When things go wrong...

[Buelligan 984]

Probably posted before, but:



Dave

[zigazigahh]

Looks like a lardass American. Should've stuck to a Harley, fatboy.

(See what I did there?)

[Sossige]

Only a T-shirt = madness!

[black-k1]

Sossige said:

Only a T-shirt = madness!

What, all 4 of them in the picture, all of whom live and ride in the prevailing climate conditions rather than just look at a single photo to make their judgements?

As we in ‘blighty’ rarely get proper hot weather and thus have no understanding of the implications of heat exhaustion I think we are possibly not best placed to pass judgment. I don’t know where this photo was taken but it by the looks of the vegetation; it looks like somewhere that is pretty hot quite a lot of the time.

Edited by black-k1 on Saturday 29th March 09:36

[bob1179]

If ever there was a time in which to say 'bugger', that would have to be it.

[hugoagogo]

black-k1 said:

Sossige said:

Only a T-shirt = madness!

What, all 4 of them in the picture, all of whom live and ride in the prevailing climate conditions rather than just look at a single photo to make their judgements?

As we in ‘blighty’ rarely get proper hot weather and thus have no understanding of the implications of heat exhaustion I think we are possibly not best placed to pass judgment. I don’t know where this photo was taken but it by the looks of the vegetation; it looks like somewhere that is pretty hot quite a lot of the time.

Edited by black-k1 on Saturday 29th March 09:36

I'm all for freedom of choice, but if i was going to do stoppies, t-shirt and bandana don't quite seem like the choice i would have made

[black-k1]

hugoagogo said:

black-k1 said:

Sossige said:

Only a T-shirt = madness!

What, all 4 of them in the picture, all of whom live and ride in the prevailing climate conditions rather than just look at a single photo to make their judgements?

As we in ‘blighty’ rarely get proper hot weather and thus have no understanding of the implications of heat exhaustion I think we are possibly not best placed to pass judgment. I don’t know where this photo was taken but it by the looks of the vegetation; it looks like somewhere that is pretty hot quite a lot of the time.

Edited by black-k1 on Saturday 29th March 09:36

I'm all for freedom of choice, but if i was going to do stoppies, t-shirt and bandana don't quite seem like the choice i would have made

Nor is it a choice I would have made but, we are not the ones making the call. (To be honest, there is no way I'd be attempting stoppies, however dressed, anywhere near anyone with a camera ... there is really only one possible outcome from that!)

But likewise, even when good quality gear is available (and paid for by an employer) many chose to ride differently. Doesn’t make it right and it doesn’t make it wrong, it’s just different.

[Sossige]

black-k1 said:

What, all 4 of them in the picture, all of whom live and ride in the prevailing climate conditions rather than just look at a single photo to make their judgements?

As we in ‘blighty’ rarely get proper hot weather and thus have no understanding of the implications of heat exhaustion I think we are possibly not best placed to pass judgment. I don’t know where this photo was taken but it by the looks of the vegetation; it looks like somewhere that is pretty hot quite a lot of the time.

I guess so and what they wear (or don't) is completely upto them. I know that I am green as far as biking is concerned, but there's no way I'm going to ride without protective gear on. Just MHO of course

[black-k1]

Sossige said:

I guess so and what they wear (or don't) is completely upto them. I know that I am green as far as biking is concerned, but there's no way I'm going to ride without protective gear on. Just MHO of course

And that is absolutely fine and totally your choice. If, however, you find yourself riding in really hot conditions where lots of the locals (often including local plod) are dressed like the guys in the picture then the only two questions to ask yourself are ‘do they know more than me about riding in hot conditions’ and ‘do they all really value their skin less then than I value mine’?

[Twit]

black-k1 said:

And that is absolutely fine and totally your choice. If, however, you find yourself riding in really hot conditions where lots of the locals (often including local plod) are dressed like the guys in the picture then the only two questions to ask yourself are ‘do they know more than me about riding in hot conditions’ and ‘do they all really value their skin less then than I value mine’?

