BSB / WSB grids 2023

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trickywoo

11,790 posts

230 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Slopes said:
According to British Superbikes website, a team is using the GSXR750R in British Supersport this year.
That's a bit of an unfair advantage i would wager
From what I can see in the rules they can include pretty much anything under the 'Supersport Next Generation Machines' category within the Supersport series.

They have an approved parts list and one of the mandatory things is a fully fly by wire throttle. It says in the rules that the organisers can make changes at any time to ensure a level playing field (words to that effect).

The 750 is still in the spirit of the rules so I guess thats why they will allow it but I bet they will be careful not to let it run away.




stang65

358 posts

137 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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A series for 1000cc twins and 750cc fours sounds great....you'd have thought someone would have thought of that before......

rigga

8,730 posts

201 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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See Richard Cooper has signed up to ride in the new BMW 900 twin support class .

That's him won that then.

Rene Souffle

3,453 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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rigga said:
See Richard Cooper has signed up to ride in the new BMW 900 twin support class .

That's him won that then.
Yeah. He’s getting quite a bit of stick for that on social media. I sort of get it but at the same time, he’s got a career to build on. If he can win that, it’s another championship on his CV and it’s by no means a certainty.

graeme4130

3,828 posts

181 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Rene Souffle said:
Yeah. He’s getting quite a bit of stick for that on social media. I sort of get it but at the same time, he’s got a career to build on. If he can win that, it’s another championship on his CV and it’s by no means a certainty.
If he was running himself as a private entry to keep his career going, I’d say fair play to him
But…. he’s being run by the richest team in the sport by some margin, and a team that has two stock1000 rides available after both their riders left paid/free rides there to go to teams they’re both having to pay for themselves (which possibly says a lot about FHO too)
I think people are unhappy with FHO, not Coops himself

I can see why it was all kept a big secret until now as I genuinely think there’s a fair few people that now wish they’d not bought into what was basically sold as a club series with a few big name wildcards, and that top prize money is now further out of reach. It’s also a class they’ve struggled to fill and is only about 50% full anyway
On the positive, it’ll give a few of the faster youngsters a tow





Edited by graeme4130 on Friday 24th March 07:21

Slopes

38,818 posts

187 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Rene Souffle said:
rigga said:
See Richard Cooper has signed up to ride in the new BMW 900 twin support class .

That's him won that then.
Yeah. He’s getting quite a bit of stick for that on social media. I sort of get it but at the same time, he’s got a career to build on. If he can win that, it’s another championship on his CV and it’s by no means a certainty.
But that's nothing new, Mike Edwards used to do that back in the day, drop down into a lower class, blitz it and use it to get a ride in a better series. I seem to remember Francis Williamson doing that a few times too.

Call me cynical but maybe the organisers wanted a good rider to come in and provide a pantomime villain for the series, gives the younger riders someone to aim at and the fans someone to gripe about

Abdul Abulbul Amir

13,179 posts

212 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Slopes said:
Rene Souffle said:
rigga said:
See Richard Cooper has signed up to ride in the new BMW 900 twin support class .

That's him won that then.
Yeah. He’s getting quite a bit of stick for that on social media. I sort of get it but at the same time, he’s got a career to build on. If he can win that, it’s another championship on his CV and it’s by no means a certainty.
But that's nothing new, Mike Edwards used to do that back in the day, drop down into a lower class, blitz it and use it to get a ride in a better series. I seem to remember Francis Williamson doing that a few times too.

Call me cynical but maybe the organisers wanted a good rider to come in and provide a pantomime villain for the series, gives the younger riders someone to aim at and the fans someone to gripe about
Yup, the BMW/FHO link would have something to do with it.

graeme4130

3,828 posts

181 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Slopes said:
Rene Souffle said:
rigga said:
See Richard Cooper has signed up to ride in the new BMW 900 twin support class .

That's him won that then.
Yeah. He’s getting quite a bit of stick for that on social media. I sort of get it but at the same time, he’s got a career to build on. If he can win that, it’s another championship on his CV and it’s by no means a certainty.
But that's nothing new, Mike Edwards used to do that back in the day, drop down into a lower class, blitz it and use it to get a ride in a better series. I seem to remember Francis Williamson doing that a few times too.

Call me cynical but maybe the organisers wanted a good rider to come in and provide a pantomime villain for the series, gives the younger riders someone to aim at and the fans someone to gripe about
I get what your saying about Spike, and it was pretty common back then
However, there's dropping down a class, and then there's winning a stock1000 race in 22, and two podiums in SS600 in 22 and dropping down to basically the lowest class in BSB which is a class that was sold as a good stepping stone for club racers to get into the BSB paddock
Like I said above, I can see why BSB/BMW kept this until the last minute to make it public (although it's been known for a few months now, but never confirmed) as it'd put a lot of people off knowing they're only gonna come second at best
For the spectacle for BSB and drawing crowds in, again, I think this will damage that as he'll make the class look very mediocre
They'd have been better off doing the big ish name wildcards like Rutter or Stalker (I'd love to see Mcguinness on one, but his contract with Honda probably won't allow him to ride a BMW)
This isn't anything against Coops, as it's a good chance for him for some easy prize money, it's more a really poor reflection on FHO when they could have easily run him in Stk1000 where he's got a really strong chance of winning a proper championship for them
They've effectively brought a gun to a knife fight

Zarco

17,847 posts

209 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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It's a crying shame he's not in Stock 1000. He turned up and smashed them last year.

Turn7

23,608 posts

221 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Zarco said:
It's a crying shame he's not in Stock 1000. He turned up and smashed them last year.
Agreed.
Big fan of Coops and stk1k just worked for him

rigga

8,730 posts

201 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Haslam announcement this weekend apparently, the big reveal.

airsafari87

2,581 posts

182 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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rigga said:
Haslam announcement this weekend apparently, the big reveal.
Worst kept secret?

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Turn7 said:
Zarco said:
It's a crying shame he's not in Stock 1000. He turned up and smashed them last year.
Agreed.
Big fan of Coops and stk1k just worked for him
I guess if you can't get enough sponsorship do you spend your own money on a uncompetitive bike or put the same money into a lower spec class but a really good package .

Tam_Mullen

2,290 posts

172 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Christ is that a factory BMW Haslam is on? Some ride that…

Normodog

226 posts

40 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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egor110 said:
I guess if you can't get enough sponsorship do you spend your own money on a uncompetitive bike or put the same money into a lower spec class but a really good package .
In a way the series now has a good reference rider. If anyone is able to beat coops they are worthy of a good ride in ssp.

DarthtaterM16

Original Poster:

913 posts

102 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Haslam’s title winning ride has been announced!

Zarco

17,847 posts

209 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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DarthtaterM16 said:
Haslam’s title winning ride has been announced!
At last!

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Ha vent we been here before? unless he is right for it, gob smackingly average

Abdul Abulbul Amir

13,179 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Tam_Mullen said:
Christ is that a factory BMW Haslam is on? Some ride that…
Assume he'll be on a GS at his age.

snowy slopes

38,818 posts

187 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Abdul Abulbul Amir said:
Tam_Mullen said:
Christ is that a factory BMW Haslam is on? Some ride that…
Assume he'll be on a GS at his age.
If it is a factory ride, i can't see FHO or Tyco being too happy after they've flown the flag for the last few years.
Mind you, if pre season form is anything to go by, he could be right up th front end of the championship......Scott Redding's replacement next year anyone?
Especially after Redding's display of punching the tank and swearing recently