Reasons not to do DAS?

[Cold Hans]

I'm a middle aged lapsed motorcyclist who is thinking about returning. Never took my test in the old days (I'm now 50) but am trying to work out best way to get back. I've seen many of you say DAS is by far best way. I've been thinking about it and come to opposite conclusion, so I'm hoping you'll tell me if I'm missing something. Here's my thinking:

1. DAS big bike=4 days about £600. At end of it take test. National pass rates only around 60% so significant chance that after 4 days and £600 I fail and have achieved nothing.

2. CBT=1 Day about £100. Very hard to fail. At end of it you have a cert. (DL191?) which means you can go and get a 125cc bike. You therefore have achieved at least something. You can then use 125cc to take standard bike test-upgrade to bigger bike if you pass, carry on riding 125cc if you fail. If pass updgrade, ride for two years and then get any bike you want.

Therefore, second option looks clear winner to me.

Feel free to put me right.

[UpTheIron]

Take DAS. First day will include CBT.

Pass DAS after test on day four or thereabouts...WIN

Fail the DAS and you will still have CBT...then ride around on a 125, book a further days tuition and retest after a couple of weeks.

[UpTheIron]

It will also take a lot less than two years to get bored of 33bhp

[speed_monkey]

Just do it you know you want to

[Cold Hans]

UpTheIron said:

Take DAS. First day will include CBT.

Yes, good point. I had overlooked that.

Edited by Cold Hans on Monday 27th October 20:57

[speed_monkey]

Cold Hans said:

UpTheIron said:

Take DAS. First day will include CBT.

Yes, good point. I had overlooked that.

Edited by Cold Hans on Monday 27th October 20:57

Now go get it booked theres a good chap

[outlaw biker]

I didn't do the DAS. I did the CBT last year and then took lessons (about 3 on the 125 and the rest on 500's - about 8 lessons in all) for the next 8 months. Booked my test and passed first time. I'm not a fan of the DAS, it seems too intensive, too short, all at once. The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time. I think it worked out cheaper than the DAS too. If I had to do it again I wouldn't do it differently.

[speed_monkey]

outlaw biker said:

I didn't do the DAS. I did the CBT last year and then took lessons (about 3 on the 125 and the rest on 500's - about 8 lessons in all) for the next 8 months. Booked my test and passed first time. I'm not a fan of the DAS, it seems too intensive, too short, all at once. The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time. I think it worked out cheaper than the DAS too. If I had to do it again I wouldn't do it differently.

see im on the flipside, i paid £625 for CBT, 5 days intensive DAS training and test.

Passed first time.



But horses for courses i suppose

[Cold Hans]

outlaw biker said:

The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time.

Yes, that did sway me too. I don't like idea of taking tests on a bike I don't know (never tried it so don't know if I'm worrying unecessarily). Really feel that having my own bike, and taking it when I feel ready on that bike must be an advantage.

[outlaw biker]

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

I didn't do the DAS. I did the CBT last year and then took lessons (about 3 on the 125 and the rest on 500's - about 8 lessons in all) for the next 8 months. Booked my test and passed first time. I'm not a fan of the DAS, it seems too intensive, too short, all at once. The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time. I think it worked out cheaper than the DAS too. If I had to do it again I wouldn't do it differently.

see im on the flipside, i paid £625 for CBT, 5 days intensive DAS training and test.

Passed first time.



But horses for courses i suppose

I think mine cost under £500...(possibly £450) but I'd have to sit down and calculate that. Like I say, I didn't want the short sharp introduction to biking.

[speed_monkey]

outlaw biker said:

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

I didn't do the DAS. I did the CBT last year and then took lessons (about 3 on the 125 and the rest on 500's - about 8 lessons in all) for the next 8 months. Booked my test and passed first time. I'm not a fan of the DAS, it seems too intensive, too short, all at once. The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time. I think it worked out cheaper than the DAS too. If I had to do it again I wouldn't do it differently.

see im on the flipside, i paid £625 for CBT, 5 days intensive DAS training and test.

Passed first time.



But horses for courses i suppose

I think mine cost under £500...(possibly £450) but I'd have to sit down and calculate that. Like I say, I didn't want the short sharp introduction to biking.

When i started I hadnt even ridden a scooter!! ha ha

To say i was cacking myself is an understatement

[outlaw biker]

Cold Hans said:

outlaw biker said:

The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time.

Yes, that did sway me too. I don't like idea of taking tests on a bike I don't know (never tried it so don't know if I'm worrying unecessarily). Really feel that having my own bike, and taking it when I feel ready on that bike must be an advantage.

I've never bought a bike in my life Using the instructors bikes cost me £3 extra per lesson...hell, thats not even the cost of petrol!!! ...and I'm lucky enough to have an R6 at my unlimited disposal now I've passed

[speed_monkey]

outlaw biker said:

Cold Hans said:

outlaw biker said:

The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time.

Yes, that did sway me too. I don't like idea of taking tests on a bike I don't know (never tried it so don't know if I'm worrying unecessarily). Really feel that having my own bike, and taking it when I feel ready on that bike must be an advantage.

I've never bought a bike in my life Using the instructors bikes cost me £3 extra per lesson...hell, thats not even the cost of petrol!!! ...and I'm lucky enough to have an R6 at my unlimited disposal now I've passed

R6 next for me i think

[speed_monkey]

Cold Hans said:

outlaw biker said:

The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time.

Yes, that did sway me too. I don't like idea of taking tests on a bike I don't know (never tried it so don't know if I'm worrying unecessarily). Really feel that having my own bike, and taking it when I feel ready on that bike must be an advantage.

On the day of my test the bike throttle cable snapped an hour before the test! had to do it on a CB500 that I hadnt even learnt on!!!

