The big bike stripdown
Discussion
Great thread. I'm especially interested as i have a 600 SRAD too.
I said i was going to keep my bke standard, but i like your indicators, did you fit them or did the come with the bike? If the former can you point me in the general direction please, also if you did fit them and i'm assuming they are LED, did you fit resistors to adjust the flash rate?
David.
I said i was going to keep my bke standard, but i like your indicators, did you fit them or did the come with the bike? If the former can you point me in the general direction please, also if you did fit them and i'm assuming they are LED, did you fit resistors to adjust the flash rate?
David.
mitzy said:
You had the engine in the house ????!!!!1
Of course! I needed a reasonably clean place to work and the kitchen worktop was the only space going 
Stainless steel sinks are great places for degreasing engine parts, simply fill with Jizer and splash it all over. All over the walls, that is
Last time I stripped an engine it was a Lotus twincam, but I did it in the workshop... though I still managed to ruin the hall carpet
Mellow Matt said:
Would've been nice to know that 2nd gear was buggered before I got it though 
That reminds me of when I bought my first car. The guy said the battery was flat so we bump started it. It ran like a dream so the deal was done. When I got it home and fitted a new battery it turned out my Gramps had more teeth than the starter ring. 
Wedg1e said:
Good man, can't call yourself a biker unless you know what the oily bits look like!
Mind you, I'm guessing from the top-down strip that the Suzi has an integral, rather than cassette-type gearbox, so you are in for some scaaaaaaaary pics of internals
Last full engine strip I did was a Honda CB550/4, some of the older PHers may remember those
Mine was a semi-chop complete with demons and naked ladies, pity the previous owner didn't put as much effort into the engine as he did the artwork, that way it needn't have ended up in bits all over my kitchen.
Tip: a small amount of 10w/40 covers a LOT of worktop. And floor, sink, washing machine, kid's schoolbag, hall carpet...
Yep, I'm a bit worried about the gearbox internals! I've seen the inside of the Francis Barnett gearbox and that was complicated enough...Mind you, I'm guessing from the top-down strip that the Suzi has an integral, rather than cassette-type gearbox, so you are in for some scaaaaaaaary pics of internals
Last full engine strip I did was a Honda CB550/4, some of the older PHers may remember those
Mine was a semi-chop complete with demons and naked ladies, pity the previous owner didn't put as much effort into the engine as he did the artwork, that way it needn't have ended up in bits all over my kitchen.Tip: a small amount of 10w/40 covers a LOT of worktop. And floor, sink, washing machine, kid's schoolbag, hall carpet...
My mum's had quite enough of my dad rebuilding bikes in the house (or the bath...) so we're confined to the garage where we can't do too much damage
Davie_GLA said:
Great thread. I'm especially interested as i have a 600 SRAD too.
I said i was going to keep my bke standard, but i like your indicators, did you fit them or did the come with the bike? If the former can you point me in the general direction please, also if you did fit them and i'm assuming they are LED, did you fit resistors to adjust the flash rate?
David.
The bike came with them I'm afraid, so I don't have a clue how they're wired up, sorry chap.I said i was going to keep my bke standard, but i like your indicators, did you fit them or did the come with the bike? If the former can you point me in the general direction please, also if you did fit them and i'm assuming they are LED, did you fit resistors to adjust the flash rate?
David.
Robs_Dad said:
Mellow Matt said:
Would've been nice to know that 2nd gear was buggered before I got it though
That reminds me of when I bought my first car. The guy said the battery was flat so we bump started it. It ran like a dream so the deal was done. When I got it home and fitted a new battery it turned out my Gramps had more teeth than the starter ring. I didn't realise 2nd gear was buggered on the bike for a couple of months, as it only skips occassionally when you're hard on it, and as it's my first sports bike it took me a while to get to that stage
Mellow Matt said:
smack said:
Funny, on the weekend I was going through some old photos, and found a bunch from pulling apart my SRAD about 8 years ago!
