MOTOGP grid 2023
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I reckon Marc Marquez will ditch Honda at the end of 23 and work to get a Ducati.
This move for Alex is all part of it, moving the family away from Honda to make it easier to welch on his deal and ditch them.
Also, some semi credible rumours recently about Frankie leaving yam and going to RNF on the sat Aprilia and Raul Fernandez replacing him….
This move for Alex is all part of it, moving the family away from Honda to make it easier to welch on his deal and ditch them.
Also, some semi credible rumours recently about Frankie leaving yam and going to RNF on the sat Aprilia and Raul Fernandez replacing him….
poo at Paul's said:
I reckon Marc Marquez will ditch Honda at the end of 23 and work to get a Ducati.
This move for Alex is all part of it, moving the family away from Honda to make it easier to welch on his deal and ditch them.
Oof, thats a pretty big assumption....This move for Alex is all part of it, moving the family away from Honda to make it easier to welch on his deal and ditch them.
Having watched the recent HRC vid about the current situation, I think MM has realised that HRC need to change the way they work, in the way that Gigi forced Ducati to change, and as have Yam, following the European way of doing things....
Currently, I cannot see MM leaving HRC.
Turn7 said:
Oof, thats a pretty big assumption....
Having watched the recent HRC vid about the current situation, I think MM has realised that HRC need to change the way they work, in the way that Gigi forced Ducati to change, and as have Yam, following the European way of doing things....
Currently, I cannot see MM leaving HRC.
Nope, but for 24. Where’s Emilio Alzamora too? The Marquez lads manager, not been anywhere near the paddock for months…. Having watched the recent HRC vid about the current situation, I think MM has realised that HRC need to change the way they work, in the way that Gigi forced Ducati to change, and as have Yam, following the European way of doing things....
Currently, I cannot see MM leaving HRC.
Presume he won’t like his loss of hrc commission if it all falls down!
Marquez is desperate to bear Rossi’s title tally and he’s running out of time, health and ‘bike’ realistically.
Of course it’s only his fault really. If he’d not ridden like such a throbber in Jerez 2020, he’d likely be on 10 now.
I see him on an MM973 team Marquez satellite Ducati in 2023 with his brother, sponsored by Estrellia 0% beer. You heard it here first!
poo at Paul's said:
Turn7 said:
Oof, thats a pretty big assumption....
Having watched the recent HRC vid about the current situation, I think MM has realised that HRC need to change the way they work, in the way that Gigi forced Ducati to change, and as have Yam, following the European way of doing things....
Currently, I cannot see MM leaving HRC.
Nope, but for 24. Where’s Emilio Alzamora too? The Marquez lads manager, not been anywhere near the paddock for months…. Having watched the recent HRC vid about the current situation, I think MM has realised that HRC need to change the way they work, in the way that Gigi forced Ducati to change, and as have Yam, following the European way of doing things....
Currently, I cannot see MM leaving HRC.
Presume he won’t like his loss of hrc commission if it all falls down!
Marquez is desperate to bear Rossi’s title tally and he’s running out of time, health and ‘bike’ realistically.
Of course it’s only his fault really. If he’d not ridden like such a throbber in Jerez 2020, he’d likely be on 10 now.
I see him on an MM973 team Marquez satellite Ducati in 2023 with his brother, sponsored by Estrellia 0% beer. You heard it here first!
Alzamore gone, and according to PecinoGP, another BIG name soon to leave HRC.
My gut instinct is that Puig will go, and a more euro way of thinking and working will come into play.
I read an article recently that suggested Taka Nakagami was worth more to management for his understanding of euro ways and english than as a rider.
HRC dont like being beaten, but the old ways just dont cut it now....
The big issue here is also the same at Yamaha, only one bloke can really ride the bike. Marquez has hidden the issues for a very long time, only really Cal could get close, and I think he was basically either doing OK or crashing to do that. Puig has allows been a brash, nasty piece of work, even when he was a rider, so it is no shock he has been shoved, he is good at talent spotting and that stuff, but not a team leader.
Weird if they dump Alzamora, he has been there since the start.
As for Yamaha, well they have the same issue in that only one guy can ride the bike, but he is not going anywhere, Franco has been awful, but then none of them have been any good so you cant really dump the guy
Weird if they dump Alzamora, he has been there since the start.
As for Yamaha, well they have the same issue in that only one guy can ride the bike, but he is not going anywhere, Franco has been awful, but then none of them have been any good so you cant really dump the guy
FourWheelDrift said:
If it wasn't for Fabio all the Japanese manufacturers would be nowhere, beaten week in week out by Ducati, Aprilia and KTM.
