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muhuha said:
As mentioned above if your set on a sport bike image skip to the 600's most fo the 400's are a little small
See I'm not sure on bike type, that's an area I need to research more. The CBR400RR was just something I found when looking at 400s.- goes off to get insurance quotes on some 600s
muhuha said:
Filled my srad up for 18pounds 
beats the car all day long.
That is because it has a smaller tank than the car. I wonder how much fuel some of these boys that thrape their litre sports bike each weekend are using. beats the car all day long.£210 fully comp, 5999 miles/year, brother as named rider on a K6 SV. Might need to up the mileage
Willy Nilly said:
That is because it has a smaller tank than the car. I wonder how much fuel some of these boys that thrape their litre sports bike each weekend are using.
£210 fully comp, 5999 miles/year, brother as named rider on a K6 SV. Might need to up the mileage
I get a maximum 150 miles from a tank on a S1000RR no matter how I ride on the road, a tankful costs around £20.£210 fully comp, 5999 miles/year, brother as named rider on a K6 SV. Might need to up the mileage
My old car used to deliver 230 miles for £80, I could stretch that to 270 driving borigly, or drop it to 190 if I thrashed it.
Current car gives 280 miles from £80 based on the same criteria.
The key aspect of the bike's economy over car's in commutes is that the bike is always moving, whereas the car sits in a 5 mile jams doing nothing other than drinking petrol.
On track a tank will do 80 miles maximum.
Marf said:
Just got a quote of £263 on a 2001 SV650, 0NCB, fully comp, 5000 miles and one at fault accident. I don't get bike insurance 
That seems really really cheap!
Have we checked the insurance costs for a 600? Please do! Typying whilst rather drunk, so excuse if this has been repeated.....but you'll want s 600......at least.That seems really really cheap!
Marf said:
Just got a quote of £263 on a 2001 SV650, 0NCB, fully comp, 5000 miles and one at fault accident. I don't get bike insurance
That seems really really cheap!
In a nutshell. Bikes are a minority vehicle, insurers lack the expertise to underwrite this effectively. Overall, the costs of compensation on bike insurance expressed as a percentage of premium income is lower (but comparable to cars), but in sheer pounds, shillings & pence is a fraction of the overall Motor book for insurers. For that reason it's not getting the scrutiny that car insurance is, but it is still rising albeit much more slowly.That seems really really cheap!
Don't complain, eventually cost will rise nearer to those of car insurance. For info, the quotes you're getting are probably 10 - 15% higher than they would've been last year though
R1 Loon said:
In a nutshell. Bikes are a minority vehicle, insurers lack the expertise to underwrite this effectively. Overall, the costs of compensation on bike insurance expressed as a percentage of premium income is lower (but comparable to cars), but in sheer pounds, shillings & pence is a fraction of the overall Motor book for insurers. For that reason it's not getting the scrutiny that car insurance is, but it is still rising albeit much more slowly.
Don't complain, eventually cost will rise nearer to those of car insurance. For info, the quotes you're getting are probably 10 - 15% higher than they would've been last year though
Interesting thanks, definitely not complaining! When I did the first quote this morning I thought I'd entered something wrong on the quote. Don't complain, eventually cost will rise nearer to those of car insurance. For info, the quotes you're getting are probably 10 - 15% higher than they would've been last year though
Marf said:
£600 for a GSX-R 600.
What else should I be looking at?
Not that for a first bike.What else should I be looking at?
You're better off with getting something that isn't so revvy to start with. Super sports bikes are all a bit dull under 8,000 revs and you'll never really learn to ride properly unless you get something that won't tear your arms off above 8,000 revs.
SV650S, Bandit S, Hornet, CBR600F, Fazer 600 are all good starter bikes and you can change them ater a year if you get bored.
If you get a fully faired bike and drop it, you'll be in for a shock!
Thundercats are good and cheaper than the equivalent CBR600Fs, on the whole
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I got bitten by the bike bug last year - on holiday seeing family and noticed in a dark corner of my uncle's shed a faintly familier sight from my youth, a 20+ yr old Honda 175cc trail bike that my uncle still uses daily. I remember being sat on the tank and being driven around on it.
Anyway; i persuaded my uncle to let me have a go (despite being dressed in Tshirt, shorts and flipflops). Had a blast up the road and loved it.
Got back to the UK and booked a GetOn session with local training school - pootled around the car park for an hour mainly in first and second gear.
The School then offered me my CBT for £75 rather than the usual £90 as I'd done the GetOn scheme with them.
Did the CBT then did my DAS over the course of a few months.
Passed my Mod 2 in Feb.
Anyway; i persuaded my uncle to let me have a go (despite being dressed in Tshirt, shorts and flipflops). Had a blast up the road and loved it.
Got back to the UK and booked a GetOn session with local training school - pootled around the car park for an hour mainly in first and second gear.
