KTM Superduke GT
Discussion
snagzie said:
I disagree about the costs for enabling things. Nowt wrong with it if its the same price or cheaper than a black box being added to the bike.
Their perspective I assume is that its cheaper to fit to all than to some. The R&D and software costs is what you're paying for, and they have to do less to make that feature available.
Fully expect to be shot down by a load of grumpy old men but its 2023 and its better for everyone this way. It's not a personal attack from the dealer ffs.... maybe those would feel better if the dealer put some kind of placebo black box on to make them feel better :'D
edit: getting my popcorn out
We don't all have to agree Their perspective I assume is that its cheaper to fit to all than to some. The R&D and software costs is what you're paying for, and they have to do less to make that feature available.
Fully expect to be shot down by a load of grumpy old men but its 2023 and its better for everyone this way. It's not a personal attack from the dealer ffs.... maybe those would feel better if the dealer put some kind of placebo black box on to make them feel better :'D
edit: getting my popcorn out
Edited by snagzie on Wednesday 12th April 19:36
Personally as a Dealer I will replace old / wrong tyres and road test before sale because I want to sell a safe bike
To ask £380 more to enable a safety feature on a bike they are selling - personally I disagree with
It also meant that it was a similar price to a 14 plate which had the feature as standard
KTMsm said:
snagzie said:
I disagree about the costs for enabling things. Nowt wrong with it if its the same price or cheaper than a black box being added to the bike.
Their perspective I assume is that its cheaper to fit to all than to some. The R&D and software costs is what you're paying for, and they have to do less to make that feature available.
Fully expect to be shot down by a load of grumpy old men but its 2023 and its better for everyone this way. It's not a personal attack from the dealer ffs.... maybe those would feel better if the dealer put some kind of placebo black box on to make them feel better :'D
edit: getting my popcorn out
We don't all have to agree Their perspective I assume is that its cheaper to fit to all than to some. The R&D and software costs is what you're paying for, and they have to do less to make that feature available.
Fully expect to be shot down by a load of grumpy old men but its 2023 and its better for everyone this way. It's not a personal attack from the dealer ffs.... maybe those would feel better if the dealer put some kind of placebo black box on to make them feel better :'D
edit: getting my popcorn out
Edited by snagzie on Wednesday 12th April 19:36
Personally as a Dealer I will replace old / wrong tyres and road test before sale because I want to sell a safe bike
To ask £380 more to enable a safety feature on a bike they are selling - personally I disagree with
It also meant that it was a similar price to a 14 plate which had the feature as standard
Safety is one thing yes, track packs another. Didn't think of that aspect.
snagzie said:
Not GT related, and thought I'd find something on BB ref the new KTM SMT (supposedly 890). 24th April is the big reveal date.
Teaser ride up pikes peak here:
Might hold off buying that GT for a bit...
Some more of Chris Fillmore's riding:Teaser ride up pikes peak here:
Might hold off buying that GT for a bit...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhoBCOG8Bk8
Niponeoff said:
graham22 said:
So you bought a GT and turned it into an R.
In the interests of closure... I finally got off the pot and picked up a 2017 Superduke GT.
Just under 18,000 miles with the big service already done.
Paid £6.3k with luggage and an old satnav thrown in which all in all feels like a decent deal.
I couldnt justify the extra money for a gen 2 when it is effectively the same bike with a slightly tweaked engine, a down quickshifter and a fancier screen when this is a second bike to compliment the sports bike that I intend on keeping (for now anyway...).
Looking forward to putting some miles on it now!
Just under 18,000 miles with the big service already done.
Paid £6.3k with luggage and an old satnav thrown in which all in all feels like a decent deal.
I couldnt justify the extra money for a gen 2 when it is effectively the same bike with a slightly tweaked engine, a down quickshifter and a fancier screen when this is a second bike to compliment the sports bike that I intend on keeping (for now anyway...).
Looking forward to putting some miles on it now!
I picked up a "high miles" (43k) snotter towards the end of summer. It was well used and fairly unloved SD GT that had not seen the business end of a hosepipe for a while.
It rode well, however the front brakes were VERY spongy, and they would only bite near the bar - but subsequent pulls were better, but a few seconds later would be spongy again. The clutch pull was weird too. I tried bleeding the brakes, and it made them no better, and I put mineral oil in the clutch which was a disaster (note to self, KTM moved to DOT on the more recent stuff). Anyways, well, I've gone at it all again. Rebuilt the brakes, new clutch piston, etc. All that is documented above.
This is how much the rubber swelled
Rebuilt the brakes
The pistons were VERY gunked up
One of the oil sieve bolts was stripped
Some dremel work later - glad I got in there
Got rid of the giant cat and replaced with a straight link pipe
Tired and gross
All new
There is loads and loads more - took around 2 weeks to go through, and I've got a small list of things to do in winter (wheels, rear shock, fork oils etc).
I got it for 3900, and at this point I've spent arounf £1000 on it. Although hours of elbow grease
I think its turned out well
And it rides beautifully. Feels nearly new now, clutch and brakes superb, only thing that dates it a little is some scratches over the speed/tacho
Took it to the Ardennes, Lux and back - flawless.
It rode well, however the front brakes were VERY spongy, and they would only bite near the bar - but subsequent pulls were better, but a few seconds later would be spongy again. The clutch pull was weird too. I tried bleeding the brakes, and it made them no better, and I put mineral oil in the clutch which was a disaster (note to self, KTM moved to DOT on the more recent stuff). Anyways, well, I've gone at it all again. Rebuilt the brakes, new clutch piston, etc. All that is documented above.
This is how much the rubber swelled
Rebuilt the brakes
The pistons were VERY gunked up
One of the oil sieve bolts was stripped
Some dremel work later - glad I got in there
Got rid of the giant cat and replaced with a straight link pipe
Tired and gross
All new
There is loads and loads more - took around 2 weeks to go through, and I've got a small list of things to do in winter (wheels, rear shock, fork oils etc).
I got it for 3900, and at this point I've spent arounf £1000 on it. Although hours of elbow grease
I think its turned out well
And it rides beautifully. Feels nearly new now, clutch and brakes superb, only thing that dates it a little is some scratches over the speed/tacho
Took it to the Ardennes, Lux and back - flawless.
Biker9090 said:
How's the engine/frame paint etc holding up?
Frame is fine. Rear swing arm has some rubbing and thus some paint lifting from under the rear wheel hugger - not visible unless you take it off. The clutch side cover has a little paint flaking from the bottom/front of the motor - but I've bought a replacement on ebay for £90 - not fitted yet.Considering the lack of care of the bike, I think its held up pretty well actually.
The only thing really cosmetically letting it down is the rear shock - that's got some rust/paint flaking on it. Also £90-ish to replace.
HughiusMaximus said:
Niponeoff said:
I think you can get the gen2 suspension software upgrade on the gen1.
Enjoy the bike!
Out of curiosity, has anyone had the gen 1 to gen 2 suspension update and can speak to differences please?Enjoy the bike!
Edited by Niponeoff on Wednesday 1st November 09:30
I had it applied last year by Jim Aim, free with a service.
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