Yamaha/R1 specialist in the Central South

Yamaha/R1 specialist in the Central South

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308mate

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13,757 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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Are there R1 riders in Dorset or Hampshire who know of a good R1 mechanic?

Preferrably the type who works or has worked for a Yam dealer but now works for himself or does cash work out of hours.

Mine needs some attention and Im hacked off with sub-standard service from the places youd expect to get results from. Like dealers or Yam specialists for example.... curse

y2blade

56,127 posts

216 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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what year/model is it? what sort of work does it need?

i dont have any contacts that are Yamaha "Specialists" but i do know a few people in the trade

308mate

Original Poster:

13,757 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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y2blade said:
what year/model is it? what sort of work does it need?

i dont have any contacts that are Yamaha "Specialists" but i do know a few people in the trade
Its an '04 R1 (underseat pipe jobbie).

I need a new front tyre, to find out why the brakes are shite and put a new chain and sprockets on it.


Biker's Nemesis

38,711 posts

209 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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308mate said:
y2blade said:
what year/model is it? what sort of work does it need?

i dont have any contacts that are Yamaha "Specialists" but i do know a few people in the trade
Its an '04 R1 (underseat pipe jobbie).

I need a new front tyre, to find out why the brakes are shite and put a new chain and sprockets on it.
I upgraded my pads to EBC HH, and changed the brake line, Carbon/Kevlar. Can't say that they were bad too start with though.

Your bike probably needs, at the minimum, a fluid and pad change, both jobs are fairly easy to do. Use a syringe with a piece of clear flexible hose to draw the fluid from the master cylinder, after that top up with new fluid, and then place the pipe on the bleed nipple, master cylinder first. Pull the syringe open and this will draw out fluid/air bubbles, repeat with the calipers, until you have a firm lever.

When the pads are out, give the pistons a clean with a cloth covered in WD/40, or similar.

As I said above, the brakes on mine are very good with the EBC pads and lines. Oh, I change the fluid/clean the pistons at the start of each year.


John.

y2blade

56,127 posts

216 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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Biker's Nemesis said:
308mate said:
y2blade said:
what year/model is it? what sort of work does it need?

i dont have any contacts that are Yamaha "Specialists" but i do know a few people in the trade
Its an '04 R1 (underseat pipe jobbie).

I need a new front tyre, to find out why the brakes are shite and put a new chain and sprockets on it.
I upgraded my pads to EBC HH, and changed the brake line, Carbon/Kevlar. Can't say that they were bad too start with though.

Your bike probably needs, at the minimum, a fluid and pad change, both jobs are fairly easy to do. Use a syringe with a piece of clear flexible hose to draw the fluid from the master cylinder, after that top up with new fluid, and then place the pipe on the bleed nipple, master cylinder first. Pull the syringe open and this will draw out fluid/air bubbles, repeat with the calipers, until you have a firm lever.

When the pads are out, give the pistons a clean with a cloth covered in WD/40, or similar.

As I said above, the brakes on mine are very good with the EBC pads and lines. Oh, I change the fluid/clean the pistons at the start of each year.


John.
seconded HTH

R1_NUR

1,087 posts

251 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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Jeez - I am no mechanic but could do those jobs. I thought you were after something more tricky.

Tamworth Yamaha (too far north for you probably are just brilliant.)

http://www.tamworthyamaha.com/

y2blade

56,127 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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if your set on paying to have it done Give Crescent suzuki (near bournemouth) a ring (no there not yamaha specialists BUT there a good bunch), you can trust there work

Andy OH

1,906 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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308mate said:
y2blade said:
what year/model is it? what sort of work does it need?

i dont have any contacts that are Yamaha "Specialists" but i do know a few people in the trade
Its an '04 R1 (underseat pipe jobbie).

I need a new front tyre, to find out why the brakes are shite and put a new chain and sprockets on it.
Surely a front tyre, chain & sprockets should be able to be done by your local tyre place...it's not rocket science. As for your pads you can do them your self in about 20 minutes. All you need is a 12mm socket & rachet. The pads are held in by a cyclindrical stainless steel rod which is kept in place by retianing clips. Once removed clean up the caliper pistons, pop a bit of copper grease on the back of the pad and reassemble....simple as that!