Agree completely. When I was riding through the desert I rode in jeans and t-shirts, abandoned everything else and all propective stuff including the helmet. But the temperatures were up in the 40s and there was a much bigger risk of injury from dehydration and heat with the kit on than keeping a bit cooler with the kit off. That said sunburn became a bigger issue!!!

Conditions should dictate what people wear, not some preconcieved idea of 'safety'. Its only really here and maybe Germany where 'protective' gear is such an issue; get out of Europe and you will look odd wearing gear!!!

[y2blade]

Buelligan 984 said:

Probably posted before, but:



Dave

he should have bought a Honda

[y2blade]

black-k1 said:

But likewise, even when good quality gear is available (and paid for by an employer) many chose to ride differently. Doesn’t make it right and it doesn’t make it wrong, it’s just different.

very cool

[dave_s13]

Buelligan 984 said:

Probably posted before, but:



Dave

What's the white tubing frame thing going round the underside of the fairing, doesn't look right??


Reminds me a bit of my old GSXR750, just about to set off from work when my colleague wonders out and comments on the liquidy stuff on the tyres, looked down squeezed the brake lever and the braided hose popped off the caliper and pi$$ed out all the fluid!

Thanked my lucky stars and said a little pray that evening!

[bob1179]

dave_s13 said:

Buelligan 984 said:

Probably posted before, but:



Dave

What's the white tubing frame thing going round the underside of the fairing, doesn't look right??


Reminds me a bit of my old GSXR750, just about to set off from work when my colleague wonders out and comments on the liquidy stuff on the tyres, looked down squeezed the brake lever and the braided hose popped off the caliper and pi$$ed out all the fluid!

Thanked my lucky stars and said a little pray that evening!

Sounds very lucky!

That guy looks like a 'pro' stoppier type bloke. I think the white tubing is there to protect the bike when he drops it, a bit like a roll cage sort of thing. To be all boring and engineeringy, it looks like he's pulled one too many stoppies and the repeated stress on the front forks has caused one of them to fail at the bottom. Looks pretty painful though...

Edited by bob1179 on Saturday 29th March 12:52

[Hooli]

Im sure this pic has appeared before. i think it got traced back to a stunt school somewhere hence the cage around the engine etc

[sprinter885]

It's extract from American magazine "Zee X R Owner Mechanics"- 'How to Change Fork Oil' !

[mr968cs]

What's the white tubing frame thing going round the underside of the fairing, doesn't look right??




It is called A crash cage loads of the stunt guys use them.

[bimsb6]

do you think the warrenty will cover it ?

[Rubin215]

black-k1 said:

Sossige said:

Only a T-shirt = madness!

What, all 4 of them in the picture, all of whom live and ride in the prevailing climate conditions rather than just look at a single photo to make their judgements?

As we in ‘blighty’ rarely get proper hot weather and thus have no understanding of the implications of heat exhaustion I think we are possibly not best placed to pass judgment. I don’t know where this photo was taken but it by the looks of the vegetation; it looks like somewhere that is pretty hot quite a lot of the time.

Edited by black-k1 on Saturday 29th March 09:36

Lets weigh up the options shall we?

Being protected but overheated by an Airmesh jacket and helmet with visor up for maximum ventilation, having to stop for a cold drink every hour or so and then finishing with a cool shower at the end of the day

versus

looking "cool" (in a stereotypically american/homosexual kind of way) but risking ending up with facial reconstructive surgery, gravel rash, skin grafts, septicaemia, massive scars for life (and no, chicks don't dig scars) and small children running away in tears when they see you limp down the road towards them...

Yeah, choice is a fantastic thing isn't it...


Part of the hierarchy of risk control is personal protective equipment; if you choose to ignore all the previous steps and still take these risks by attempting stunts you should at least choose to protect yourself to minimise any potential injury. Or do we just expect the medical industry to look after us when it all goes wrong (I pay my taxes; I'm entitled to expect them to patch me up when I injure myself through my own stupidity...)?

[LongLiveTazio]

I've done manual labour in 38 degree heat under direct sunlight, and that was for 7 hours a day. 'Heat exhaustion' is caused by being unfit and not taking adequate precautions. Funnily, I covered up and didn't succumb, unlike others who thought working with their shirts off was a perfectly good idea.