BSB 2024 Grids

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Tam_Mullen

2,298 posts

173 months

Friday 19th April
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egor110 said:
You don't think bridewells going to play a part ?
He will play a part but he won't be a regular contender IMO.

chippy348

631 posts

148 months

Friday 19th April
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slopes said:
I still think it will be Glenn Irwins championship to lose but the OMG boys, Kent, Honda UK, FHO, ROKiT BMW, Skinner and O Halloran will have something to say about it.

Going to be a great season i think
I just think the OMG outfit has the better more stable team, PMB has had a bit of a shake up last year with Paul Passing, and this year they only running 1 bike which has got to have a negative on getting data.

Lets see how we are after round 3 Donington.

Zarco

17,887 posts

210 months

Friday 19th April
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Dukes have lost some revs this year too. BMW have less power also (I've heard 260bhp quoted for last season!).

Might not make much difference given the BSB tracks.

trickywoo

11,818 posts

231 months

Friday 19th April
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chippy348 said:
slopes said:
I still think it will be Glenn Irwins championship to lose but the OMG boys, Kent, Honda UK, FHO, ROKiT BMW, Skinner and O Halloran will have something to say about it.

Going to be a great season i think
I just think the OMG outfit has the better more stable team, PMB has had a bit of a shake up last year with Paul Passing, and this year they only running 1 bike which has got to have a negative on getting data.

Lets see how we are after round 3 Donington.
I'd agree that its nowhere near GIR's championship to loose. He's top three but there is strong competition.

slopes

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38,829 posts

188 months

Friday 19th April
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egor110 said:
You don't think bridewells going to play a part ?
I did say Honda UK wink so yes i do but until he's been on the bike a year, he might well struggle especially if the Honda isnt up to speed like in WSBK.

slopes

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38,829 posts

188 months

Friday 19th April
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trickywoo said:
chippy348 said:
slopes said:
I still think it will be Glenn Irwins championship to lose but the OMG boys, Kent, Honda UK, FHO, ROKiT BMW, Skinner and O Halloran will have something to say about it.

Going to be a great season i think
I just think the OMG outfit has the better more stable team, PMB has had a bit of a shake up last year with Paul Passing, and this year they only running 1 bike which has got to have a negative on getting data.

Lets see how we are after round 3 Donington.
I'd agree that its nowhere near GIR's championship to loose. He's top three but there is strong competition.
I disagree but we shall soon see but you can't help but think, if he doesn't win it this year questions have to be asked.

Same goes for FHO, if they don't play a big part in this years championship then you would think questions might well be asked about why they can't feature at the sharp end. Especially if Haslam and Skinner do really well also, then you would epxect BMW to start asking what is going on.

But yes, after round 3 at Donington we should have a better idea of how the year will pan out.

trickywoo

11,818 posts

231 months

Friday 19th April
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slopes said:
I disagree but we shall soon see but you can't help but think, if he doesn't win it this year questions have to be asked.

Same goes for FHO, if they don't play a big part in this years championship then you would think questions might well be asked about why they can't feature at the sharp end. Especially if Haslam and Skinner do really well also, then you would epxect BMW to start asking what is going on.

But yes, after round 3 at Donington we should have a better idea of how the year will pan out.
Re FHO and BMW word on the street is that BMW know whats lacking in the current bike and is planning an entirely new one next year so I'm not sure expectations in house at the BWM team will be that high.

daniel-5zjw7

603 posts

102 months

Friday 19th April
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I've also been quite surprised at how many people are saying its Glens to lose. Despite the the team staying together and the bike being the dominant force last year, I don't believe this is the same PBM of years gone by in terms of budget etc. How are they going to be in terms of improving the bike as the year goes on compared to the likes of Honda?

I don't see any excuses for Honda or Yamaha to be seriously struggling against the Ducati this year, Ryde needs to have a big year and would be my choice if I had to pick the champion now.


TwinKam

2,987 posts

96 months

Friday 19th April
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slopes said:
I still think it will be Glenn Irwins championship to lose but the OMG boys, Kent, Honda UK, FHO, ROKiT BMW, Skinner and O Halloran will have something to say about it.