Ah so when we get stuck you're the man to come to for advice?!They are probably on the net somewhere, but if you need any sections, I am happy to scan/photo any bits you need.
kitchens are the best place of engine rebuilds 
as to 2nd gear, i bet 6th is connected too it but it doesnt play up due to the lower transmitted torque in top gear. gsx1400s have a similar problem on early models, full throttle in 2nd & it jumps like the clutch slips for a moment?
as i understand it the fault is the dogs that engage 2nd wear slightly off square as do the holes they engage with & that allows them to jump under high load. from comments on 14s you'll have to compare old & new to actually see the damage its so slight.
as to 2nd gear, i bet 6th is connected too it but it doesnt play up due to the lower transmitted torque in top gear. gsx1400s have a similar problem on early models, full throttle in 2nd & it jumps like the clutch slips for a moment?
as i understand it the fault is the dogs that engage 2nd wear slightly off square as do the holes they engage with & that allows them to jump under high load. from comments on 14s you'll have to compare old & new to actually see the damage its so slight.
Hooli said:
kitchens are the best place of engine rebuilds
as to 2nd gear, i bet 6th is connected too it but it doesnt play up due to the lower transmitted torque in top gear. gsx1400s have a similar problem on early models, full throttle in 2nd & it jumps like the clutch slips for a moment?
as i understand it the fault is the dogs that engage 2nd wear slightly off square as do the holes they engage with & that allows them to jump under high load. from comments on 14s you'll have to compare old & new to actually see the damage its so slight.
Yep, that's what's happening, general consensus is indeed that the dogs are worn. I'll have a look at 6th as well though, ta. I imagine it'll look like this:as to 2nd gear, i bet 6th is connected too it but it doesnt play up due to the lower transmitted torque in top gear. gsx1400s have a similar problem on early models, full throttle in 2nd & it jumps like the clutch slips for a moment?
as i understand it the fault is the dogs that engage 2nd wear slightly off square as do the holes they engage with & that allows them to jump under high load. from comments on 14s you'll have to compare old & new to actually see the damage its so slight.
instead of this:
Or at least I hope so, or else I'm going to be annoyed...!
Edited by Mellow Matt on Wednesday 10th June 21:32
OK, now I'm scared 
I was just idly browsing another forum and came across a thread where the bloke's detailing the stripping of his GSX1400, so it caught my eye after Hooli's comment. He says he's got the same 2nd gear problem, "oh good", thinks I, "this'll show me what I need to do". Well too bloody right it does, have a look at this: http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1737...
I hope all of that isn't necessary?! I'm hoping he was doing extra bits in addition to the bits necessary to get to the dogs...
I was just idly browsing another forum and came across a thread where the bloke's detailing the stripping of his GSX1400, so it caught my eye after Hooli's comment. He says he's got the same 2nd gear problem, "oh good", thinks I, "this'll show me what I need to do". Well too bloody right it does, have a look at this: http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1737...I hope all of that isn't necessary?! I'm hoping he was doing extra bits in addition to the bits necessary to get to the dogs...
Wedg1e said:
Good man, can't call yourself a biker unless you know what the oily bits look like!
Mind you, I'm guessing from the top-down strip that the Suzi has an integral, rather than cassette-type gearbox, so you are in for some scaaaaaaaary pics of internals
Last full engine strip I did was a Honda CB550/4, some of the older PHers may remember those Mine was a semi-chop complete with demons and naked ladies, pity the previous owner didn't put as much effort into the engine as he did the artwork, that way it needn't have ended up in bits all over my kitchen.
Tip: a small amount of 10w/40 covers a LOT of worktop. And floor, sink, washing machine, kid's schoolbag, hall carpet...
I removed the sump from an Escort engine in the kitchen. 5 litres of 20/50 goes a hell of a long way Mind you, I'm guessing from the top-down strip that the Suzi has an integral, rather than cassette-type gearbox, so you are in for some scaaaaaaaary pics of internals
Last full engine strip I did was a Honda CB550/4, some of the older PHers may remember those
Mine was a semi-chop complete with demons and naked ladies, pity the previous owner didn't put as much effort into the engine as he did the artwork, that way it needn't have ended up in bits all over my kitchen.Tip: a small amount of 10w/40 covers a LOT of worktop. And floor, sink, washing machine, kid's schoolbag, hall carpet...
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