Replacing fork seals without dismantling the fork

Replacing fork seals without dismantling the fork

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Dr Doofenshmirtz

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15,278 posts

201 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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I am a bodging GOD and feeling rather smug!
I am now willing to reveal the method free for lucky BB members.

The Doofenshmirtz guide to replacing fork seals without dismantling the whole fork...
1] Pop off the dust seal
2] Remove the inner retaining clip
3] You may want to wrap something around the fork leg at this point. This is because you aren't as awesome as me, and may damage the chrome plating with your hamfistedness. Using a small centre punch, tap three points around the old seal, being careful not to go too near to the fork leg.
4] Using a hand drill (remember them?) drill three small 2mm holes into the old seal. Be careful though eigh. Make sure the drill doesn't slip!
5] Carefully screw three self tappers into the holes you just made. You only need to tap them in enough to grip the inner metal of the seal.
6] Ease out the old seal with a pair of pliers one corner at a time thus...








Awesomeness.

3doorPete

9,917 posts

235 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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A real bodging God would have used Mole grips in there at some point and possibly a hammer. hehe

Too much risk of damaging the chrome stanchions for my liking.

As Len Goodman would say, a bodging score of SeVENNN

Edited by 3doorPete on Thursday 26th April 12:22

Yazza54

18,590 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Rough as a badgers arse tongue out

mrmr96

13,736 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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3doorPete said:
A real bodging God would have used Mole grips in there at some point
O Rly?

The photos show him using "snips" as "pliers" which constitutes more of a bodge than using mole grips, which could be argued as being almost the right tool for pulling stuff!

RizzoTheRat

25,218 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Another bodge I've seen is take the cap off the top, fill completely with oil, then compress it to pop the seal out. Seen one video of it working but tried it on a mates Forestorm with truely shagged seals and the seal blew instead of popping out.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

Original Poster:

15,278 posts

201 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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3doorPete said:
A real bodging God would have used Mole grips in there at some point and possibly a hammer.hehe

Too much risk of damaging the chrome stanchions for my liking.

As Len Goodman would say, a bodging score of SeVENNN
Everyone knows you hammer the new seals into place. Goes without saying, right?

Jazoli

9,116 posts

251 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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It's a good bodge, I've seen it done before but seeing as it only takes an extra 10 minutes to do the job properly I wouldn't bother, time is cheaper than new stantions if you cock it up.

RizzoTheRat

25,218 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Doing it properly ususally involves slide hammering the bushes out and every time I've done that I've needed to replace the bushes as its damaged the coating on them

Iang84

962 posts

167 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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If you give the outer some heat around the seal area then it makes it alot easier to take the stanchion out mine came out with barely any resistance 1 tug on one and 2 tugs on the other

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Jazoli said:
It's a good bodge, I've seen it done before but seeing as it only takes an extra 10 minutes to do the job properly I wouldn't bother, time is cheaper than new stantions if you cock it up.
+1 ... and you still have manky oil in the bottom of the forks...

taffyv8

1 posts

81 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Related to this topic, how would a bodger god support a faired bike to get the forks out without taking the fairing off?
Take five scaffold pole off-cuts and four 90 degree clamps to create a beam across the handlebars as shown in the pics.
Raise the front forks with scissor jacks (the slots in the jacks fit nicely over the fork knuckles).
Now pass a ratchet strap twice around the head-stock and the cross beam to support the front of the bike. I don't use
the ratchet due to space limitations but just secure the straps with half-hitches and cable ties.
You can now remove the front wheel, mudguard etc. and then slip the forks out of the yokes.


Edited by taffyv8 on Tuesday 22 August 14:20


Edited by taffyv8 on Tuesday 22 August 14:22

Jazoli

9,116 posts

251 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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taffyv8 said:
Related to this topic, how would a bodger god support a faired bike to get the forks out without taking the fairing off?
Take five scaffold pole off-cuts and four 90 degree clamps to create a beam across the handlebars as shown in the pics.
Raise the front forks with scissor jacks (the slots in the jacks fit nicely over the fork knuckles).
Now pass a ratchet strap twice around the head-stock and the cross beam to support the front of the bike. I don't use
the ratchet due to space limitations but just secure the straps with half-hitches and cable ties.
You can now remove the front wheel, mudguard etc. and then slip the forks out of the yokes.


Edited by taffyv8 on Tuesday 22 August 14:20


Edited by taffyv8 on Tuesday 22 August 14:22
You could have just put a trolley or scissor jack under the downpipes with the bike on its sidestand.

robbocop33

1,184 posts

108 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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I often thought it would be a great thread to start, basically a list of people's top bodges, tips.
Best tip i discovered one day, although i got the initial idea online, i discovered by chance a good tool to inject the grease, for removing seized pistons in calipers.
You need to get hold of one of those old fashioned grease guns, pic below. I found by pure chance if you unscrew the tip off the grease gun, you're left with a threaded part, this screwed perfectly into the brake flexi hole in the caliper!!
Piece of piss getting 'any' seized pistons out. You can scoop most of the grease out when pistons come out. Here's the gun.

Private Pile

754 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Taff, yer a bodger lightweight



Dog Star

16,154 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Private Pile said:
Taff, yer a bodger lightweight


rofl



Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Thursday 24th August 2017
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LOL!

Why not just use a scissor jack and bit of wood under the downpipes?!


Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Thursday 24th August 2017
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anonymous said:
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nearly all bodges are a bad idea

Rubin215

3,993 posts

157 months

Thursday 24th August 2017
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Hmm.

The Canadians even use a special tool for removing seals...


graham22

3,295 posts

206 months

Thursday 24th August 2017
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Drill, screws & pliers to remove a fork seal, far to complicated, hammer & screwdriver does the job just as well.

Regular occurrence on a KX250 I used to hill climb after accidently striking a welding rod on the fork stantion while welding a steering damper bracket to the frame - wondered what the arc was beside my ear.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Thursday 24th August 2017
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anonymous said:
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If you're doing it on a centre stand it's not actually much weight on the pipes, but totally agree, they're not rated for any weight, so it's not the best idea. It's not actually very stable either so there is a risk of it falling. I'd just argue it's safer than precariously balancing bricks, and easier than a scaffold pole cradle!

You can buy headstock stands for about £30 or so. That's the only way I would do it properly, but I must admit to using this bodge when I change wheels on my old CBR.

I am a notorious bodger though... I'll have to come back to this thread when I think of something I'm not too embarrassed to share!