MOTOGP grid 2023

[DarthtaterM16]

A few announcements coming through so seems a decent enough time to get this going..
Still a lot of seats to be confirmed at the moment. Can imagine there will be riders fighting over the satellite Aprilia seats..

Will add all confirmed riders/teams as they are announced.


Repsol Honda:
1. Marc Marquez (End of 24)
2. Joan Mir (End of 24)

Monster Yamaha:
1. Fabio Quartararo (End of 24)
2. Franco Morbidelli (End of 23)

Ducati Lenovo:
1. Francesco Bagnaia (End of 24)
2. Enea Bastianini (End of 24)

Aprilia:
1. Aleix Espargaro (End of 24)
2.Maverick Vinales (End of 24)

Red Bull KTM:
1. Brad Binder (End of 24)
2. Jack Miller (End of 24)

Gresini Ducati:
1. Fabio Di Giannantonio (End of 23)
2. Alex Marquez (End of 23)

RNF Aprilia:
1. Miguel Oliveira (End of 23)
2. Raul Fernandez (End of 23)

GASGASTech3 KTM:
1. Pol Espargaro
2.

LCR Honda:
1. Alex Rins (End of 24)
2.

Pramac Ducati:
1. Jorge Martin (End of 24)
2. Johann Zarco (End of 23)

VR46 Ducati:
1.
2.

Edited by DarthtaterM16 on Tuesday 30th August 09:09

Edited by DarthtaterM16 on Wednesday 31st August 08:38

[stevemcs]

Rumour of Miller going to KTM

[hiccy18]

Contract or no, Frankie's ride looks shaky at the moment.

[Zarco]

Aprilia satellite team will be interesting.

[hiccy18]

Lin Jarvis basically confirmed Fabio & Frankie for next year.

Pit Beirer suggested Oliviera should consider a move back to Tech 3, Oliviera said absolutely not.

[Marquezs Stabilisers]

hiccy18 said:

Lin Jarvis basically confirmed Fabio & Frankie for next year.

Pit Beirer suggested Oliviera should consider a move back to Tech 3, Oliviera said absolutely not.

That's a demotion, no wonder Oliviera said no. He is a better rider than Miller. From a corporate governance point of view, given Ajo runs the KTM team but is also Miller's manager, paying his wages plus his commission as manager there. If I was KTM management I might raise an eyebrow tbh.

Morbidelli will be grateful of a ride but I haven't seen anyone queuing up for it...wonder if Yamaha approached Mir

[LukeBrown66]

I doubt Mir would take Yamaha, at the moment it is the worst bike out there unless you ride like Fabio, even Honda is better.

Miguel will I think look at Honda, but might also look at the satellite Aprilia team if he has any sense.

Big thing you realise here is that often money talks, not necessarily the best ride, these guys have short careers, (now extended by the SBK Dorna retirement fund), so look to money sometimes over potential

[SteelerSE]

Alex Rins would be interesting to see on a Yamaha.

[Freakuk]

Darryn Binder has a contract for 2023 so I assume he will take one seat on the RNF bikes?

[DarthtaterM16]

Freakuk said:

Darryn Binder has a contract for 2023 so I assume he will take one seat on the RNF bikes?

It’s an option for a further year rather than a signed and sealed contract for ‘23.

[Marquezs Stabilisers]

SteelerSE said:

Alex Rins would be interesting to see on a Yamaha.

He might be if he could stop having stupid crashes. He could easily be out of the series next year.

[poo at Paul's]

Marquezs Stabilisers said:

SteelerSE said:

Alex Rins would be interesting to see on a Yamaha.

He might be if he could stop having stupid crashes. He could easily be out of the series next year.

If Marquez is to come back, Rins will be on KTM I reckon, if not, LCR is my guess.

[SteelerSE]

In my head I think of him as Crasher Rins.

But I think his smooth style is a really good fit for the Yamaha and he is undoubtedly fast. I think he'd be a big upgrade on Frankie.

[Zarco]

He seemed to stop crashing for the first few races this year. Since then Mir has been crashing out of the same races, so I think Rins has actually improved a lot in that respect.

[FourWheelDrift]

Quartararo just extended his contract at Yamaha till end of 2024.

[LukeBrown66]

Why would he not do? The bike is solely built around him, even more than a Stoner Ducati or Marquez Honda was, literally nobody else can barely even get in the points on the stupid thing.

[Zarco]

I expect Yamaha paid him a pretty penny too, as without him they'd be screwed currently.

[FourWheelDrift]

LukeBrown66 said:

Why would he not do? The bike is solely built around him, even more than a Stoner Ducati or Marquez Honda was, literally nobody else can barely even get in the points on the stupid thing.

The Yamaha engine is not keeping up with the pace of the others, it's no good if it can go around corners quick if it's stuck behind another bike that pulls away down the next straight, they need to grab the Suzuki engine people when they become available, maybe they have?

No idea how Darryn Binder pulled of that fast speed in the race (slipstream and late breaking past the beam I guess) but look at where all the Yamahas are only the Tech3 KTMs are slower.

https://resources.motogp.com/files/results/2022/IT...

Next year without improvement it will be further behind. Perhaps Quartararo signing is a sign they are getting more engine power.

[unident]

LukeBrown66 said:

Why would he not do? The bike is solely built around him, even more than a Stoner Ducati or Marquez Honda was, literally nobody else can barely even get in the points on the stupid thing.

It’s not built around him, it just happens that the bike they’ve built suits his style perfectly, but remains underpowered. Yamahas have always been about smooth and corner speed over outright top end. Lorenzo was perfect on it, Rossi picked the engine configuration and they’ve stuck with it ever since.

[hiccy18]

SteelerSE said:

In my head I think of him as Crasher Rins.

But I think his smooth style is a really good fit for the Yamaha and he is undoubtedly fast. I think he'd be a big upgrade on Frankie.

Normally I'd scoff at the idea of Rins being an upgrade on Frankie, let alone a big one, but Rins has been quite consistent this year and Frankie is struggling to settle into the new team for some reason.