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Drawweight said:
On my first 1100 I put 6 pot callipers on it. I believe they were from an early GSXR 1000 but don’t quote me on that.
In spite of the fact they don’t get a good reputation they made a significant difference on the ZZR.
I’m not suggesting you switch as the callipers you have should in theory be quite the upgrade. Perhaps it’s the master cylinder/ calliper ratio that’s wrong and they were never intended for your bike from new.
They are made for it, I'm going to get a more modern m/c for itIn spite of the fact they don’t get a good reputation they made a significant difference on the ZZR.
I’m not suggesting you switch as the callipers you have should in theory be quite the upgrade. Perhaps it’s the master cylinder/ calliper ratio that’s wrong and they were never intended for your bike from new.
I've done stuff since the last update:
Bar risers -they fit under the STD bars and raise them by 30mm(good for old farts)
Zzr600 rear suspension dog bones, they lower the back end by about 30mm(not the same 30mm from the handlebars)
What a pain in the arse they were e
Paddock stand no good, centre stand is not very good and the last owner welded it but t it's crap, I put it on the centre stand with bits of wood under the stand and cable ties around the front brake to keep it stable, couldn't find the 19mm socket so I had to lock the 19mm side and undo it from the other side.
The zzr600 one's are only a bit shorter than the zzr11 ones , I thought it would make no difference but it's better with a few toes down at the lights etc when I collected it , I could only get one toe down on one side
I also did the chain adjuster mod to raise the rear end and speed up the steering a bit, it raises the seat a bit and improves the steering.
The front mudguard had been welded but had cracked again and it's not worth saving, so I use cable ties , drilling holes each side of the cracks the added super glue with bicarbonate of soda sprinkled on to speed it up.
A pain in the arse bit was the r/h exhaust gas split, the front brakes need a rebuild and I haven't had time to for the radial master cylinder yet.
I went round the block and a bit more, seems to steer much better , the bars are nicer ,but I think the r/h one is bent,was raining when I got home so that's for tomorrow
It's no longer a mistake the adjustment's I've done make it feel lighter when moving it around pushing or when seated
Pics when it's less damp out
Bar risers -they fit under the STD bars and raise them by 30mm(good for old farts)
Zzr600 rear suspension dog bones, they lower the back end by about 30mm(not the same 30mm from the handlebars)
What a pain in the arse they were e
Paddock stand no good, centre stand is not very good and the last owner welded it but t it's crap, I put it on the centre stand with bits of wood under the stand and cable ties around the front brake to keep it stable, couldn't find the 19mm socket so I had to lock the 19mm side and undo it from the other side.
The zzr600 one's are only a bit shorter than the zzr11 ones , I thought it would make no difference but it's better with a few toes down at the lights etc when I collected it , I could only get one toe down on one side
I also did the chain adjuster mod to raise the rear end and speed up the steering a bit, it raises the seat a bit and improves the steering.
The front mudguard had been welded but had cracked again and it's not worth saving, so I use cable ties , drilling holes each side of the cracks the added super glue with bicarbonate of soda sprinkled on to speed it up.
A pain in the arse bit was the r/h exhaust gas split, the front brakes need a rebuild and I haven't had time to for the radial master cylinder yet.
I went round the block and a bit more, seems to steer much better , the bars are nicer ,but I think the r/h one is bent,was raining when I got home so that's for tomorrow
It's no longer a mistake the adjustment's I've done make it feel lighter when moving it around pushing or when seated
Pics when it's less damp out
Picked one up last weekend have commuted all week on it wet and dry thanks for the info earlier in the thread
43k £979 and less than 5 miles from home a few things to do including get a slightly larger number plate / de anodise / swap the 4-1 unbaffled thunder box so I stop giving the young and elderly cardiac arrests and pick up some Hepco and Becker luggage
Pleased so far but it’s a heavy bike and I had an embarrassing one foot down / leaves / tarmac interface stopped at a junction so now will have some scratches to deal with on the left fairing but overall was a good call for the job at hand
43k £979 and less than 5 miles from home a few things to do including get a slightly larger number plate / de anodise / swap the 4-1 unbaffled thunder box so I stop giving the young and elderly cardiac arrests and pick up some Hepco and Becker luggage
Pleased so far but it’s a heavy bike and I had an embarrassing one foot down / leaves / tarmac interface stopped at a junction so now will have some scratches to deal with on the left fairing but overall was a good call for the job at hand
Edited by BigFatNinja on Monday 7th November 19:55
It's been pushed into service this week, last Saturday the car are it's turbo, so Sunday I was home around 1530 I finished putting the carbs back on at 1900
I removed the pilot jets and put them in a glass jar with petrol in and stuck the jar(lid on) Inthe ultrasonic cleaner, I cooked them for about 20mins, the fuel had darkened quite a lot , I also heated them in a naked flame.