Are you still using the OE pads as if you are they are rubbish, personally I use Bendix MRR pads but EBC HH as has been mentioned are also very good.....

Edited by Andy OH on Thursday 2nd August 09:34

308mate

Original Poster:

13,757 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Biker's Nemesis said:
308mate said:
y2blade said:
what year/model is it? what sort of work does it need?

i dont have any contacts that are Yamaha "Specialists" but i do know a few people in the trade
Its an '04 R1 (underseat pipe jobbie).

I need a new front tyre, to find out why the brakes are shite and put a new chain and sprockets on it.
I upgraded my pads to EBC HH, and changed the brake line, Carbon/Kevlar. Can't say that they were bad too start with though.

Your bike probably needs, at the minimum, a fluid and pad change, both jobs are fairly easy to do. Use a syringe with a piece of clear flexible hose to draw the fluid from the master cylinder, after that top up with new fluid, and then place the pipe on the bleed nipple, master cylinder first. Pull the syringe open and this will draw out fluid/air bubbles, repeat with the calipers, until you have a firm lever.

When the pads are out, give the pistons a clean with a cloth covered in WD/40, or similar.

As I said above, the brakes on mine are very good with the EBC pads and lines. Oh, I change the fluid/clean the pistons at the start of each year.


John.
Im definitely keen to change the pads. I can bleed the brakes, I just dont like doing it. Its part laziness and its part because its not second nature to me and that thought worries me when Im trying to haul it down from 150 coming up to a roundabout (not that I would ever do that), so I like to give it to guys for whom it is second nature and pay some money.

The lever is firm to start with but get spongy about mid way through a ride. So Im thinking its the fluid. Trouble is, its done this ever since its service, when I was promised the fluid was changed. I also had braided lines fitted since then - no improvement. One reason Im not that keen to take it back there.

y2blade

56,127 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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308mate said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
308mate said:
y2blade said:
what year/model is it? what sort of work does it need?

i dont have any contacts that are Yamaha "Specialists" but i do know a few people in the trade
Its an '04 R1 (underseat pipe jobbie).

I need a new front tyre, to find out why the brakes are shite and put a new chain and sprockets on it.
I upgraded my pads to EBC HH, and changed the brake line, Carbon/Kevlar. Can't say that they were bad too start with though.

Your bike probably needs, at the minimum, a fluid and pad change, both jobs are fairly easy to do. Use a syringe with a piece of clear flexible hose to draw the fluid from the master cylinder, after that top up with new fluid, and then place the pipe on the bleed nipple, master cylinder first. Pull the syringe open and this will draw out fluid/air bubbles, repeat with the calipers, until you have a firm lever.

When the pads are out, give the pistons a clean with a cloth covered in WD/40, or similar.

As I said above, the brakes on mine are very good with the EBC pads and lines. Oh, I change the fluid/clean the pistons at the start of each year.


John.
Im definitely keen to change the pads. I can bleed the brakes, I just dont like doing it. Its part laziness and its part because its not second nature to me and that thought worries me when Im trying to haul it down from 150 coming up to a roundabout (not that I would ever do that), so I like to give it to guys for whom it is second nature and pay some money.

The lever is firm to start with but get spongy about mid way through a ride. So Im thinking its the fluid. Trouble is, its done this ever since its service, when I was promised the fluid was changed. I also had braided lines fitted since then - no improvement. One reason Im not that keen to take it back there.
get Crescent Suzuki (nr Bournemouth)to sort it out for you then mate


you can trust there work

Momentofmadness

2,364 posts

242 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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308mate said:
The lever is firm to start with but get spongy about mid way through a ride.
Could be you are overheating the brake pads, maybe a changed to sintered pads would do the trick smile

308mate

Original Poster:

13,757 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Andy OH said:
308mate said:
y2blade said:
what year/model is it? what sort of work does it need?

i dont have any contacts that are Yamaha "Specialists" but i do know a few people in the trade
Its an '04 R1 (underseat pipe jobbie).

