Racefit & V.loud pipes
Discussion
Racefit pipes exemplify the anti social side of biking that fuels the fire for those that oppose our greatest, most exciting and exhilarating of pursuits. To fit one of their pipes not only goes to show how little you value the longevity of the biking community as we know it today but also your total disregard for all others who may not wish to hear an absolute crescendo of internal combustion at its best (i.e. the vast majority). Whilst they may hold high aesthetic appeal, which I do not contest, the antithesis of this is the bad feeling towards bikers that they can create amongst the general community and law enforcement agencies. Acceptance and glamorisation of these and other similar exhaust systems within the biking community will ultimately lead to more draconian laws being applied to how we modify our machines. The vast majority choose to fit slightly louder than OE systems which in general go un-noticed, it’s the minority that fit anti socially loud exhausts that will lead to a change in law.
So while you think that your Racefit Growler or slash cut looks cool, you are actually building a case for the opposition to apply more stringent controls to bikes. I do not find that cool at all. In fact you could have the same effect by writing to your local politician and asking that all bikes with loud pipes be banned. Its not like they make anymore power than quieter systems, they clearly do not and you can’t even do track days with them on. So for all our sakes fit an aftermarket system that complies with at least trackday noise regulations and hopefully we will be free to modify our bikes for as long as we want to ride them.
So while you think that your Racefit Growler or slash cut looks cool, you are actually building a case for the opposition to apply more stringent controls to bikes. I do not find that cool at all. In fact you could have the same effect by writing to your local politician and asking that all bikes with loud pipes be banned. Its not like they make anymore power than quieter systems, they clearly do not and you can’t even do track days with them on. So for all our sakes fit an aftermarket system that complies with at least trackday noise regulations and hopefully we will be free to modify our bikes for as long as we want to ride them.
Hobo said:
Well I have a racefit pipe on the R6 & its no louder than stock.
May be advisable not to tar everyone with the same brush.
Well that would be the 1st RF pipe ever not to be louder than OE, must have been manufactured badly as I fail to see how it could be quieter than a can that meets the Euro regs by a firm who's business model is creating minimalist pipes with maximum noise. If I were you I'd ask for my money back.May be advisable not to tar everyone with the same brush.
zerofighter said:
Hobo said:
Well I have a racefit pipe on the R6 & its no louder than stock.
May be advisable not to tar everyone with the same brush.
Well that would be the 1st RF pipe ever not to be louder than OE, must have been manufactured badly as I fail to see how it could be quieter than a can that meets the Euro regs by a firm who's business model is creating minimalist pipes with maximum noise. If I were you I'd ask for my money back.May be advisable not to tar everyone with the same brush.
zerofighter said:
Well the racefit I had on my gsxr1000 was exceptionally loud so I had to sell it. Every other RF pipe I've heard has been of the same ilk and the slash cuts are even worse. I haven't heard one on an r6 but I'll take your word that they are quite, this must be an exception.
Yea, they can be noisy, mate has a "growler" on an ZX10, and it is well over the top.John.
Chilli said:
Mate, if you commuted into the City of London in rush hour every day, a noisy can could save your life. Many (or even most) people may hear you before they see you. Safety first...it just makes sense.
yes but nearly all the sound is behind the bike. As you approach a car from behind even with a loud pipe you'll hardly (if at all) be heard if the car has the windows closed and the hifi on moderate volume.Nothing new, this debate has being going on since I started motorcycling in the early 80’s.
Im not sure how you can stop it really, if motorcycling where to be banned it would be over “other” concerns such as road safety and not noise but I agree it doesn’t help our cause.
However now im a bit more mature in years I prefer a standard pipe for one reason alone, plod cant hear you coming from miles away and await your arrival..Perhaps it’s an age thing!
I do appreciate a decent race pipe thou and if you have a V twin it’s the (motorcycling) law that you’ve got to have a decent set of aftermarket cans on it!
Im not sure how you can stop it really, if motorcycling where to be banned it would be over “other” concerns such as road safety and not noise but I agree it doesn’t help our cause.
However now im a bit more mature in years I prefer a standard pipe for one reason alone, plod cant hear you coming from miles away and await your arrival..Perhaps it’s an age thing!
I do appreciate a decent race pipe thou and if you have a V twin it’s the (motorcycling) law that you’ve got to have a decent set of aftermarket cans on it!
Must confess my cans are that loud it sets cars alarms off and makes my ears bleed, brings a smile to my face every time I start it........I apologise if this noise offends anyone but if a bike with an end can comes past me it makes me smile, worse case scenario we can all move to the Isle of Man.
