Bikes now banned in the Pyrenees
Discussion
All 3 of my bikes are loud, mainly because I enjoy the sound but it also helps people hear me before they see me - quite useful in sleepy Shropshire where people will pull out of junctions without looking.
The difference is, I won't sit there at traffic lights intentionally revving my engine like some idiots, I also tend to ride my bike as if I'm driving a car (i.e I won't pretend I'm Valentino Rossi) so the bike is never screaming.
I do have a problem with the unlicenced, uninsured motocross bikes that scream up and down my estate on their back wheel though. They just go up and down the same road constantly, how is that fun?!
The difference is, I won't sit there at traffic lights intentionally revving my engine like some idiots, I also tend to ride my bike as if I'm driving a car (i.e I won't pretend I'm Valentino Rossi) so the bike is never screaming.
I do have a problem with the unlicenced, uninsured motocross bikes that scream up and down my estate on their back wheel though. They just go up and down the same road constantly, how is that fun?!
KTMsm said:
black-k1 said:
You are making my point beautifully! 
The fact your bike was louder when new doesn't stop it upsetting people. They don't care if it's old or new, it's just loud.
The question is are you happy with the real world consequences on other bikers because your older bike is loud?
Yes The fact your bike was louder when new doesn't stop it upsetting people. They don't care if it's old or new, it's just loud.The question is are you happy with the real world consequences on other bikers because your older bike is loud?
Otherwise we end up in the never ending, downward spiral of micro aggressions and pro nouns
I don't like slow drivers, buses, lorries or fat people - can we ban them ?
I’m a petrolhead through and through. No interest in EVs.
Sound is a huge part of the experience, but there’s a big difference between “sound” and “noise”.
Some of the bikes that come through my village sound utterly s
te. I just wish the owners would give their mates a go for a ride-by so they’d realise. Although judging by their riding they’d still think it sounded “Pure lethal as f**k!”.
A nice sounding engine is a nice sounding engine.
I hate to say it but it’s those KTMs and motard things that just sound “hooligan loud”.
But hey, we are all different. Whatever floats our boats eh.
“Screw everyone else” seems to be the human mantra, increasingly these days so maybe we should all just do that?
marky911 said:
But buses, lorries and fat people haven’t usually been made unnecessarily loud to please the one person in charge whilst simultaneously peeing off everyone they pass, who might not want to hear it.
I’m a petrolhead through and through. No interest in EVs.
Sound is a huge part of the experience, but there’s a big difference between “sound” and “noise”.
Some of the bikes that come through my village sound utterly ste. I just wish the owners would give their mates a go for a ride-by so they’d realise.
Although judging by their riding they’d still think it sounded “Pure lethal as f**k!”.
A nice sounding engine is a nice sounding engine.
I hate to say it but it’s those KTMs and motard things that just sound “hooligan loud”.
But hey, we are all different. Whatever floats our boats eh.
“Screw everyone else” seems to be the human mantra, increasingly these days so maybe we should all just do that?
I'm glad to see you're paying as much attention as usual...I’m a petrolhead through and through. No interest in EVs.
Sound is a huge part of the experience, but there’s a big difference between “sound” and “noise”.
Some of the bikes that come through my village sound utterly s
te. I just wish the owners would give their mates a go for a ride-by so they’d realise. Although judging by their riding they’d still think it sounded “Pure lethal as f**k!”.
A nice sounding engine is a nice sounding engine.
I hate to say it but it’s those KTMs and motard things that just sound “hooligan loud”.
But hey, we are all different. Whatever floats our boats eh.
“Screw everyone else” seems to be the human mantra, increasingly these days so maybe we should all just do that?
we were talking about a standard bike
and whether it is reasonable to ask all the bikes to be silenced to new bike levels
Tribal Chestnut said:
Was considering putting an obnoxious can on my XR….might well wait until after June though. 
(plus I love it’s induction sound and am a little bit concerned it might be drowned out by a noisier exhaust)
As the route back is through Austria (described to me as Germany without the happy-go-lucky outlook! (plus I love it’s induction sound and am a little bit concerned it might be drowned out by a noisier exhaust)
) that may be a good idea! Discendo Discimus said:
All 3 of my bikes are loud, mainly because I enjoy the sound but it also helps people hear me before they see me - quite useful in sleepy Shropshire where people will pull out of junctions without looking.
The difference is, I won't sit there at traffic lights intentionally revving my engine like some idiots, I also tend to ride my bike as if I'm driving a car (i.e I won't pretend I'm Valentino Rossi) so the bike is never screaming.
I do have a problem with the unlicenced, uninsured motocross bikes that scream up and down my estate on their back wheel though. They just go up and down the same road constantly, how is that fun?!
I don't think justifying a loud bike by saying that you have an issue with others is the way to go. Whoever and for whatever reason, spoiling someone else's peace and quiet is a selfish act. The difference is, I won't sit there at traffic lights intentionally revving my engine like some idiots, I also tend to ride my bike as if I'm driving a car (i.e I won't pretend I'm Valentino Rossi) so the bike is never screaming.