Up at 0330 on the bike at 0430 it was quite cold blooded still and a bugger to get off of the slightly sloped drive,no power down low, it was ok on the main road but then wanted to do 70+
I figured the jets need more time in the cleaner, so I'm buying some unrestricted ones to cobble together a decent set and I can clean parts for longer.
Tuesday the ignition had frozen (0420) so I got the acf90 (don't like wd40) no good , so back in the house and I got my blowtorch,key and lock heated and I was off.
Wednesday was better at starting as I found my cover, Friday it was a right pain to get off of the drive 6k and clutch slip, sorry neighbors , once again rough low down but when warm it was ok
Surprisingly ok in the icy/snowy roads, apart from getting home and getting off and pushing it back onto the drive, it slid ,I slid, kept it upright whilst we both slipped towards the house
I removed the pilot jets and put them in a glass jar with petrol in and stuck the jar(lid on) Inthe ultrasonic cleaner, I cooked them for about 20mins, the fuel had darkened quite a lot , I also heated them in a naked flame.
Up at 0330 on the bike at 0430 it was quite cold blooded still and a bugger to get off of the slightly sloped drive,no power down low, it was ok on the main road but then wanted to do 70+
I figured the jets need more time in the cleaner, so I'm buying some unrestricted ones to cobble together a decent set and I can clean parts for longer.
Tuesday the ignition had frozen (0420) so I got the acf90 (don't like wd40) no good , so back in the house and I got my blowtorch,key and lock heated and I was off.
Wednesday was better at starting as I found my cover, Friday it was a right pain to get off of the drive 6k and clutch slip, sorry neighbors , once again rough low down but when warm it was ok
Surprisingly ok in the icy/snowy roads, apart from getting home and getting off and pushing it back onto the drive, it slid ,I slid, kept it upright whilst we both slipped towards the house
This week has been mostly carb related, on Wednesday it was running so badly it was only doing 30 mph and a hard to get to 30 too, so Thurs I took the airbox off and started it up, the middle two carbs were working but not t no's 1 and 4
Carbs off, jets into the ultrasonic cleaner and carb tops off, new needles,check the diaphragms,all looking ok, so I refitted the carb tops, holding the slides up a bit so there would be no pinching
No time to test ride so off to work,a easy(ish) 40 mph with 60 if I put the choke on, turns out there is a 15-20 mm hose from the ramair at the front to the carbs, this had been pulled out when I was removing or refitting the carbs etc
It's back to scaring the poo out of me again, full power now and running really well
Carbs off, jets into the ultrasonic cleaner and carb tops off, new needles,check the diaphragms,all looking ok, so I refitted the carb tops, holding the slides up a bit so there would be no pinching
No time to test ride so off to work,a easy(ish) 40 mph with 60 if I put the choke on, turns out there is a 15-20 mm hose from the ramair at the front to the carbs, this had been pulled out when I was removing or refitting the carbs etc
It's back to scaring the poo out of me again, full power now and running really well
A500leroy said:
How easy do you find getting parts for an older bike, or do you just cobble up bits of other Kawasaki on to it?
Sorry I forgot to answer, I lowered it initially because the last owner was 6ft2 and may have liked a pie, I've only go a 39 inch inside leg, I don't mind tall bikes be r when they are tall and the seat is wide I suffer It rides much better being lower at the rear , I have also dropped the yokes over the forks about an extra 5mm
Turning the eccentrics for the chain raised the back end slightly but made it steer much better
I've not been fab of the Harrison 6 pot calipers that it came fitted with, the feel at the lever was rubbish, really hard and not much feel, I didn't like braking to a point that was not of my own choosing I e. Late changing traffic lights.