The School then offered me my CBT for £75 rather than the usual £90 as I'd done the GetOn scheme with them.
Did the CBT then did my DAS over the course of a few months.
Passed my Mod 2 in Feb.
R1 Loon said:
Marf said:
£600 for a GSX-R 600.
What else should I be looking at?
Not that for a first bike.What else should I be looking at?
R1 Loon said:
You're better off with getting something that isn't so revvy to start with. Super sports bikes are all a bit dull under 8,000 revs and you'll never really learn to ride properly unless you get something that won't tear your arms off above 8,000 revs.
SV650S, Bandit S, Hornet, CBR600F, Fazer 600 are all good starter bikes and you can change them ater a year if you get bored.
SV650S £294.76SV650S, Bandit S, Hornet, CBR600F, Fazer 600 are all good starter bikes and you can change them ater a year if you get bored.
Bandit S £283.85
Hornet £283.85
CBR600F £413.44
Fazer 600 £280.42
I think theres a pattern here
R1 Loon said:
If you get a fully faired bike and drop it, you'll be in for a shock!
Fairing parts expensive to replace then?andrew311 said:
I suspect more and more performance car drivers are considering this of late. I’ve been at it for 2 years and never looked back. My bike is primarily for commuting and for fun when the weather gets better, the car is the work horse and for doing everything that the bike can’t. I had some nice cars in my time but since having a bike getting a performance car is just an itch that has never returned.
This.And I'm on the 33bhp route, too. Even that's enough so that suddenly cars aren't that interesting.
Marf said:
So after 8 years of performance car ownership I've started to "Think Bike" as it were.
With both insurance and fuel costs rising rapidly I'm thinking about selling off my daily driver 300hp MR2 Turbo, buying a diesel slag to run daily, and then doing my bike test and getting a weekend toy.
There's a place nearby I can do the Get On scheme free ride to see if its really for me or not, and I'm blown away at how little the insurance would be!
Thinking about a 400 for my first bike. Insurance on say a CBR400RR is £283 for my first year which really surprised me.
Am I nuts?
Keen to hear from anyone else who has ditched performance cars for some 2 wheeled madness!
I did my DAS in September and bought a CB600FA-A (100bhp, quite light at about 180kg, ABS). I've not ditched the performance cars as cars are still more my thing, I've 8 trackays booked this year With both insurance and fuel costs rising rapidly I'm thinking about selling off my daily driver 300hp MR2 Turbo, buying a diesel slag to run daily, and then doing my bike test and getting a weekend toy.
There's a place nearby I can do the Get On scheme free ride to see if its really for me or not, and I'm blown away at how little the insurance would be!
Thinking about a 400 for my first bike. Insurance on say a CBR400RR is £283 for my first year which really surprised me.
Am I nuts?
Keen to hear from anyone else who has ditched performance cars for some 2 wheeled madness!
Edited by Marf on Monday 21st March 14:30
I use the bike to do my 40 mile commute on, I do enjoy riding but not enough to loose my cars for.
Marf said:
R1 Loon said:
If you get a fully faired bike and drop it, you'll be in for a shock!
Fairing parts expensive to replace then?Thats why I opted for a SV650s (half-faired model) for my first bike: for fear of doing the classic beginner mistake and dropping it! I have'nt done so yet (9 months since gaining my license).
I certainly intend to do the sportsbike thing eventually but knew I didn't want one straight off. Its the power delivery, riding position, and more extreme/focused handling that I didn't want. Very happy with my SV and it will do me for another year at least. Just starting to feel like I'm really riding it now, having got back out on some fun roads again now the weather has turned. It does lack the top end of the sports 600s but out riding with friends of similar ability on their sportsbikes it is not noticable as most of the time they aren't wringing the neck of their bikes.
My shortlist of 600s was: Fazer/Hornet/Bandit/SV. I favoured the Fazer the most but could not find one in reasonable condition for my budget of £2k. Next was Hornet but again those which did turn up went really quick! Started looking at SVs and there was loads for sale. Picked mine up for £1900 on 17k which wasn't bad for a '03 model (newer style facelift) but it did have no history.
Herman Toothrot said:
I've not ditched the performance cars as cars are still more my thing, I've 8 trackays booked this year I use the bike to do my 40 mile commute on, I do enjoy riding but not enough to lose my cars for.
I'm in this camp too. Learning to ride was partly prompted by starting a new job with a motorway commute rather than my previous train journey. Knew sitting in traffic every day would drive me insane so got a bike. Basically passed and started riding 116 miles a day right through the summer. If I want to have a proper hoon car wins everytime though. Perhaps because I am a more confident and skilled (?!) driver, perhaps an element of self preservation! I use the bike to do my 40 mile commute on, I do enjoy riding but not enough to lose my cars for.Can see myself getting more into biking though, and they are more affordable if I need to save some cash.
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