Scary encounter with a group of BABS

Scary encounter with a group of BABS

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Mon Ami Mate

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6,589 posts

269 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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Witnessed the most ridiculous display of two wheeled incompetence today on some of my favourite roads over the Mendips, ending up going down the gorge into Cheddar. These are roads I know well, but I've never understood why there are so many bike accidents in the area. I know now. Caught up with these guys - I think there were six or seven of them, all in shiny new leathers and riding litre sports bikes, the oldest of which seemed to be on an 06 plate. The fact that they made it to Cheddar was pure luck and no judgement. I hung back and watched these guys ride way outside their capability, ridiculous overtakes, clueless lines resulting in them running wide on left handers and braking out of right handers to avoid going farming. Something has to change in motorcycling and until it does we are all becoming sitting ducks for the legislators.

gareth h

3,570 posts

231 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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All the gear no idea!

RemaL

24,977 posts

235 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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shame to hear that, my local roads too. Either go via wales from Bristol or Chedder area. nice roads.

but will say I may be too careful but don't like to ride like a tt and put meyself at risk. chedders a very dangerious area and i'm always careful of the roads and its conditions. Not that I dont like to go fast, some great roads over the mendips to ge a very good speed up but i'm always very careful ( as much as I can)

just hope theses people are not going to get themselves killed soon

Edited by RemaL on Sunday 2nd September 19:33

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

264 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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I'm not a biker, but what does BAB stand for ?

Biker's Nemesis

38,777 posts

209 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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Phil Dicky said:
I'm not a biker, but what does BAB stand for ?
Born again Bikers, the roads where I live are awash with them...

RemaL

24,977 posts

235 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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well I have only been ont he road for 10 months but am not rushing to be the next MOTO gp racer

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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ahhh BABs, fun to watch aint they?
was catching one the other day & i ended up slowing down & letting him get away. i wasnt trying when i was catching him but he was trying so hard outside his ability to get away i'd have felt guilty if he'd stacked it.
odd thing is, ive not been riding long & im damn sure im not a fast rider. they remind me of me about a month after my test.

dern

14,055 posts

280 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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They'll all be back in their Audi TTs in a few weeks.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Sunday 2nd September 2007
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oh thats true its due to rain soon. cant get the bike dirty.

always amazes me when you talk to a 'biker' & they've done 873miles (& they do know exactly) this year. errr thats a decent weekends ride mate.

Mon Ami Mate

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6,589 posts

269 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Hooli said:
oh thats true its due to rain soon. cant get the bike dirty.

always amazes me when you talk to a 'biker' & they've done 873miles (& they do know exactly) this year. errr thats a decent weekends ride mate.
It always pisses me off when I come to sell a bike and get told that it isn't worth book value because of the "high mileage". I've hardly ridden my ZZR1200 this year and last year because of a serious leg injury, but it has still done 16,000 miles since summer 2003. So, not only do BIBS kill themselves, give us all a bad reputation, invite the interference of bureaucrats and get in our way on our favourite roads, they also directly cost us money!

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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The flipside is that those are precisely the bikes I seek out. My R1 only had 1800 miles on it after a year and had never seen rain. Roughly a 30% saving over the new cost smile

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

264 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Phil Dicky said:
I'm not a biker, but what does BAB stand for ?
Born again Bikers, the roads where I live are awash with them...
Thanks for the reply, not sure why I got the 'roll eyes' smilie though

Mon Ami Mate

Original Poster:

6,589 posts

269 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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rsv gone! said:
The flipside is that those are precisely the bikes I seek out. My R1 only had 1800 miles on it after a year and had never seen rain. Roughly a 30% saving over the new cost smile
IN all seriousness, I'd rather buy a bike that has done a few miles too many than many miles too few, especially if it has been properly maintained.

Twit

2,908 posts

265 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Mon Ami Mate said:
rsv gone! said:
The flipside is that those are precisely the bikes I seek out. My R1 only had 1800 miles on it after a year and had never seen rain. Roughly a 30% saving over the new cost smile
IN all seriousness, I'd rather buy a bike that has done a few miles too many than many miles too few, especially if it has been properly maintained.
A agree...! I'm doing 1000 miles a week at the moment which means the bikes mileage is going to be strataspheric by the end of the year. But, it also means its being serviced every 5-6 weeks so I am damn sure that anything wrong with it will be picked up asap and sorted straight away. I'm damn sure thats much better than bikes that take 2 years to get their first service...!

