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archie456

423 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Don't laugh, but I know someone who genuinely has an MR2 with 620bhp at the wheels.

It runs a quarter mile in 11.? seconds at 128mph, and until recently it looked totally standard. I'll get him to wear a cap if you like!!

There are clearly some very quick cars out there, as well as all the crap ones.


Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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have to admit when i've been in cars & seen a nice bike i do try to tempt them as a bike ridden hard sounds bloody lovely

IforB

9,840 posts

230 months

Friday 3rd August 2007
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I had a chav/ned trying to have a race the other afternoon. I'd pulled alongside him at a queue of traffic, which he didn't like. Stopped at the light and he decided to start revving the nuts off the engine of his ford shite box GTI along with nudging forward towards me. Then I heard the insults coming my way. "Poof Bikers, etc.etc..."

A quick rev to 8000rpm, with carbon termi's and nice Duke twin whilst 6 inches away from his open window seemed to do the trick!

Pulled away , but he caught up due to the 30 limit. He then tried lots of dodgy overtaking manouvres, but oncoming traffic spoilt his fun, until we came to a NSL. Nice straight bit of road, so I clicked down and rolled off the throttle until he tried to overtake and then I gassed it with a nice single digit wave backwards. Byeeee!

1.6 Focus V 748 Duke. Even in 6th it wouldn't have been a fair test. I don't know how small his knob must have been, but I'll lay bets it was pretty goddamn tiny! He was driving like such a muppet, ragging off into the distance was probably the safest thing to do.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Friday 3rd August 2007
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in that situation i miss my old discovery. side exit exhaust & a turned up fuel pump = hoooge cloud of smoke in his open window when i launched it & they (as always) miss the lights changing smile

Pugsey

5,813 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd August 2007
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996 sps said:
Whats happening with these chav car drivers, me and my brother went for a ride last night. Bedfordshire to Oxford and we had a Ford Focus and a 106GTI both driven by baseball capped divs see us behind them see a gap in traffic and knew we was going to overtake and without indicating do a stupid overtake move themselves, at about 30-40 mph and thrashing their cars as if they where going to leave my bruvs Busa and my Duke.

Why do they do that? Even when I was growing up with my RS Turbo R5 Turbo and 535I I knew the bike was quicker and moved to the left.

Have these lads had no education? Does it need introducing at school prior to getting car licence? Or shall we place an advert in Max Power?
Listen mate you've got it easy! - you think you've got problems then pity the poor guy in a decent car in your situation. You can be held up for ever as the little buggers use up every overtaking manouver pulling out and staggering along ahead of you for miles - no doubt telling their mates latter how they dusted a Fezza/Porsche whatever. At least a biker only needs a small gap to get the drop on the buggers.

Recently come back to biking after many moons away with a 97 Hornet - well it's b***dy fast to me thanks and I got the front wheel two inches off the ground in a God like manner the other day! - and can't believe how much easier it is to 'make progress'.wink

black-k1

11,936 posts

230 months

Friday 3rd August 2007
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Chilli said:
Cooky said:
y2blade said:
Cooky said:
not wanting to sound off but the same can be said some some bikers too, I wish I'd had a quid for everytime I'd been held up in the Tiv by some wannabee Randy Mamola yes
i come across those in my T5 aswell biggrin wobbling around like gheylords all dressed up like power rangers

they may well have only just lost there stabilisers ...so give them room when you pass them hehe
naturaly, two car widths, conditions permitting, it's such a shame you don't get to see their facial expressions as you lift off the loud pedal for a second and give 'em some spit-back hehe

we were all some kind of 'boy raver' once...hell I still am to some extent with a Cerb and a ZX10... in my yoof it was minis, escorts and capris, let's cut them a bit of slack every now and then wink
Totally agree, we've all been there clap
Indeed, I'm sure we've all done this sort of thing before. As long as what they are doing is not down right stupid (in which case it would be a good idea to not get involved) then we should all allow for the exuberance of youth.

Bizzle

544 posts

202 months

Friday 3rd August 2007
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I really think it's unfair to put focus this on age. I have been in situations both on the bike and in the car when i have come up against idiots on OTHER bikes and in maxxed up cars who have caused me haste. A lot of those people were not 17 year old wombats but fully grown adults. Admittedly they were from the wrong side of the demographic line, but i would have expected age and maturity to account for something.

Speed is very relative depending on what you drive. If your 19 and have gone from a 1.2ltr corsa to a 1.8ltr turbo 200sx or similar, it's going to feel like a bloomin F430. This is very evident in the Jap community when people think that a 400bhp Nissan/Toyota import is the fastest thing on the roads. To be honest, it's a very rapid vehicle - however few of them have ever experienced supercar power & speeds (or bills, cough...)