Edited by speed_monkey on Monday 27th October 21:16

[outlaw biker]

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

Cold Hans said:

outlaw biker said:

The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time.

Yes, that did sway me too. I don't like idea of taking tests on a bike I don't know (never tried it so don't know if I'm worrying unecessarily). Really feel that having my own bike, and taking it when I feel ready on that bike must be an advantage.

I've never bought a bike in my life Using the instructors bikes cost me £3 extra per lesson...hell, thats not even the cost of petrol!!! ...and I'm lucky enough to have an R6 at my unlimited disposal now I've passed

R6 next for me i think

Hows that lovely SRAD working out for you? I hated the R6 with a passion at first, but its started to grow on me now....although I did have a moment the other week where too much throttle off a roundabout meant the bike nearly left me behind...left hand came completely off the bars!!! Scary!!!!

[speed_monkey]

outlaw biker said:

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

Cold Hans said:

outlaw biker said:

The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time.

Yes, that did sway me too. I don't like idea of taking tests on a bike I don't know (never tried it so don't know if I'm worrying unecessarily). Really feel that having my own bike, and taking it when I feel ready on that bike must be an advantage.

I've never bought a bike in my life Using the instructors bikes cost me £3 extra per lesson...hell, thats not even the cost of petrol!!! ...and I'm lucky enough to have an R6 at my unlimited disposal now I've passed

R6 next for me i think

Hows that lovely SRAD working out for you? I hated the R6 with a passion at first, but its started to grow on me now....although I did have a moment the other week where too much throttle off a roundabout meant the bike nearly left me behind...left hand came completely off the bars!!! Scary!!!!

ah shes a dream bud, did you not see my poo my pants thread a few days ago about me grabbing a handful in first gear and thinking i was gonna land on my ass! haha

[outlaw biker]

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

Cold Hans said:

outlaw biker said:

The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time.

Yes, that did sway me too. I don't like idea of taking tests on a bike I don't know (never tried it so don't know if I'm worrying unecessarily). Really feel that having my own bike, and taking it when I feel ready on that bike must be an advantage.

I've never bought a bike in my life Using the instructors bikes cost me £3 extra per lesson...hell, thats not even the cost of petrol!!! ...and I'm lucky enough to have an R6 at my unlimited disposal now I've passed

R6 next for me i think

Hows that lovely SRAD working out for you? I hated the R6 with a passion at first, but its started to grow on me now....although I did have a moment the other week where too much throttle off a roundabout meant the bike nearly left me behind...left hand came completely off the bars!!! Scary!!!!

ah shes a dream bud, did you not see my poo my pants thread a few days ago about me grabbing a handful in first gear and thinking i was gonna land on my ass! haha

No, had a heavy weekend...I'll have a look for it....

[speed_monkey]

outlaw biker said:

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

Cold Hans said:

outlaw biker said:

The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time.

Yes, that did sway me too. I don't like idea of taking tests on a bike I don't know (never tried it so don't know if I'm worrying unecessarily). Really feel that having my own bike, and taking it when I feel ready on that bike must be an advantage.

I've never bought a bike in my life Using the instructors bikes cost me £3 extra per lesson...hell, thats not even the cost of petrol!!! ...and I'm lucky enough to have an R6 at my unlimited disposal now I've passed

R6 next for me i think

Hows that lovely SRAD working out for you? I hated the R6 with a passion at first, but its started to grow on me now....although I did have a moment the other week where too much throttle off a roundabout meant the bike nearly left me behind...left hand came completely off the bars!!! Scary!!!!

ah shes a dream bud, did you not see my poo my pants thread a few days ago about me grabbing a handful in first gear and thinking i was gonna land on my ass! haha

No, had a heavy weekend...I'll have a look for it....

I know the feeling i had a 17 hour session on saturday, from 2 in tehe afternoon till 7 the next morning!!

[outlaw biker]

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

speed_monkey said:

outlaw biker said:

Cold Hans said:

outlaw biker said:

The way I did it meant I could take it all in my stride when I liked, and without having to take time off work, getting used to bikes over a longer period of time.

Yes, that did sway me too. I don't like idea of taking tests on a bike I don't know (never tried it so don't know if I'm worrying unecessarily). Really feel that having my own bike, and taking it when I feel ready on that bike must be an advantage.

I've never bought a bike in my life Using the instructors bikes cost me £3 extra per lesson...hell, thats not even the cost of petrol!!! ...and I'm lucky enough to have an R6 at my unlimited disposal now I've passed

R6 next for me i think

Hows that lovely SRAD working out for you? I hated the R6 with a passion at first, but its started to grow on me now....although I did have a moment the other week where too much throttle off a roundabout meant the bike nearly left me behind...left hand came completely off the bars!!! Scary!!!!

ah shes a dream bud, did you not see my poo my pants thread a few days ago about me grabbing a handful in first gear and thinking i was gonna land on my ass! haha

No, had a heavy weekend...I'll have a look for it....

I know the feeling i had a 17 hour session on saturday, from 2 in tehe afternoon till 7 the next morning!!

Oh you popped a wheelie!!! Jealous I was reading in Bike magazine yesterday there is actually a course you can go on that teaches you how to wheelie! How cool

Yeah, don't talk to me about beer. Good god. If I never touch another drop it'll be too soon.

[speed_monkey]

outlaw biker said:

[Oh you popped a wheelie!!! Jealous I was reading in Bike magazine yesterday there is actually a course you can go on that teaches you how to wheelie! How cool

Yeah, don't talk to me about beer. Good god. If I never touch another drop it'll be too soon.

until next time!

Yeah i popped a wheelie, unintentionally mind you! I shat myself bt managed to land it ok, then felt like a god! ha ha

Hmmmm wheelie lessons? that would be fun