Moto GP Thread 2023

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epom

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Thursday 23rd November 2023
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520TORQUES said:
epom said:
Couldn’t agree more, if he had deserved a ride or had shown enough speed before now he’d have one. He didn’t and now it’s too late, It’s that simple.
It's rarely that simple. The interview with his crew chief last weekend was interesting, explaining what went on this year with Digi. I think he deserves another shot at it, he clearly has some talent.
No one doubting he had talent, and lots of it. Professional sport of any persuasion is a results based business. Those producing the numbers, results, get rewarded. Sadly for him he’s left it too late. It’s like a premier league team winning their last 3 games of the season after finally figuring it out to end up on 9 points.

epom

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Friday 24th November 2023
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Zarco said:
520TORQUES said:
epom said:
520TORQUES said:
epom said:
Couldn’t agree more, if he had deserved a ride or had shown enough speed before now he’d have one. He didn’t and now it’s too late, It’s that simple.
It's rarely that simple. The interview with his crew chief last weekend was interesting, explaining what went on this year with Digi. I think he deserves another shot at it, he clearly has some talent.
No one doubting he had talent, and lots of it. Professional sport of any persuasion is a results based business. Those producing the numbers, results, get rewarded. Sadly for him he’s left it too late. It’s like a premier league team winning their last 3 games of the season after finally figuring it out to end up on 9 points.
He is 12th in the standings, ahead of Mark Marquez, Morbidelli, Bastianini, Olivera, Fernandez, Rins......................
He has beaten Marquez 11 times this year.
That's a good one laugh
My argument has become redundant smile

epom

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Friday 24th November 2023
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520TORQUES said:
epom said:
My argument has become redundant smile
Certainly has. biggrin

Current results matter, but the potential to perform in the future is just as important, as are the dynamics behind the current results.

If that were not the case many of the riders, including Marquez, would be out of a ride next year and riders in the lower classes would never progress.
Unless I suppose I was to point out he's on the all dominant Ducati.

epom

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Monday 27th November 2023
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Disappointed as I really wanted Martin to win, more so because of the non factory team if being honest. I've nothing against Pecco and no argument that he is a deserving champion again.
As seasons go it was a decent one and certainly lots of talking points (even if a lot were for off the track). And that's despite it being a Ducati-Fest.

Looking forward to the coming year already. Well done all on keep the thread a decent on civil place to be too.

epom

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Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Yazza54 said:
Lots going on today

Marc on the duc

Will the honda be improved

Yamaha too... I expect Fabio to be very vocal if he's not happy.. we will definitely know about it if he's not impressed

Oh and that Pedro bloke on a ktm
Oh yes, had forgotten about this amazingly enough.

epom

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Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Pole at the weekend was 1.28.931 trying to find the average race lap times but struggling, so if anyone can pop it up there.

epom

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Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Johno said:
Zarco evaluating the Honda’s new aero gravel ploughing ability. He seemed disappointed, but it’s a major part of riding the Honda he’ll need to assess and understand more of.
Yep, hardly a surprise to anyone.

epom

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Thursday 30th November 2023
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Zarco said:
flatlandsman said:
Anyone else think its a bit weird that apparently Rins was unfit to ride for months yet was fine to ride the new bike and seemed OK! Did something happen there?
He did ride in the last race as well, so it's not like he sacked it off completely until he could join Yamaha at the test (not that anyone could blame him really). There were reports of complications/issues with his leg after the surgery over the last few weeks (think he might have even had a second op).

Mir is more 'suspect' in that respect as he crashed out in practice. Didn't race, then was out for the test. Again, can't say I blame him. He's been open about the fact he cares more about the test and the new bike than anything else.
I notice that MM is in a cast too.

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Wednesday 6th December 2023
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ajprice said:
Zarco said:
Livery is rad though. I think they'll be fine as long as there is enough money behind them.


'murica! musicshootburgerflames
Can't be accused of not being all in anyhow smile

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Friday 22nd December 2023
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Freakuk said:
Probably speaking out of turn here, I'd say either Marquez's riding style requires such an extreme bike that it's so far from the norm no-one can ride it, or he just cannot develop a bike - he doesn't need to as he has that much raw talent. This is possibly why Honda have ended up in such a whole, they've either just sat on their laurels and know they have a unique talent that can ride almost anything, or they've listened to Marc and built a bike so extreme it's trying to kill everyone.

With Marc gone they have 3 riders who are good development riders, plus Bradl and they have a constant in Taka to compare against, let alone all of the engineers and back room staff they have recruited. 2024 will be a development year for them and from the sounds of it they're on the right path. If they make sufficient progress in 2024 you would have to question would Honda want Marc back?
If he's world champion probably smile

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Sunday 24th December 2023
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Indeed one paragraph sums it up…..

“We don’t need champion engineers. We need champion riders. Let them show what they’re capable of doing. At the moment, the engineers’ control everything they do.“

epom

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Wednesday 27th December 2023
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Seems like an important milestone in Fabio’s life. Good for him.

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Yazza54 said:
That man doesn’t know what he wants wink