I need a new front tyre, to find out why the brakes are shite and put a new chain and sprockets on it.
Surely a front tyre, chain & sprockets should be able to be done by your local tyre place...it's not rocket science. As for your pads you can do them your self in about 20 minutes. All you need is a 12mm socket & rachet. The pads are held in by a cyclindrical stainless steel rod which is kept in place by retianing clips. Once removed clean up the caliper pistons, pop a bit of copper grease on the back of the pad and reassemble....simple as that!

Are you still using the OE pads as if you are they are rubbish, personally I use Bendix MRR pads but EBC HH as has been mentioned are also very good.....

Edited by Andy OH on Thursday 2nd August 09:34
You would think so wouldnt you? The shop where I have had this stuff done in the past have so far:

  • fitted some discs round the wrong way, resulting in boiled liquid and brake failure on a track day
  • failed to tighten a brake bleed nipple, resulting in no brakes 1 mile up the road
  • left my bike with a sticky throttle because of poorly adjusted levers after fitting braided lines. Despite insisting it was road tested, I couldnt even get it out of their driveway cause i had to wind the throttle back manually everytime I turned it
  • have marked the shit out of my OE black rims EVERYTIME they put a tyre on it (that wont be happening anymore either)
  • the bike and handlebars are left greasy each time it goes in
etc etc.

Hence Im looking for alternatives or places where other people have had good experiences.

I could try Crescents, Is there any danger of them being indifferent to non-suzukis?


y2blade

56,127 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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308mate said:
I could try Crescents, Is there any danger of them being indifferent to non-suzukis?
no chance at all,you can trust them.......give them a call

01202820170

smile

308mate

Original Poster:

13,757 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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y2blade said:
308mate said:
I could try Crescents, Is there any danger of them being indifferent to non-suzukis?
no chance at all,you can trust them.......give them a call

01202820170

smile
Do you have shares in them?

You are Chiefy from Crescents and AICMFP!

Biker's Nemesis

38,711 posts

209 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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If they have fitted braided lines, I would bet on it, that you have air trapped somewhere. My guess is that it will be in the master cylinder.

O4 R1's came standard with "GG" pads, which are OK for the road. I've tried Bendix, but prefer the EBC HH. I use them on my track bike, and they perform excellent from cold, wet or dry, and no fade what so ever.

308mate

Original Poster:

13,757 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Biker's Nemesis said:
If they have fitted braided lines, I would bet on it, that you have air trapped somewhere. My guess is that it will be in the master cylinder.

O4 R1's came standard with "GG" pads, which are OK for the road. I've tried Bendix, but prefer the EBC HH. I use them on my track bike, and they perform excellent from cold, wet or dry, and no fade what so ever.
Thanks for the tip thumbup

y2blade

56,127 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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308mate said:
Do you have shares in them?

You are Chiefy from Crescents and AICMFP!
NO..NO..and NO
you asked for someone reliable/reputable to do the work on your bike!

you can either take my recomendation or not...no skin of my nose

just trying to help smile

308mate

Original Poster:

13,757 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
quotequote all
y2blade said:
308mate said:
Do you have shares in them?

You are Chiefy from Crescents and AICMFP!
NO..NO..and NO
you asked for someone reliable/reputable to do the work on your bike!

you can either take my recomendation or not...no skin of my nose

just trying to help smile
Easy up fella, I were jus joshin wi yer. wink

y2blade

56,127 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
quotequote all
308mate said:
y2blade said:
308mate said:
Do you have shares in them?

You are Chiefy from Crescents and AICMFP!
NO..NO..and NO
you asked for someone reliable/reputable to do the work on your bike!

you can either take my recomendation or not...no skin of my nose

just trying to help smile
Easy up fella, I were jus joshin wi yer. wink
biggrin no problem biggrin

Biker's Nemesis

38,711 posts

209 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
quotequote all
y2blade said:
308mate said:
y2blade said:
308mate said:
Do you have shares in them?

You are Chiefy from Crescents and AICMFP!
NO..NO..and NO
you asked for someone reliable/reputable to do the work on your bike!

you can either take my recomendation or not...no skin of my nose

just trying to help smile
Easy up fella, I were jus joshin wi yer. wink
biggrin no problem biggrin
I agree with y2blade, Crescent have an excellent reputation.