Predictions for future classics
Discussion
Your looking for benchmark bikes, something that moved the game on and grabbed headlines at the time.
In no way will that include a TL-R1000, the "S" Yes but not the "R". Same goes for the 929cc blades, always second fiddle to the R1 of teh era and didnt push the game forward in any area..nice bike but no future classic.
My slightly obscure vote would be for an immaculate early full power Hayabusa,1999 -2000 model-they will become collectable and sought after pretty soon.
In no way will that include a TL-R1000, the "S" Yes but not the "R". Same goes for the 929cc blades, always second fiddle to the R1 of teh era and didnt push the game forward in any area..nice bike but no future classic.
My slightly obscure vote would be for an immaculate early full power Hayabusa,1999 -2000 model-they will become collectable and sought after pretty soon.
podman said:
Your looking for benchmark bikes, something that moved the game on and grabbed headlines at the time.
In no way will that include a TL-R1000, the "S" Yes but not the "R". Same goes for the 929cc blades, always second fiddle to the R1 of teh era and didnt push the game forward in any area..nice bike but no future classic.
My slightly obscure vote would be for an immaculate early full power Hayabusa,1999 -2000 model-they will become collectable and sought after pretty soon.
No.In no way will that include a TL-R1000, the "S" Yes but not the "R". Same goes for the 929cc blades, always second fiddle to the R1 of teh era and didnt push the game forward in any area..nice bike but no future classic.
My slightly obscure vote would be for an immaculate early full power Hayabusa,1999 -2000 model-they will become collectable and sought after pretty soon.
I take your point about benchmark bikes, but being a benchmark isnt the only thing that makes a classic.
The TLS is a bike that had a bed rep at the time, but was actually quite good. Notoriety alone gives it classic status. The R is less so, I will admit. But it has racing pedigree, was underrated, makes a beautiful sound, odd looks - definite potential as a classic I would say.
The 929, as I said moved the brand on and was a delicious bike in every aspect. It was a leap in design for Honda and was so fast AND comfortable, being the first of a new design philosophy for Honda after an iconic series of bikes , I would argue it will be become a classic Honda model.
The Hayabusa? Sure, its a headline grabber and is devastating at what it does. But it is absolutely soulless. Few modern Suzukis envoke the kind of nostalgia required for classic status I think.
I disagree if the R has the rep of having an attitude and therefore an future classic then the same goes for a Busa, when it was released it was in National news papers and brought about restriction rules, I remember going on one and being nervous but obviously excited. Buying and jumping on my 929 was a novelty and an outstanding bike, but there was nothing cult about it and the R1 had the better press.
996 sps said:
I disagree if the R has the rep of having an attitude and therefore an future classic then the same goes for a Busa, when it was released it was in National news papers and brought about restriction rules, I remember going on one and being nervous but obviously excited. Buying and jumping on my 929 was a novelty and an outstanding bike, but there was nothing cult about it and the R1 had the better press.
Like I said, the 'busa certainly is a headline grabber, but soul? Non. Its a bike with a rocket on it. And not a very comfy one.Whoever accused a Hayabusa of having attitude? Its the biking Veyron of its time.
The R1 was a better bike overall, I think thats agreed. But I still think the 929 will be a standout in Honda's history. Which typically gives it classic status.
Check the used prices. Theyre not cheap, even now.
308mate said:
podman said:
Your looking for benchmark bikes, something that moved the game on and grabbed headlines at the time.
In no way will that include a TL-R1000, the "S" Yes but not the "R". Same goes for the 929cc blades, always second fiddle to the R1 of teh era and didnt push the game forward in any area..nice bike but no future classic.
My slightly obscure vote would be for an immaculate early full power Hayabusa,1999 -2000 model-they will become collectable and sought after pretty soon.
No.In no way will that include a TL-R1000, the "S" Yes but not the "R". Same goes for the 929cc blades, always second fiddle to the R1 of teh era and didnt push the game forward in any area..nice bike but no future classic.
My slightly obscure vote would be for an immaculate early full power Hayabusa,1999 -2000 model-they will become collectable and sought after pretty soon.
I take your point about benchmark bikes, but being a benchmark isnt the only thing that makes a classic.
The TLS is a bike that had a bed rep at the time, but was actually quite good. Notoriety alone gives it classic status. The R is less so, I will admit. But it has racing pedigree, was underrated, makes a beautiful sound, odd looks - definite potential as a classic I would say.
The 929, as I said moved the brand on and was a delicious bike in every aspect. It was a leap in design for Honda and was so fast AND comfortable, being the first of a new design philosophy for Honda after an iconic series of bikes , I would argue it will be become a classic Honda model.
The Hayabusa? Sure, its a headline grabber and is devastating at what it does. But it is absolutely soulless. Few modern Suzukis envoke the kind of nostalgia required for classic status I think.
A Busa on full bore is far from lacking soul IMHO
The 929 Blade was a leap in what area exactly for Honda? First Blade with a 17" wheel and F.I? Doesnt make for a classic and it wasnt exactly over endowed in the old engine department.
Time will tell I guess....!
308mate said:
[Like I said, the 'busa certainly is a headline grabber, but soul? Non. Its a bike with a rocket on it. And not a very comfy one.
Lots of soul in the Busa , coming up 9 years with mine now and I wouldnt swap her for anything out there You must be a very big bloke to have found it uncomfortable
Busamav said:
308mate said:
[Like I said, the 'busa certainly is a headline grabber, but soul? Non. Its a bike with a rocket on it. And not a very comfy one.
Lots of soul in the Busa , coming up 9 years with mine now and I wouldnt swap her for anything out there You must be a very big bloke to have found it uncomfortable
graham22 said:
VF750F
Looked very right in it's day, got good reviews until the cams destructed the motors - rode one years ago & liked it, haven't seen one for ages.
Looks even better as a high barred race bike - you can be Fred (Spencer or Merkell- I know both pictures are Spencer)
I had one of those bd things , it made me vow never to buy another Honda.Looked very right in it's day, got good reviews until the cams destructed the motors - rode one years ago & liked it, haven't seen one for ages.
Looks even better as a high barred race bike - you can be Fred (Spencer or Merkell- I know both pictures are Spencer)
When it " nipped up " on the M3 flat on the tank in 5th , I just got the clutch in and after slowing with the thing still running on 3 I rode her the 15 miles to Tippet motors and dumped her there .
Oil ways were bunged solid with spent alloy and the motor was a total write off.
I had had it with that bike and Honda, glad to see a 3 year old bike sold for scrap.
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