I do have a problem with the unlicenced, uninsured motocross bikes that scream up and down my estate on their back wheel though. They just go up and down the same road constantly, how is that fun?!
trickywoo said:
You could still rip through on an electric bike.
I'm following Marc Travels on YouTube and I'm starting to think an electric bike might be a viable option, if I reduce the number of miles a day, which in the Alps, would be possible and still have a nice week away. The only issue is it would then take 2 days to get there not one long day I can do now from Calais to Gap or Jausiers.Gee68 said:
I hate loud pipes,I live next to a main road,they’re not big,they’re not clever and they piss ordinary non bikers off,what’s the point?
I will add I’m old and miserable so my opinion may not mean a fat lot.
+1 my bike came with a carbon Scorpion thing. I'm refitting a OEM one. I will add I’m old and miserable so my opinion may not mean a fat lot.
I hate the Peak district in summer especially anywhere near Snake. Even one valley over all you can hear are the drone of crap gear changes. Then silence and traffic backing up with the inevitable crash.
Discendo Discimus said:
All 3 of my bikes are loud, mainly because I enjoy the sound but it also helps people hear me before they see me - quite useful in sleepy Shropshire where people will pull out of junctions without looking.
The difference is, I won't sit there at traffic lights intentionally revving my engine like some idiots, I also tend to ride my bike as if I'm driving a car (i.e I won't pretend I'm Valentino Rossi) so the bike is never screaming.
I do have a problem with the unlicenced, uninsured motocross bikes that scream up and down my estate on their back wheel though. They just go up and down the same road constantly, how is that fun?!
Yet the sound of your bikes will carry for miles. How is that different. The difference is, I won't sit there at traffic lights intentionally revving my engine like some idiots, I also tend to ride my bike as if I'm driving a car (i.e I won't pretend I'm Valentino Rossi) so the bike is never screaming.
I do have a problem with the unlicenced, uninsured motocross bikes that scream up and down my estate on their back wheel though. They just go up and down the same road constantly, how is that fun?!
It’s not.
It’s also largely bks that a loud bike helps people know they’re there before they see them. The sound within a car is rarely directional and easy to locate, and if you’re relying on people hearing you rather than seeing you you’re probably travelling too fast anyway.
All summed up by ‘I have loud bikes because I like the way they sound’.
That’s fine. Just don’t be surprised when other people don’t and actions are taken to clamp down on it.
It’s also largely b
ks that a loud bike helps people know they’re there before they see them. The sound within a car is rarely directional and easy to locate, and if you’re relying on people hearing you rather than seeing you you’re probably travelling too fast anyway. All summed up by ‘I have loud bikes because I like the way they sound’.
That’s fine. Just don’t be surprised when other people don’t and actions are taken to clamp down on it.
Gweeds said:
It’s not.
It’s also largely bks that a loud bike helps people know they’re there before they see them. The sound within a car is rarely directional and easy to locate, and if you’re relying on people hearing you rather than seeing you you’re probably travelling too fast anyway.
All summed up by ‘I have loud bikes because I like the way they sound’.
That’s fine. Just don’t be surprised when other people don’t and actions are taken to clamp down on it.
To be fair I find a loud bike an absolute God-send on my commute. It’s certainly saved me from a few bumps by inattentive drivers.It’s also largely b
ks that a loud bike helps people know they’re there before they see them. The sound within a car is rarely directional and easy to locate, and if you’re relying on people hearing you rather than seeing you you’re probably travelling too fast anyway. All summed up by ‘I have loud bikes because I like the way they sound’.
That’s fine. Just don’t be surprised when other people don’t and actions are taken to clamp down on it.
All bikes can be loud, they come equipped with a noise increaser as standard, ready for whenever you think some other road user needs alerted to your presence. Easily activated when required by a simple push button mechanism and saves the need to spend significant sums on permanent exhaust amplifiers.
hiccy18 said:
All bikes can be loud, they come equipped with a noise increaser as standard, ready for whenever you think some other road user needs alerted to your presence. Easily activated when required by a simple push button mechanism and saves the need to spend significant sums on permanent exhaust amplifiers.
I’m not going to filter through traffic beeping anyone who looks like they’re are about to make a daft move, I can also blip the throttle a lot quicker than I can push the horn.KTMsm said:
I'm glad to see you're paying as much attention as usual...
we were talking about a standard bike
and whether it is reasonable to ask all the bikes to be silenced to new bike levels
Easy now - nobody asked for bikes to be silenced down. we were talking about a standard bike
and whether it is reasonable to ask all the bikes to be silenced to new bike levels
It's about loud noise where it's
It's not about killing the joys (including engine noise) a motorbike gives; it's about what bikers can do to stop that from happening.
At the same time, what does make you think that you're an offender with a standard bike? I don't see a problem by using a 88db/77db bike.
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