And the Factories know this, hence all looking to change work practises, as the info streams arent working.When Gigi started at Duc, he made engineers rotate from box to factory so they were all on the same page.
Aprilia have got where they are in a short space of time due to short communication lines.....
hiccy18 said:
Mir confirmed at HRC for two years.
Can’t see him being any better than Pol on it, tbh. Let’s not forget, Pol started pretty well on it, pole a year ago at Silverstone, Honda’s last podium too.
I think he’ll not be as high up as he is on the Suzuki, and will get disillusioned.
Oh and of course, he has some proper beef with Marquez, they cannot stick each other. So that’s going to work out well! .
Has to have been a difficult negotiation after he already seemed to have rebuffed them in favour of staying at Suzuki. HRC are giving themselves every chance of returning to the podium.
Oliveira and R Fernandez confirmed at RNF now too, Oliveira choosing a year old satellite squad over a three year contract on GasGas Tech3, wonder what that says about his relationship with KTM management and his faith in their project.
Oliveira and R Fernandez confirmed at RNF now too, Oliveira choosing a year old satellite squad over a three year contract on GasGas Tech3, wonder what that says about his relationship with KTM management and his faith in their project.
hiccy18 said:
Has to have been a difficult negotiation after he already seemed to have rebuffed them in favour of staying at Suzuki. HRC are giving themselves every chance of returning to the podium.
Oliveira and R Fernandez confirmed at RNF now too, Oliveira choosing a year old satellite squad over a three year contract on GasGas Tech3, wonder what that says about his relationship with KTM management and his faith in their project.
Maybe Miguel was talking to HRC as well, but ran out of time. KTM also always seem to have new stuff to test and bring in, perhaps to the detriment of getting a working package out of what they have. Aprilia appears a less pressured place and also it is a better bike right now. Oliveira and R Fernandez confirmed at RNF now too, Oliveira choosing a year old satellite squad over a three year contract on GasGas Tech3, wonder what that says about his relationship with KTM management and his faith in their project.
Oliveira had a bee in his bonnet after KTM moved Brad Binder straight into the factory team from Moto2 instead of promoting him after his rookie year at Tech3 so maybe to him having been there already it would be a step back even if it means going satellite elsewhere.
Fernandez to me has been riding like a person who doesn't want to be in MotoGP, he said himself he'd rather have stayed in Moto2 and won the title before going to MotoGP. I rated him in Moto2 but he just doesn't look like a MotoGP rider to me, not yet.
Fernandez to me has been riding like a person who doesn't want to be in MotoGP, he said himself he'd rather have stayed in Moto2 and won the title before going to MotoGP. I rated him in Moto2 but he just doesn't look like a MotoGP rider to me, not yet.
hiccy18 said:
Has to have been a difficult negotiation after he already seemed to have rebuffed them in favour of staying at Suzuki. HRC are giving themselves every chance of returning to the podium.
Oliveira and R Fernandez confirmed at RNF now too, Oliveira choosing a year old satellite squad over a three year contract on GasGas Tech3, wonder what that says about his relationship with KTM management and his faith in their project.
Fernandez never wanted the KTM MotoGP ride and was in talks with Yamaha, but he couldn't get out of his KTM contract and that was his only option for '22. I feel he should have embraced it given he's been under the KTM wing for some years and they've given him decent bikes so far. But it sounds like he spat his dummy out from day one and maybe cleverly had some performance clauses within his contract to get him out painlessly, just the complication that RNF moved to Aprilia, but that seems to have been addressed now.Oliveira and R Fernandez confirmed at RNF now too, Oliveira choosing a year old satellite squad over a three year contract on GasGas Tech3, wonder what that says about his relationship with KTM management and his faith in their project.
As for Oliveira, he had the chance to go to the factory team a year or two ago, turned it down so BB ended up in the factory team, he's probably miffed with all of the mucking around and his results weren't what they were, and the Aprilia looks to be the bike to be on, apart from the Ducati's
Fingers crossed RNF get the same level of support as the factory bikes in '23
epom said:
One would assume Marini is safe enough in the Mooney team.
Well he is Rossi's 1/2 brother so I would assume so. I don't see any change at VR46, I think Nakagami will stay at LCR for a year to give Honda time to reinvent the bike again.My only question mark is on the 2nd GasGas ride.
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