internals....
My 2018 GT which I think is the same as the 2017 model has been great, now on 23,000 miles. Only issue has been me riding off when the rear preload motor was running, which it says not to do in the manual, needed a dealer visit to reset the error. As others mentioned, I'm reasonably confident the engine will be fine, its all the electrics. There is a KTM dealer near me (Wigan) but they're very new to this brand (usually Suzuki only).
Also concerned about the suspension, not generally a fan of fancy electric suspension for when you just want to get it serviced. Plus I've heard some (interney) tales of it generally being the worst part of the bike.
Its not like you can just change the shock easily, nor the fork internals....
Get it ! They are incredible fun and much more reliable than t’ Internet would have you believe.
GriffoDP said:
HughiusMaximus said:
I have heard the engines are solid, it's more the ancillaries I'm more worried.
To be fair, that may be more from the reporting of electronic glitches than anything more concrete
For my part the only time I've had on screen errors has been when the battery has been sat for a couple of weeks without being on charge.To be fair, that may be more from the reporting of electronic glitches than anything more concrete
Other than that I've had more trouble - ie necessitating an actual dealer visit - from a slow oil leak around some cable exits from the engine somewhere (I dunno, they fixed it, the end) and currently the oil temperature sensor is reading low. The latter is apparently well known. I forget if there's a newer sensor that doesn't have a well known issue, we'll see when it gets fixed.
Fuel pipe split (I think from poor reinstallation)
Cam solenoid, so wouldn't rev properly
Oil temp sensor
Tyre fitter broke the TPS, easy to do apparently
Mods
Exhaust Servo Eliminator
Bodis decat (can keep heat shields)
Arrow can
Emissions system delete
O2 sensor delete
Canister delete
P3 tuning remap
Removed rear pegs and fitted an exhaust hanger
Damn it why did you have to list fun mods! :P I'd pretty much managed to forget wanting half (most) of those!
Do you/anyone have the Track pack thing? It's the one thing not on mine, and although I doubt it'll be going on track, I'm curious to try it. But then looking at your list, a few of those come in significantly cheaper than the pointless £360 to unlock it. My main desire is to see how the more aggressive throttle is, and whether I can discern the variable traction control.
Do you/anyone have the Track pack thing? It's the one thing not on mine, and although I doubt it'll be going on track, I'm curious to try it. But then looking at your list, a few of those come in significantly cheaper than the pointless £360 to unlock it. My main desire is to see how the more aggressive throttle is, and whether I can discern the variable traction control.
GriffoDP said:
Damn it why did you have to list fun mods! :P I'd pretty much managed to forget wanting half (most) of those!
Do you/anyone have the Track pack thing? It's the one thing not on mine, and although I doubt it'll be going on track, I'm curious to try it. But then looking at your list, a few of those come in significantly cheaper than the pointless £360 to unlock it. My main desire is to see how the more aggressive throttle is, and whether I can discern the variable traction control.
I haven't, though I might do, it's a bit pricey for the privilege of turning stuff off, it really annoys me that they charge for upgrades already on the bike.Do you/anyone have the Track pack thing? It's the one thing not on mine, and although I doubt it'll be going on track, I'm curious to try it. But then looking at your list, a few of those come in significantly cheaper than the pointless £360 to unlock it. My main desire is to see how the more aggressive throttle is, and whether I can discern the variable traction control.
I negotiated with the dealer to turn on the heated seat before I bought one, because some will charge you an extra £20 or whatever once you realise it needs enabling.
I did get MSR though, the engine drag can virtually lock the back wheel with those dinner plates going up and down. That really helped.
Niponeoff said:
it really annoys me that they charge for upgrades already on the bike.
I negotiated with the dealer to turn on the heated seat before I bought one.
AgreedI negotiated with the dealer to turn on the heated seat before I bought one.
I wanted to buy a '13 1190 from a KTM main dealer - it's a nice bike with FSH but the cornering ABS has never been enabled (14 onwards it was std) many Dealers did it for free with a main service
I enquired about buying it, I was happy to pay full price but they wanted an additional £380 to turn it on - it's cost them the sale
I disagree about the costs for enabling things. Nowt wrong with it if its the same price or cheaper than a black box being added to the bike.
Their perspective I assume is that its cheaper to fit to all than to some. The R&D and software costs is what you're paying for, and they have to do less to make that feature available.
Fully expect to be shot down by a load of grumpy old men but its 2023 and its better for everyone this way. It's not a personal attack from the dealer ffs.... maybe those would feel better if the dealer put some kind of placebo black box on to make them feel better :'D
edit: getting my popcorn out
Their perspective I assume is that its cheaper to fit to all than to some. The R&D and software costs is what you're paying for, and they have to do less to make that feature available.
Fully expect to be shot down by a load of grumpy old men but its 2023 and its better for everyone this way. It's not a personal attack from the dealer ffs.... maybe those would feel better if the dealer put some kind of placebo black box on to make them feel better :'D
edit: getting my popcorn out
Edited by snagzie on Wednesday 12th April 19:36
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