eat your heart out!

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gerjo

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1,627 posts

283 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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Marshy

2,748 posts

285 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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Do you currently have any fillings?

Thom

2,745 posts

274 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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What is that new trend for ridiculous big wheels??
Excuse me but nothing can prevent me from making the "max power" comparison

sybaseian

1,826 posts

276 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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You need a really BIG rear spoiler on that - then it would look really cool..........

kerniki

430 posts

283 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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mmmm.......

gerjo

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283 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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my problem with the "standard" 7 spoke of the 500 is that it's just too small!
Compared to the latest Tuscans and Tamora's (17 and 18")and also other "real" sports cars (Ferrari, Aston, God forgive me Porsche) they look like baby wheels, making the aggressive beast look tame.
With larger wheels, there is nothing that can beat a Griff (for looks that is).

craigalsop

1,991 posts

269 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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my problem with the "standard" 7 spoke of the 500 is that it's just too small!
Compared to the latest Tuscans and Tamora's (17 and 18")and also other "real" sports cars (Ferrari, Aston, God forgive me Porsche) they look like baby wheels, making the aggressive beast look tame.
With larger wheels, there is nothing that can beat a Griff (for looks that is).


I think it looks perfect on the standard wheels - the bigger ones look silly. I think the same for the other cars that you mention. Does no-one care about handling anymore? Is it all about looking max-power? I would say, save your money, keep the moral high ground & let your car handle better!

All IMHO of course,
Craig

s_willy

9,699 posts

275 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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Those look like 17" Kahn RSR's, in which case you are a man with good taste.

powelly

490 posts

283 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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Nope. Something missing... ah yes, got it:

1. Neon lights under sills
2. Oakley sticker in rear window
3. BIGGER exhausts
4. Colour coded sun visor

Then it would be really cool......

sybaseian

1,826 posts

276 months

Thursday 30th May 2002
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my problem with the "standard" 7 spoke of the 500 is that it's just too small!
Compared to the latest Tuscans and Tamora's (17 and 18")and also other "real" sports cars (Ferrari, Aston, God forgive me Porsche) they look like baby wheels, making the aggressive beast look tame.
With larger wheels, there is nothing that can beat a Griff (for looks that is).



stick a 16 rear on the front with a 225 like the last 100 griffs - that should even it up a bit and shouldn't effect the handling very much......

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Leadfoot

1,901 posts

282 months

Thursday 30th May 2002
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What sizes are you going for? The pic looks a bit out of proportion - hopefully not when it comes to the real thing.
Always thought that 16" front/17" rear in the original style would look good.

Azzurri

15 posts

264 months

Thursday 30th May 2002
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I must admit those alloys look great, but the only worry I would have is how it would handle afterwards.
16'OZ SuperT's would be my preference.

gerjo

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Thursday 30th May 2002
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What sizes are you going for? The pic looks a bit out of proportion - hopefully not when it comes to the real thing.
Always thought that 16" front/17" rear in the original style would look good.


17" at the front
17 or 18" at the rear: not finally decided yet, I will have the dealer show me both sizes next to the car

gerjo

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Nope. Something missing... ah yes, got it:

1. Neon lights under sills
2. Oakley sticker in rear window
3. BIGGER exhausts
4. Colour coded sun visor

Then it would be really cool......


you must hate the Cerbera's, Tuscans and Tamora's with 17 and 18" wheels then. I for one love them, although for me the Griff is the ultimate.

richb

51,605 posts

285 months

Thursday 30th May 2002
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I assume all these people who say it'll ruin the handling are speaking from experience? Must have been expensive changing all the wheels to make the comparisons then reverting back Rich...

shpub

8,507 posts

273 months

Thursday 30th May 2002
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I assume all these people who say it'll ruin the handling are speaking from experience? Must have been expensive changing all the wheels to make the comparisons then reverting back Rich...



Well yes actually been there done that. Not a problem if you have 5 sets of wheels and a wide selection of tyres to choose from... including slicks and wets!

In my extensive experience, changing the wheel size does effect the handling and the less complient the wheel tyre combination the more stress it puts on components like suspension bushes, ball joints and so on. The problem is how much and that is really hard to tell because it all depends on how extreme you go and your driving style and how bumpy the road is. Tyre pressure and choice of tyre are also part of the equation.

It also seems to change the geometry and I would strongly advise getting the settings checked and realigned if necessary.

Pot hole damage starts to become a real concern as well as the thinner wheel styles are not as resilient at coping with with knocks... talk to the Tuscan drivers about that...

If the reason behind the change is because it looks good then go ahead and do it as it is unlikely the potential pitfalls and problems will carry any sway in the argument at all. If you want to sacrifice some ride comfort for better handling then that is also OK but be aware that if the car is pushed hard, it will increase the stress on the car. The trouble is one person's pushing hard is another's poodling so some may see a problem, others won't.

I have seen problems with lower profile tyres. I'm prepared to live with them on the 520 but not on the Griff.

Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk

gerjo

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283 months

Thursday 30th May 2002
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as always very clear Steve, thanks

yes I want better looks, yes I want better handling

if the new wheels give me trouble (although most people I have talked to who have chosen for bigger wheels don't have any) I will go back to Koni Race Dept who setup my car originally

raceboy

13,120 posts

281 months

Thursday 30th May 2002
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I'd go for a big brake conversion as well if I was you, as the standard Ford Sierra brack discs are going to look like penny washers inside the rims

apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Thursday 30th May 2002
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It's all down to what you want, you paid for your car, it's yours to do with as you please. Purists exist everywhere in every form, quite right too, but some of us want a touch of individuality, which is why we bought TVR,s and not Boxters. I have been into personalising vehicles since I rode Harleys and although mellowed with age still love to see the character of the owner come through in a vehicle. (f**k knows what my car says about me)As usual Steve is talking from a practical point of view (but I notice his V8S looks the business) Obviously the factory setup is the optimum and altering it is leaving youself open to critisism sp? but I feel my car runs truer than it ever did on standard wheels, tramlines less and gives better feedback, it does hate potholes however. So cut us some slack here, I don't want another blue/green magnolia half hide Griff for guaranteed resale value, I don't ever want to sell it. TVR made a unique and beautiful car with the Griffith and it is an inspiation to some to cross the T's and dot the I's.

GreenV8S

30,210 posts

285 months

Thursday 30th May 2002
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As usual Steve is talking from a practical point of view (but I notice his V8S looks the business)




Whats this Steve, have your finally bought yourself a proper car to go with the Griffith and that pointy thing?

Peter Humphries (and a green V8S)