Bikes now banned in the Pyrenees
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I’m planning a trip there later this year so I hope it’s all blarney
However, I did have an Akra on my previous GS & to be honest it was anti social & in reality there was no benefit . The guys I rode with complained when I was ahead so I took it off. It made no difference to performance when it went.
I’m now firmly in the ‘what a twot ’ camp when I hear one
However, I did have an Akra on my previous GS & to be honest it was anti social & in reality there was no benefit . The guys I rode with complained when I was ahead so I took it off. It made no difference to performance when it went.
I’m now firmly in the ‘what a twot ’ camp when I hear one
Chozza said:
Any one actually found a link to the ban ?
There are a lot of recent "news" but nothing that links to the original statement , everything circle back to the interest group - so is this just a pre-emptive press release
Alt Pirineu Natural Park - is mentioned in August on the Moto de Campo site ... and an lot of the words in the article appear to come from that site.. but that is describing a draft proposal for a small area that bans certain db levels at various times whilst a study is undertaken ( at this point my Spanish fails me and google translate is no better )
Here's a newer article https://www.femamotorcycling.eu/motorcycles-banned... linking to this https://mediambient.gencat.cat/es/05_ambits_dactua... providing a PDF https://mediambient.gencat.cat/web/.content/home/a...There are a lot of recent "news" but nothing that links to the original statement , everything circle back to the interest group - so is this just a pre-emptive press release
Alt Pirineu Natural Park - is mentioned in August on the Moto de Campo site ... and an lot of the words in the article appear to come from that site.. but that is describing a draft proposal for a small area that bans certain db levels at various times whilst a study is undertaken ( at this point my Spanish fails me and google translate is no better )
Bodo said:
Here's a newer article https://www.femamotorcycling.eu/motorcycles-banned... linking to this https://mediambient.gencat.cat/es/05_ambits_dactua... providing a PDF https://mediambient.gencat.cat/web/.content/home/a...
It is still a reference back to june last year which states that there is the intention to submit a zone within the Natural Park as a ZEPQA, following the declared process.. It doesnt appear to be the request to create a zone nor the approval. It does look like its trying to prevent Offroad motorbikes within a specific zone.. rather than bikes travelling on the road
Chozza said:
Bodo said:
Here's a newer article https://www.femamotorcycling.eu/motorcycles-banned... linking to this https://mediambient.gencat.cat/es/05_ambits_dactua... providing a PDF https://mediambient.gencat.cat/web/.content/home/a...
It is still a reference back to june last year which states that there is the intention to submit a zone within the Natural Park as a ZEPQA, following the declared process.. It doesnt appear to be the request to create a zone nor the approval. It does look like its trying to prevent Offroad motorbikes within a specific zone.. rather than bikes travelling on the roadMy understanding is that it includes all non-urban areas; ie. also the roads between villages.
iidentifyaswoke said:
Canon_Fodder said:
A good trend.
bellends banished and rightly so
I think I’ve missed something. If a small number of people do something wrong, we need to ban everyone?bellends banished and rightly so
So for example, we need to ban passenger air travel, due to behaviour of some, usually intoxicated, passengers?
I am a bit on the fence with this whole subject - I like the sound of nice bikes (as I would imagine most here in the biking section of a forum would), but can equally imagine that the constant sound of them would be annoying when trying to enjoy the outdoors, be that out walking somewhere or in your garden.
I make no exception however for:
a) s
t farty sounding straight through low capacity single cylinder bikes. Your bike sounds st, don’t advertise it.
b) people who complain about noise when they choose to move to the vicinity of a race track - the race track was there before your house was, so if you don’t like it, fk off somewhere else.
Ultimately, there is existing legislation there which should be enough to control this (Brexit/UK equivalence aside) - E Marking. If you have an E Marked exhaust, it should meet the necessary noise criteria. If you don’t, then well…
Banning bikes wholesale from areas should not be the solution - it’s a lazy, voter-pleasing political tactic that will impact the 99% of people who aren’t a problem now, and won’t impact the 1% who are the problem because they will continue to ignore it anyway. Plus, you try banning bikes from particular areas and you wait see how many bikes’ number plates start “falling off”…
I make no exception however for:
a) s
t farty sounding straight through low capacity single cylinder bikes. Your bike sounds st, don’t advertise it. b) people who complain about noise when they choose to move to the vicinity of a race track - the race track was there before your house was, so if you don’t like it, f
k off somewhere else. Ultimately, there is existing legislation there which should be enough to control this (Brexit/UK equivalence aside) - E Marking. If you have an E Marked exhaust, it should meet the necessary noise criteria. If you don’t, then well…
Banning bikes wholesale from areas should not be the solution - it’s a lazy, voter-pleasing political tactic that will impact the 99% of people who aren’t a problem now, and won’t impact the 1% who are the problem because they will continue to ignore it anyway. Plus, you try banning bikes from particular areas and you wait see how many bikes’ number plates start “falling off”…
I did an off-road jolly in Southern Spain some 10 years ago. We were a group of 15 with an expat tour guide. Bikes were KTM 450, some 2 strokes & several Honda off road things - all on standard pipes. I was amazed that you can ride pretty much everywhere, including farms, forests, olive groves, mountain trails & through tiny settlements with only dirt track access. Who knows what the locals make of it all, but it was loud & threw up clouds of dust.
I hope there is no mission creep & this sort of thing gets banned as well....
I hope there is no mission creep & this sort of thing gets banned as well....
I'm lucky enough to live here. As far as I'm aware it's one dirt road - between refugi de fornet and refugi montgarri in the alt Pirineu natural park, and proberbly rightly so. It's a lovely place to walk and not have dirt bikes tearing past. - 4x4 should be banned too.
Edited by 2wheelsjimmy on Sunday 9th April 09:57
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