Hein Gericke - getting discounts on a complete set of gear?
Discussion
philelmer said:
fergus said:
An 80mph crash will be the same on a £2k bike as on a £38k desmodici ducati....
It won't really, will it? Be fair.The crash will of course have the same impact on the clothing worn!
I'm going to go against the grain completely here...
I don't get why people buy all the gear before the test, you can borrow all the stuff you need, maybe helmet excepted; thats what I did a few year back now...
Reason for this:
1. Until you actually pass you don't know if biking is for you, I know a few people who have passed and then decided they don't want bikes etc. In that situation you are left with a grands worth of useless kit!
2. Different types of kit fit different bikes better! E.g, what I wear on my BM's I could not wear on my little 400RR as it simply would fit or fold in the right places. The HG off road type gear is great day to day if you have a biggish bike that you can sit up on, I wouldn't want to wear that in a racing crouch as it would feel awful. Equally I wouldnt wear leathers on my GSs. But before your DAS you don't know what bike you will end up with.
3. Related to 2 and I guess similar to people who buy bikes before they pass. Its only after you have passed your test that you are able to get out and test ride bikes and decide what you like best. Before I passed my test I thought I would be a sports bike jockey using it occasionally. However, after I realised I loved bikes, use it all the time and much prefer trial / trail type bikes. In fact within a year of passing my test I was riding a KTM round the world. Point is that had I bought the kit etc before the test I would have bought entirely unsuitable kit!
The DAS test is basically an urban test so you really don't need all the kit; decent boots, jeans, some kind of jacket, helmet and gloves will be fine. After you have passed get out, decide what bike you want and get kit to match with that type of bike!
I don't get why people buy all the gear before the test, you can borrow all the stuff you need, maybe helmet excepted; thats what I did a few year back now...
Reason for this:
1. Until you actually pass you don't know if biking is for you, I know a few people who have passed and then decided they don't want bikes etc. In that situation you are left with a grands worth of useless kit!
2. Different types of kit fit different bikes better! E.g, what I wear on my BM's I could not wear on my little 400RR as it simply would fit or fold in the right places. The HG off road type gear is great day to day if you have a biggish bike that you can sit up on, I wouldn't want to wear that in a racing crouch as it would feel awful. Equally I wouldnt wear leathers on my GSs. But before your DAS you don't know what bike you will end up with.
3. Related to 2 and I guess similar to people who buy bikes before they pass. Its only after you have passed your test that you are able to get out and test ride bikes and decide what you like best. Before I passed my test I thought I would be a sports bike jockey using it occasionally. However, after I realised I loved bikes, use it all the time and much prefer trial / trail type bikes. In fact within a year of passing my test I was riding a KTM round the world. Point is that had I bought the kit etc before the test I would have bought entirely unsuitable kit!
The DAS test is basically an urban test so you really don't need all the kit; decent boots, jeans, some kind of jacket, helmet and gloves will be fine. After you have passed get out, decide what bike you want and get kit to match with that type of bike!
Twit said:
I'm going to go against the grain completely here...
I don't get why people buy all the gear before the test, you can borrow all the stuff you need, maybe helmet excepted; thats what I did a few year back now...
Thats what I am doing for my son.I don't get why people buy all the gear before the test, you can borrow all the stuff you need, maybe helmet excepted; thats what I did a few year back now...
The only thing I cant kit him out with , is a helmet that fits correctly that I can vouch for his life on.
Busamav said:
Twit said:
I'm going to go against the grain completely here...
I don't get why people buy all the gear before the test, you can borrow all the stuff you need, maybe helmet excepted; thats what I did a few year back now...
Thats what I am doing for my son.I don't get why people buy all the gear before the test, you can borrow all the stuff you need, maybe helmet excepted; thats what I did a few year back now...
The only thing I cant kit him out with , is a helmet that fits correctly that I can vouch for his life on.
You look a prize tw@t in a convoy of 3-4 cb125's with your high viz vest on over your custom race leathers
I went through the whole learning process borrowing everything but my helmet/jacket/gloves from the test centre, and these were cheapo items to see me through.
Edited by dave_s13 on Saturday 29th March 12:40
Sossige said:
When I've completed my CBT (which I will do 
), I'll be looking to buy clothing and safety gear so I can start my training for my DAS and test.
The closest clothing shop to me is a branch of Hein Gericke and I've spent a while perusing their catalogue
I reckon I'd spend something around £1500 on clobber to start me out and wondered what people's experiences of getting a discount at HG are?
Surely if I wander in with £1.5k and want to buy all my kit to start with, they would offer a discount - or if I paid for cash? If I'm spending that kind of dosh, I'd expect something to sweeten the deal!
Or would I be better off waiting for a bike show and getting kitted out then?
I went into Hein Gericke last September and bought a full set of Hein Gericke leathers for £175, Hein Gericke stuff come out pretty well in Ride crash tests and best of all I saw the same leathers under a different brand for £450 in my local bike shop. The same set are currently up for £280. Do not assume that price necessarily equates to quality, in terms of protection Ride magazine appear to be the only people who do public scientific testing of helmets and leathers so I would read up on the best kit. ), I'll be looking to buy clothing and safety gear so I can start my training for my DAS and test.The closest clothing shop to me is a branch of Hein Gericke and I've spent a while perusing their catalogue
I reckon I'd spend something around £1500 on clobber to start me out and wondered what people's experiences of getting a discount at HG are?Surely if I wander in with £1.5k and want to buy all my kit to start with, they would offer a discount - or if I paid for cash? If I'm spending that kind of dosh, I'd expect something to sweeten the deal!
Or would I be better off waiting for a bike show and getting kitted out then?
http://www.ridetriangles.com/nav?page=ridetriangle...
I wouldn't bother buying any stuff until you have passed your test and you want to start looking for bikes. Most training schools will lend you a set of textile armour while you are training, so they only things I would recommend would be your own helmet and boots. If you have some sturdy ankle length walking boots these will be good enough to ride in provided you can still operate the foot controls.
For helmets as you can see in the product testing the most basic helmets of the best manufacturers (Arai, Shoei) are pretty much as safe as the most expensive ones.
Edited by Talksteer on Saturday 29th March 18:44
Talksteer said:
If you have some sturdy ankle length walking boots these will be good enough to ride in provided you can still operate the foot controls.
They will probably keep your feet warm .Just dont expect them to still be on your feet in even the lightest of spills and you wont be disapointed
To be honest, I tried walking boots at my first CBT and found them completely unsuitable. I ended up wearing my trainers for part of the CBT 
I've bought some boots (see the "I have been naughty" thread) and I'm very pleased with what I've bought. I will buy my own helmet when I have my DL196
I've bought some boots (see the "I have been naughty" thread) and I'm very pleased with what I've bought. I will buy my own helmet when I have my DL196
Busamav said:
Talksteer said:
If you have some sturdy ankle length walking boots these will be good enough to ride in provided you can still operate the foot controls.
They will probably keep your feet warm .Just dont expect them to still be on your feet in even the lightest of spills and you wont be disapointed
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