Many people i know are between 20 - 25 and run high powered, well built performance tuned vehicles. Furthermore, they are extremely technically knowledgeable about them. They enjoy the cars/bikes in the same way that other adults do (maybe with a little more exuberance on occasion)

It's unfair to tarnish all with the same brush.

slim_boy_fat

735 posts

240 months

Friday 3rd August 2007
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sjtscott said:
y2blade said:
i just dont think they realise what a bike is capable of


i know a few people like that ,they drive half tasty cars and are totaly oblivious to "REAL" speed
I think you hit the nail on the head! So many of my non biking mates really have no clue how utterly slow cars are in accelerating in comparison.

This is even funnier though....
I was laughing at a courier yesterday who'd chaved up his cbr125 (no L plates) with lots of aftermarket tat including a loud exhaust, riding using his full acceleration of his awesome machine trying to beat me on a cbr600. He only tried the cheeky 'I'm pulling in front of you' at the light move twice before he was fully dispatched as I had sufficient space never to be seen again. lol
What i find funny is that you rise to the bait.

You must be well chuffed out gunning a cbr125. Well done...

y2blade

56,127 posts

216 months

Friday 3rd August 2007
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Bizzle said:
I really think it's unfair to put focus this on age.
in my experiance its not limited to youngsters!!!!

D_T_W

2,502 posts

216 months

Friday 3rd August 2007
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i'll happily put my hands up and admit when i was younger i got a certain kick out of baiting bikers. My old subaru was fairly quick, but nothing compare to a well ridden bike, and i knew it. It didn't however stop me having a go, and 9 times out of 10 the boys on the bikes would be happy to oblige! Now i've passed my test i find myself on the other side of the coin, with young guys in cars trying to see if they can beat me. I simply don't have the experiance to hammer round the bends, and i refuse to be pushed faster than i feel comfortable, on saying that though i can still get round them fairly quickly and show a clean pair of heels to some run of the mill stuff. However, show me a wiff of a straight and i'll quite happily give a demonstration in power to weight!

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

264 months

Friday 3rd August 2007
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Conian said:
y2blade said:
i just dont think they realise what a bike is capable of


i know a few people like that ,they drive half tasty cars and are totaly oblivious to "REAL" speed
I like the way they have no clue about BHP either...

Yes little boy... your 136 BHP is a manufactures quoted figure... of a specially selected and balanced and brand new engine AT THE CRANK... my 135BHP is a dyno confirmed figuer AT THE BACK WHEEL! Yours is not more powerful!

..... but mine's got 136bhp
  • slap*
Not to mention that their car weighs around a Tonne, whereas the bike weighs about 175kg!

slim_boy_fat

735 posts

240 months

Saturday 4th August 2007
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archie456 said:
Don't laugh, but I know someone who genuinely has an MR2 with 620bhp at the wheels.

It runs a quarter mile in 11.? seconds at 128mph, and until recently it looked totally standard. I'll get him to wear a cap if you like!!

There are clearly some very quick cars out there, as well as all the crap ones.
Cough cough splutter, 'bullsh1t' cough.


archie456

423 posts

223 months

Saturday 4th August 2007
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slim_boy_fat said:
archie456 said:
Don't laugh, but I know someone who genuinely has an MR2 with 620bhp at the wheels.

It runs a quarter mile in 11.? seconds at 128mph, and until recently it looked totally standard. I'll get him to wear a cap if you like!!

There are clearly some very quick cars out there, as well as all the crap ones.
Cough cough splutter, 'bullsh1t' cough.

I'm deadly serious, he's spent over 20k on the engine alone, from the crank upwards. It's a blown 3.4l V6 running 2 bar of boost. It was initially supercharged but ran out of steam at 580bhp, so it's now got a big turbo on it.

Cooky

4,955 posts

238 months

Saturday 4th August 2007
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archie456 said:
slim_boy_fat said:
archie456 said:
Don't laugh, but I know someone who genuinely has an MR2 with 620bhp at the wheels.

It runs a quarter mile in 11.? seconds at 128mph, and until recently it looked totally standard. I'll get him to wear a cap if you like!!

There are clearly some very quick cars out there, as well as all the crap ones.
Cough cough splutter, 'bullsh1t' cough.