Edited by 996 sps on Tuesday 7th August 09:23
Chilli said:
Mate, if you commuted into the City of London in rush hour every day, a noisy can could save your life. Many (or even most) people may hear you before they see you. Safety first...it just makes sense.
Absolutely agree with Nick, my Akrapovic cans are fairly loud that I know I'm heard ....I have been pulled over by the BiB's a couple of times and asked why I have race cans, my answer is so that other road users know I'm there....their answer is fair enough!Edited by Andy OH on Tuesday 7th August 10:10
Silver993tt said:
yes but nearly all the sound is behind the bike. As you approach a car from behind even with a loud pipe you'll hardly (if at all) be heard if the car has the windows closed and the hifi on moderate volume.
Good point. The only way people infront of you would hear the cans would be if the sound has something to resonate, like if you were in a tunnel or filtering through dense traffic.Then again, if you're filtering through dense traffic, I imagine peak revs would be lower and further reduce the audible effect.
Chilli said:
Mate, if you commuted into the City of London in rush hour every day, a noisy can could save your life. Many (or even most) people may hear you before they see you. Safety first...it just makes sense.
Couldn't agree with you more Chilli.My race cans on the TL (although, probably a little over the top at 129db) have saved my life more times than i can count. Also worth there weight in gold when STUPID road users inevitably do something bloomin thick and have there window down. Quick tap on the kill switch... blat blat BANG
This country has got freaking crazy with all these rules and regulations. Limiting everything we do - a little minority rebellion never hurt anybody.
zerofighter said:
Racefit pipes exemplify the anti social side of biking that fuels the fire for those that oppose our greatest, most exciting and exhilarating of pursuits. To fit one of their pipes not only goes to show how little you value the longevity of the biking community as we know it today but also your total disregard for all others who may not wish to hear an absolute crescendo of internal combustion at its best (i.e. the vast majority). Whilst they may hold high aesthetic appeal, which I do not contest, the antithesis of this is the bad feeling towards bikers that they can create amongst the general community and law enforcement agencies. Acceptance and glamorisation of these and other similar exhaust systems within the biking community will ultimately lead to more draconian laws being applied to how we modify our machines. The vast majority choose to fit slightly louder than OE systems which in general go un-noticed, it’s the minority that fit anti socially loud exhausts that will lead to a change in law.
So while you think that your Racefit Growler or slash cut looks cool, you are actually building a case for the opposition to apply more stringent controls to bikes. I do not find that cool at all. In fact you could have the same effect by writing to your local politician and asking that all bikes with loud pipes be banned. Its not like they make anymore power than quieter systems, they clearly do not and you can’t even do track days with them on. So for all our sakes fit an aftermarket system that complies with at least trackday noise regulations and hopefully we will be free to modify our bikes for as long as we want to ride them.
Mate you're on drugs if you think anything that is done in society makes a heap of difference to the legislators. So while you think that your Racefit Growler or slash cut looks cool, you are actually building a case for the opposition to apply more stringent controls to bikes. I do not find that cool at all. In fact you could have the same effect by writing to your local politician and asking that all bikes with loud pipes be banned. Its not like they make anymore power than quieter systems, they clearly do not and you can’t even do track days with them on. So for all our sakes fit an aftermarket system that complies with at least trackday noise regulations and hopefully we will be free to modify our bikes for as long as we want to ride them.
Nevermind my race exhaust I think plod might have more of an issue with the fact that I can't ride below 120 on a GSXR Thou.
In the grand scheme a noisey pipe is the last of their worries...
Zerofighter you have this as your website http://www.adrenalinecrew.com/
yeah looks your really against noisy exhausts?!
is this thread a wind-up?
yeah looks your really against noisy exhausts?!
is this thread a wind-up?
Edited by y2blade on Tuesday 7th August 11:35
Each to their own, but I'm only interested in Road Legal pipes on any of my bikes. Its cool when you're in the right mood but I find the noise irritating after even a short while. Now when is someone gonna invent the solenoid race can like the Porsche sports exhaust system???? Then you could switch it on or off as desired. I'd def have one of those.
Personally not having a race exhaust means that the police or other busy bodies can't hear you giving it death 2 miles away, I personally prefer the stealth approach to this accordingly.
Personally not having a race exhaust means that the police or other busy bodies can't hear you giving it death 2 miles away, I personally prefer the stealth approach to this accordingly.
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