Going to be a great season i think
Your GI fanboy statement aside, is there actually anyone you've left out there? ...hedging your bets taken to a new level! rofl

TwinKam

2,987 posts

96 months

Friday 19th April
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daniel-5zjw7 said:
I've also been quite surprised at how many people are saying its Glens to lose. Despite the the team staying together and the bike being the dominant force last year, I don't believe this is the same PBM of years gone by in terms of budget etc. How are they going to be in terms of improving the bike as the year goes on compared to the likes of Honda?

I don't see any excuses for Honda or Yamaha to be seriously struggling against the Ducati this year, Ryde needs to have a big year and would be my choice if I had to pick the champion now.
This. The team formerly known as PBM has a much reduced budget, no experienced leadership, last year's bike and no new spares package. They may well start 2024 as strongly as they finished 2023, but I expect them to run out of puff.
Honda, on the other hand, are desperate for wins and have an unlimited budget to make themselves glorious on their new bike, their reputation (and sales) hangs on it. Why else do you think they went for last year's champ in addition to the two already on the books?
Yamaha have been quick out of the box for a number of years, O'Halloran throwing the championship away late season on more than one occasion, but Ryde is ready and able.
For me, as a wild card, Skinner on the BMW.

slopes

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38,829 posts

188 months

Friday 19th April
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TwinKam said:
slopes said:
I still think it will be Glenn Irwins championship to lose but the OMG boys, Kent, Honda UK, FHO, ROKiT BMW, Skinner and O Halloran will have something to say about it.

Going to be a great season i think
Your GI fanboy statement aside, is there actually anyone you've left out there? ...hedging your bets taken to a new level! rofl
Plenty and i am far from a GI fanboy, if i am a fan of anyone it would either be Bridewell or Hickman but i'm also realistic to understand that they probbably won't feature in the top three come the end of the year

smile

Turn7

23,618 posts

222 months

Friday 19th April
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Im a big Hicky supporter, but I think his life is the TT and then running PHR, BSB is to keep him sharp and in the limelight I think.

I suspect the focus required to nail the title is a lot more than he can give when the TT is foremost in his mind.

Going to be an interesting year, and for me, I think its time Kyle came to the fore and showed his ability.

slopes

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38,829 posts

188 months

Friday 19th April
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Turn7 said:
Im a big Hicky supporter, but I think his life is the TT and then running PHR, BSB is to keep him sharp and in the limelight I think.

I suspect the focus required to nail the title is a lot more than he can give when the TT is foremost in his mind.

Going to be an interesting year, and for me, I think its time Kyle came to the fore and showed his ability.
I think there are a lot of people who have to deliver this year and some who will be hungry and eyeing up the bigger rides.

I agree about Hicky but part of him wants to do well on the mainland as well as far as i remember from an interview a few years ago.

graeme4130

3,829 posts

182 months

Friday 19th April
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Zarco said:
Dukes have lost some revs this year too. BMW have less power also (I've heard 260bhp quoted for last season!).

Might not make much difference given the BSB tracks.
Power reduction won't have a big impact on UK tracks. I've seen Leon's data and he barely uses 100% throttle at most tracks in anything below 5th gear, and even when he does, he's using the back brake

graeme4130

3,829 posts

182 months

Friday 19th April
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To put my stake in the ground, I'd say Haslam has a good chance this year, as does Vickers and Glenn

For an outside Bet, Danny Kent is going to be very fast. He's a class act, and he's now on a bike that can compete with a newly very strong team behind it

It's a tough year to call though, but I will say that it's unlikely that Navarra performances will be anything like representative of how the season will pan out

Zarco

17,887 posts

210 months

Friday 19th April
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Personally if I had to call it, I'm finding it hard to look past anyone on a V4R, let alone the guy that finished a very close runner up last year.


Drabbesttunic

1,261 posts

41 months

Friday 19th April
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So a quick read of the thread pretty much suggests anyone can win it laugh

Zarco

17,887 posts

210 months

Friday 19th April
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Drabbesttunic said:
So a quick read of the thread pretty much suggests anyone can win it laugh
Welcome to BSB biggrin

TwinKam

2,987 posts

96 months

Friday 19th April
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The 2024 BSB grid is now settled.
So shall we start a new thread for the actual racing?...
Let the competition begin, and may the best man win.

trickywoo

11,818 posts

231 months

Saturday 20th April
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TwinKam said:
The 2024 BSB grid is now settled.
So shall we start a new thread for the actual racing?...
Let the competition begin, and may the best man win.
Good idea.

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