I'm deadly serious, he's spent over 20k on the engine alone, from the crank upwards. It's a blown 3.4l V6 running 2 bar of boost. It was initially supercharged but ran out of steam at 580bhp, so it's now got a big turbo on it.
Yep, we've had a looney in our place having some serious oil and fuel lines made up for an MR2 running a cossie turbo. I don't see the point myself...but each to their own... hairdresser with attitude wink

YamR1V64motion

5,723 posts

225 months

Saturday 4th August 2007
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i find mk4 Golf GTIs at the traffic lights the worst for it, some(not all by any means) of thier owners seem to think they really do have a fast car, when on the bike i would either really launch it and leave them far behind if possible, or just shortshift really obviously to show i wasnt making much effort at all and was still pulling away from thier car, i remember been highly amused the other day while sitting behind one in the car-ok so it wasn the TDI this time which extends my stereotype a little, but he was getting ready to give it some away from a set of lights, the funny thing is, so was the Supercharged RR Sport in the next lane, he was in disbelief that a big 3 tonne 4*4 could possibly beat his super quick Golf off the lights!!.

MrMoonyMan

2,584 posts

212 months

Saturday 4th August 2007
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Hello there you bikeing chaps,

Been dipping into 'biker banter' for a little while as I am a bit interested in getting onto two wheels.

Anyhow, my reaction when I see a biker (ie. something quick not a silly 125cc/moped/harley) is always to try and get behind them so that I can then try using my midrange grunt to keep up from a safe distance. I will indicate that I've seen a biker by obviously moving from near the centre of the road to nearer the kerb.

Now, as a bunch of bikers, how does my behaviour seem to you?

slim_boy_fat

735 posts

240 months

Saturday 4th August 2007
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MrMoonyMan said:
Been dipping into 'biker banter' for a little while as I am a bit interested in getting onto two wheels.

Anyhow, my reaction when I see a biker (ie. something quick not a silly 125cc/moped/harley) is always to try and get behind them so that I can then try using my midrange grunt to keep up from a safe distance. I will indicate that I've seen a biker by obviously moving from near the centre of the road to nearer the kerb.

Now, as a bunch of bikers, how does my behaviour seem to you?
Emmmm seems typical of someone ignorant of bikes.


308mate

13,757 posts

223 months

Saturday 4th August 2007
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MrMoonyMan said:
Hello there you bikeing chaps,

Been dipping into 'biker banter' for a little while as I am a bit interested in getting onto two wheels.

Anyhow, my reaction when I see a biker (ie. something quick not a silly 125cc/moped/harley) is always to try and get behind them so that I can then try using my midrange grunt to keep up from a safe distance. I will indicate that I've seen a biker by obviously moving from near the centre of the road to nearer the kerb.

Now, as a bunch of bikers, how does my behaviour seem to you?
Get out.

You have an inferiority complex that will get killed if you get on two wheels and someone else killed if you keep "just trying to keep up" with bikes.

What are you trying to prove?

MrMoonyMan

2,584 posts

212 months

Saturday 4th August 2007
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slim_boy_fat said:
Emmmm seems typical of someone ignorant of bikes.
Really? Well I'm sorry about that. I didn't think I was too ignorant but if you say so.

MrMoonyMan

2,584 posts

212 months

Saturday 4th August 2007
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308mate said:
MrMoonyMan said:
Hello there you bikeing chaps,

Been dipping into 'biker banter' for a little while as I am a bit interested in getting onto two wheels.

Anyhow, my reaction when I see a biker (ie. something quick not a silly 125cc/moped/harley) is always to try and get behind them so that I can then try using my midrange grunt to keep up from a safe distance. I will indicate that I've seen a biker by obviously moving from near the centre of the road to nearer the kerb.

Now, as a bunch of bikers, how does my behaviour seem to you?
Get out.

You have an inferiority complex that will get killed if you get on two wheels and someone else killed if you keep "just trying to keep up" with bikes.

What are you trying to prove?
Gents, I have nothing to prove and certainly don't have a complex. I only came in here to learn about bikes a bit.

I certainly didn't come in looking for an argument or to stir things up, so again, I apologise.

Possibly what I wrote initially has been mis-understood. I shall re-iterate;
If I am in my car on a road where a fast bike is in front of me and the road opens up then I will have my car in the correct gear to 'attempt' to keep up with the bike has he accelerates off into the distance!

I fail to see a problem with this. I would NEVER hassle a bike. I am ALWAYS aware of bikes around me and give them a wide berth. AND I am aware that almost every bike on road will be quicker than me.

Really, did I need to be greeted like that or did I just come across very badly, I didn't mean to and as I said wasn't looking to aggrevate.