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Twit said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
rsv gone! said:
The flipside is that those are precisely the bikes I seek out. My R1 only had 1800 miles on it after a year and had never seen rain. Roughly a 30% saving over the new cost smile
IN all seriousness, I'd rather buy a bike that has done a few miles too many than many miles too few, especially if it has been properly maintained.
A agree...! I'm doing 1000 miles a week at the moment which means the bikes mileage is going to be strataspheric by the end of the year. But, it also means its being serviced every 5-6 weeks so I am damn sure that anything wrong with it will be picked up asap and sorted straight away. I'm damn sure thats much better than bikes that take 2 years to get their first service...!
But what about the general wear and tear on the more major components like suspension, bearings etc? They all have a finite life and a higher mileage bike will have used more of this up.

I could understand your reaction to a bike which had been stored for years but I don't believe it applies to a one year old bike, that had had minimal use.

Twit

2,908 posts

265 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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rsv gone!] said:
But what about the general wear and tear on the more major components like suspension, bearings etc? They all have a finite life and a higher mileage bike will have used more of this up.
Don't see that as a huge issue as if things need replacing they get done! They have to get done as the bike is used as a tool rather than a toy. If I didnt have the bike I'd be stuffed as getting to work etc would be a right arse. Therefore, if bearings, suspension or anything else need doing they get done!

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Twit said:
rsv gone!] said:
But what about the general wear and tear on the more major components like suspension, bearings etc? They all have a finite life and a higher mileage bike will have used more of this up.
Don't see that as a huge issue as if things need replacing they get done! They have to get done as the bike is used as a tool rather than a toy. If I didnt have the bike I'd be stuffed as getting to work etc would be a right arse. Therefore, if bearings, suspension or anything else need doing they get done!
I always have the economics in my mind (the type of job I do; balancing budgets) so rightly or wrongly, I would view a higher mileage bike as bringing forward maintenance issues and costs.

dern

14,055 posts

280 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Twit said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
rsv gone! said:
The flipside is that those are precisely the bikes I seek out. My R1 only had 1800 miles on it after a year and had never seen rain. Roughly a 30% saving over the new cost smile
IN all seriousness, I'd rather buy a bike that has done a few miles too many than many miles too few, especially if it has been properly maintained.
A agree...! I'm doing 1000 miles a week at the moment which means the bikes mileage is going to be strataspheric by the end of the year. But, it also means its being serviced every 5-6 weeks so I am damn sure that anything wrong with it will be picked up asap and sorted straight away. I'm damn sure thats much better than bikes that take 2 years to get their first service...!
I'd like to agree with you because my bike has a load more miles on than the average but the service interval of a bike is typically 6 months. To my mind if you serviced it at the start of the year and didn't use it at all through winter the bike would never run with 'bad' oil. The bike would be in no worse mechanical condition year for year than a bike would be if it had been used year round. If the oil isn't changed for 2 years then not only are you not meeting the service interval but you're slso riding around on old oil which is obviously bad. A mate bought a 3 year old cbr600rr with about 1500 on it but the oil was changed regularly... it did ride like new and much much better than my bike. I would prefer a relatively low mileage bike over a high mileage bike unless I can see that all the stuff that wears out through high mileage has been sorted.

dern

14,055 posts

280 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Twit said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
rsv gone! said:
The flipside is that those are precisely the bikes I seek out. My R1 only had 1800 miles on it after a year and had never seen rain. Roughly a 30% saving over the new cost smile
IN all seriousness, I'd rather buy a bike that has done a few miles too many than many miles too few, especially if it has been properly maintained.
A agree...! I'm doing 1000 miles a week at the moment which means the bikes mileage is going to be strataspheric by the end of the year. But, it also means its being serviced every 5-6 weeks so I am damn sure that anything wrong with it will be picked up asap and sorted straight away. I'm damn sure thats much better than bikes that take 2 years to get their first service...!
I'd like to agree with you because my bike has a load more miles on than the average but the service interval of a bike is typically 6 months. To my mind if you serviced it at the start of the year and didn't use it at all through winter the bike would never run with 'bad' oil. The bike would be in no worse mechanical condition year for year than a bike would be if it had been used year round. If the oil isn't changed for 2 years then not only are you not meeting the service interval but you're slso riding around on old oil which is obviously bad. A mate bought a 3 year old cbr600rr with about 1500 on it but the oil was changed regularly... it did ride like new and much much better than my bike. I would prefer a relatively low mileage bike over a high mileage bike unless I can see that all the stuff that wears out through high mileage has been sorted. That isn't to say I'd pass over a bike with high miles but I would expect to pay significantly less for it.

Biker's Nemesis

38,777 posts

209 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Phil Dicky said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Phil Dicky said:
I'm not a biker, but what does BAB stand for ?
Born again Bikers, the roads where I live are awash with them...
Thanks for the reply, not sure why I got the 'roll eyes' smilie though
Sorry, the roll eyes smiley wasn't directed at you or anyone on this forum.

As I have said there are countless BABS around where I live who are spoling things for everyone.

John.