Speed Triple 1200 RS issues

Speed Triple 1200 RS issues

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Esceptico

7,554 posts

110 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Seems very odd to me too. If it were going to let go then you would think maybe mid curve,
not at the beginning.

A few years back I got a Panigale V4. I think it was about a month later ie early March. Did a long ride up to Norwich then back via Suffolk. Bloody awful weather for most of the journey with misty rain and damp or wet roads. No problems at all despite st weather, new tyres, unfamiliar bike and most powerful bike I had ridden. Was a really fun ride despite the conditions.

Without understanding why I had crashed, I’m not sure I would be confident in riding the same bike again (the times I have crashed it wasn’t the bike’s fault!)

Fingers crossed on the insurance claim. Are you hoping it will be repairable or would you want it to be written off?

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,694 posts

66 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Bad luck with both brand new Street Triples, personally I think I'd be moving on to something else.

Biker 1

7,758 posts

120 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Holy st!!!
I've been following this thread & now this!!!
You must be totally gutted - I can't imagine a crappier outcome, especially given all the hassle with the original bike...
I hope you manage to sort this out ASAP.

trickywoo

11,891 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Biker 1 said:
I can't imagine a crappier outcome.
Looking on the bright side sliding across the opposite side of the road into Armco and walking away isn’t that bad a result.

MrGman

1,588 posts

207 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Looking at the pictures of the road, it looks to me that there’s definitely something missing from the equation, it looks like you dropped it before even committing to the turn.


bogie

16,406 posts

273 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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trickywoo said:
Biker 1 said:
I can't imagine a crappier outcome.
Looking on the bright side sliding across the opposite side of the road into Armco and walking away isn’t that bad a result.
Yes, lucky that the conditions were not so good that you felt confident to go faster.

5 years ago I witnessed a fellow rider die in front of me after hitting armco like that on a kink in the road at dual carriageway speed. A small slip/twitch at the rear became a tank slapper, and he lost control of his KTM and died on impact frown

Every time you walk away from a bike accident with road furniture around, you are lucky.

Jazoli

9,116 posts

251 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Bob_Defly said:
If those are brand new tyres with that 'special' coating, it won't take much to slip on a wet road.
This is where my money is. Especially in this weather, they’d want a few heat cycles in them to get rid of that (I’ve been advised).
And mine, really unlucky OP, I really don't understand why Triumph (especially) do this and release a predominantly road bike with track tyres on, they are not suitable for a British winter, or low temperatures, as previously mentioned above if you'd had a set of Road 5/6's on the bike would be in your garage unmarked and uncrashed.

outnumbered

4,100 posts

235 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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It looks very odd, like you say, it’s gone before the corner really starts. You mentioned being in 5th, do you know how fast you were going ?

bogie

16,406 posts

273 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Regarding the tyres, it seems common that manufacturers are fitting road legal track tyres to their top of the range sporty road bikes, they have to in order to be competitive and "win" in the road tests. My MV came with Pirelli Supercorsas that last about 1500 miles and are not so good sub 10 degC in winter. I changed them to the more road orientated Corsa tyres.

The new semi-slick tyres in cold temps must have contributed to the accident....and even a bike with the latest electronics package cant create traction at the road when there is none frown

Rick448

1,682 posts

225 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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I can’t imagine the pain you are feeling. That would be terrible at any time, but coupled with the back story it’s heartbreaking. I suppose the one saving grace is that it’ll be warmer when you get it back.

Art Keller

780 posts

80 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Rick448 said:
I can’t imagine the pain you are feeling. That would be terrible at any time, but coupled with the back story it’s heartbreaking. I suppose the one saving grace is that it’ll be warmer when you get it back.
Well put , All I can add is thankfully you are ok

mr shoddy

107 posts

125 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck. However it could have been much worse. Imagine if a car was coming round that bend in the other direction as you slid across its path? At least you are safe and well and have insurance to sort it all out.