So today I fitted a missing radial master cylinder from Yamaha R1m, it took a while to bleed but eventually we got there.
It's quite a soft lever, but I can now feel when the brakes are starting to bite and brake hard enough to compress the front suspension
The lever travel us grater but I can use two fingers rather than the 4 I was using.
So today I fitted a missing radial master cylinder from Yamaha R1m, it took a while to bleed but eventually we got there.
It's quite a soft lever, but I can now feel when the brakes are starting to bite and brake hard enough to compress the front suspension
The lever travel us grater but I can use two fingers rather than the 4 I was using.
Update more problems....my fault as the car broke when we had the two really cold/snowy weeks and the locals gritted the roads.
Rear caliper, always been a bit sticky, then it was just stuck, took it off to pump the pistons out but one wouldn't budge, so I took it apart but my piston pliers wouldn't work as it was very stuck
Off to YouTube, box spanner and a extension bar stuck in long and hard enough to twist and pull the pistons out, loads of corrosion behind the seals.
Cleaned up everything,red rubber grease on and behind the seals and rebuilt with stainless pins
Bloody thing wouldn't bleed, off to eBay for a vacuum brake bleeding kit, worked well all sorted
Next the clutch master cylinder....
Rear caliper, always been a bit sticky, then it was just stuck, took it off to pump the pistons out but one wouldn't budge, so I took it apart but my piston pliers wouldn't work as it was very stuck
Off to YouTube, box spanner and a extension bar stuck in long and hard enough to twist and pull the pistons out, loads of corrosion behind the seals.
Cleaned up everything,red rubber grease on and behind the seals and rebuilt with stainless pins
Bloody thing wouldn't bleed, off to eBay for a vacuum brake bleeding kit, worked well all sorted
Next the clutch master cylinder....
The clutch started getting a bit odd on the way to work, the clutch was biting right near the bar, literally move it a few millimetres and it was off, a little disconcerting, then after work no clutch lift at all,the fluid in the master cylinder had disappeared, so on the way home it was stop at lights dead engine, into gear and start with the starter motor engaged and kind of make a smooth a start as possible looking as cool as anything whilst kangarooing the first 20 or so feet until the engine burst into life
I ordered a kit and removed, cleaned and rebuilt the slave cylinder
So far I'm getting no pressure and still lots of air, I'm thinking that their is air getting past the threads of the bleed nipple,as it's sealing ok when I do it up, I'm going to remove the slave and try and bleed it on the bench as it's awkward to see anything when it's still bolted to the bike
I ordered a kit and removed, cleaned and rebuilt the slave cylinder
So far I'm getting no pressure and still lots of air, I'm thinking that their is air getting past the threads of the bleed nipple,as it's sealing ok when I do it up, I'm going to remove the slave and try and bleed it on the bench as it's awkward to see anything when it's still bolted to the bike
ssray said:
The clutch started getting a bit odd on the way to work, the clutch was biting right near the bar, literally move it a few millimetres and it was off, a little disconcerting, then after work no clutch lift at all,the fluid in the master cylinder had disappeared, so on the way home it was stop at lights dead engine, into gear and start with the starter motor engaged and kind of make a smooth a start as possible looking as cool as anything whilst kangarooing the first 20 or so feet until the engine burst into life
I ordered a kit and removed, cleaned and rebuilt the slave cylinder
So far I'm getting no pressure and still lots of air, I'm thinking that their is air getting past the threads of the bleed nipple,as it's sealing ok when I do it up, I'm going to remove the slave and try and bleed it on the bench as it's awkward to see anything when it's still bolted to the bike
Try tying the lever to the handle bar overnight, see if that makes any difference s the air bubbles rise. I ordered a kit and removed, cleaned and rebuilt the slave cylinder
So far I'm getting no pressure and still lots of air, I'm thinking that their is air getting past the threads of the bleed nipple,as it's sealing ok when I do it up, I'm going to remove the slave and try and bleed it on the bench as it's awkward to see anything when it's still bolted to the bike
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