_Neal_

2,690 posts

220 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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anonymous said:
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Probably a silly question but could the rear have locked up momentarily on the downshift, or even just the change in drive/engine braking destabilised the rear? You mentioned you thought you lost the rear end maybe?



V5Ade

228 posts

211 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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anonymous said:
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I've been following this since the beginning, I can't believe your bloody luck! Obviously gutted for you, but you're okay and sounds like your Mrs is a keeper so overall you're winning.

I'd put money this being new tyres and cold, salt roads. I live near a gritting station so all there gritting trucks drive past soI I get to see the difference between a clean roan and a salty road far too regularl; it's amazing how the grip disappears. Not a problem in the cars, but my SDR sketchy as hell!
I hope that the bike is fixed soon and you get to enjoy it properly.

fastbikes76

2,450 posts

123 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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So sorry to read your latest woes Toxic. I’m more of an observer than poster but have been following your tribulations. Opening your post this morning left sat there in disbelief at your rotten luck. I truly don’t know how I would have coped with such st luck, as you say though, you have your health and that’s all that matters.

Regarding riding at this time of the year, well it really is a gamble. My wife and I did over 600 miles through January and apart from worrying about how cold I might get, I thought nothing of the road conditions because we just adjust riding accordingly don’t we ? Well that thought train came to an abrupt halt when on a ride out with my wife and another friend 2 weeks ago. I was on my B-King and hadn’t at any point felt it overly slippery, my friend as an ex Enduro champion and 40+ years experience went down as suddenly and unexpectedly as you did on a slow corner on a 47hp bike. He still can’t fathom how it happened but it did.

Fingers crossed for a quick easy repair or yet another replacement that makes it past the running on stage !

Best wishes smile

bgunn

1,417 posts

132 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Tyres definitely. Plus the fact the roads are incredibly slippery, still.

Totally different bike, but I took my old '98 Blade out the other week (it's well set up with Maxton front and rear, and the tyres are Bridgestone S21s - it has the original 16" front wheel) and I'd consider that bike as docile as can be, relatively low power by modern standards and very tractable. The suspension is compliant/plush, the tyres are well scrubbed in.

I still had a proper rear end twitch/step out when I did a very gentle overtake of someone, which alarmed me somewhat! I was very lightly rolling on the power in second at a low speed, and the episode was enough for me to return home almost immediately..

Bike is staying in the garage until the weather improves more.

Good luck in sorting the bike - as you say, it'll be fixable at a cost. You didn't get injured, and that's all that counts, everything else is secondary.

_Neal_

2,690 posts

220 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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anonymous said:
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Thanks - was wondering about the blipper too, and revs were low anyway - I've less experience than many on here but sounds like new/sporty tyres and a cold day combined, with a stiff bike not giving any warning frown

lukeyman

1,015 posts

136 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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My 2019 Kawasaki apparently has an 'Event Data Recorder' fitted. Is that kind of thing not that common yet?

ETA... my condolences!

You'd only just got the Tech 5 hadn't you?

Edited by lukeyman on Sunday 13th February 19:26

Esceptico

7,554 posts

110 months

Sunday 13th February 2022
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Although the accident was probably due to new tyres and damp, cold roads in your shoes I would still be asking Triumph to check over the bike to exclude mechanical failure, if only for my own piece of mind.

I’d be speaking to your contact at Triumph, explaining the situation (I would probably add that people on social media are a bit puzzled by the accident). Based on your accident and problems you’ve experienced I know I would be a bit wary of getting one myself, even if that isn’t fully justified because there are other great bikes to choose from.

Freakuk

3,170 posts

152 months

Monday 14th February 2022
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Gutting to see this, with the luck you have had with your original bike and within hours of collecting your new one for this to happen, unbelievable!!

You must be seething with the last few weeks and where you are now, but as you say it's only plastic and metal and other than being sore/stiff you're OK which is the main thing.

Insurance will sort the rest, in some ways from a time perspective it might be better if it was written off and you can get a new bike probably quicker than waiting for all of the parts, but that's down to the assessor I guess.

Glad you are OK.