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Totally agree Classic Chim about reliability. I 've had the pleasure of owning TVR's of one sort or another for 18 years now and only had to call the RAC on one occasion - that being a POT-HOLE tyre blow out!
On the other side of the coin, my other half purchased a brand new V/x Adam and so far the Power Steering has failed, the Air Con has played up twice and now their is a ESP Light on the dashboard (ABS Failure). Mind you, the car is only 2 years old and done 11,000 miles!
On the other side of the coin, my other half purchased a brand new V/x Adam and so far the Power Steering has failed, the Air Con has played up twice and now their is a ESP Light on the dashboard (ABS Failure). Mind you, the car is only 2 years old and done 11,000 miles!
rockits said:
Very nice....no idea what value tbh. Keep it is my advice....why sell?
I'm confused now is there 2 forum cars here Baconsarney & Classic Chim's? Both nice cars & both potentially for sale?
If you are looking, I keep thinking about selling mine. In the least 10 years, my mileage has dropped from 5000 pa in the TVR with the 1st one, to 3000, to 1000 and a low of 185 miles last year! It hardly gets used since I bought the Boxster, a bit like what happened to my Stag when I got the TVR.I'm confused now is there 2 forum cars here Baconsarney & Classic Chim's? Both nice cars & both potentially for sale?
I have just taxed it again and insurance is due this week. On the plus side, me and the lad popped out today and the acceleration is very addictive! If I don’t sell it, it is ASBO time, with a fully sleeved exhaust!
citizen smith said:
Totally agree Classic Chim about reliability. I 've had the pleasure of owning TVR's of one sort or another for 18 years now and only had to call the RAC on one occasion - that being a POT-HOLE tyre blow out!
On the other side of the coin, my other half purchased a brand new V/x Adam and so far the Power Steering has failed, the Air Con has played up twice and now their is a ESP Light on the dashboard (ABS Failure). Mind you, the car is only 2 years old and done 11,000 miles!
18 years and counting by the sound of that. On the other side of the coin, my other half purchased a brand new V/x Adam and so far the Power Steering has failed, the Air Con has played up twice and now their is a ESP Light on the dashboard (ABS Failure). Mind you, the car is only 2 years old and done 11,000 miles!
The reliability of almost all the basic components can be very good indeed. We just don’t hear people shouting about it on here until the immobiliser plays up!
This is really why I can’t replace mine, I know it and it’s little newaunces and believe it’s basically very sound mechanically and electrically for years and years with a considerate driving attitude being used.
The Chassis is what it is and when I can do a body lift it’s not some rocket science just a lot of graft.
Funnily other than the usual sticky immobiliser before Mbe install my car has never had a failed bulb or electrical problems other than a worn wiper stalk. £30 incl postage from a Vauxhall parts supplier
With modern paints or other processes available the chassis can be protected for literally decades I reckon. Every one that’s had a proper costing applied should go on a long old time. The future looks rosy overall.
Oh bugger I forgot my speedo wanders,,,, not the worst thing in the world and fairly common.
I’ve always used my rev counter to ascertain my speed using a sat nav so never bothered getting it fixed, it’s about time I removed it and sent it off. Winters coming, good as any time to get it repaired, I’ve checked and re set the sensor on the Dif, made no difference
I should start with replacing that but do believe it’s a speedo fault. Compared to cars that are classed as more exotic none of these things are exactly expensive.
Edited by Classic Chim on Saturday 15th September 16:08
TV8 said:
If you are looking, I keep thinking about selling mine. In the least 10 years, my mileage has dropped from 5000 pa in the TVR with the 1st one, to 3000, to 1000 and a low of 185 miles last year! It hardly gets used since I bought the Boxster, a bit like what happened to my Stag when I got the TVR.
I have just taxed it again and insurance is due this week. On the plus side, me and the lad popped out today and the acceleration is very addictive! If I don’t sell it, it is ASBO time, with a fully sleeved exhaust!
Keep it....that is my advice to anyone on here that have any great examples. However I'm more than happy to look to biy any of these of course I have just taxed it again and insurance is due this week. On the plus side, me and the lad popped out today and the acceleration is very addictive! If I don’t sell it, it is ASBO time, with a fully sleeved exhaust!
However would it be a first to buy two TVR's from the same previous owner and own them both at the same time?
Classic Chim said:
wuckfitracing said:
No it wasn’t knackered. I count my lucky stars that I got out of racing and bought a well priced Chim. Racing was costing me a fortune and time to race was short as I work abroad. I do have better than the average skill level at grease monkeying though. Best advise is buy a 4 post lift and enjoy your garage time as well as driving time. I do.
4 post lift. Ok that’s it then folks, buy a well priced one ( whatever that means ) but make sure you have a double garage high enough to install a 4 post lift. What if you don’t have a two story garage or skill to use a 4 post lift?
Would your advice be don’t buy one unless you have?
You might have a point but it’s not necessarily a very practical one for many people looking in and for probably hundreds of existing TVR owners.
Isn’t this why the higher priced cars that are properly sorted and I don’t just mean shiny chassis and bodywork constitute a good buy to people who don’t or never wish to own a 4 post lift let alone become mechanics.
Let’s also try and keep some perspective on repairs at the good TVR centres, compared to many car marks these garages are in fact very reasonable on labour charges and the parts might have some mark up but comparably are still very reasonable in comparison, let’s not also forget without these garages surviving TVR owners who happen to be accountants or computer whizzo’s or whatever would be stuffed! Still the best parts suppliers overall are the private ones who can’t afford to be overly arrogant and have supported these cars for years.
The Tvr dealerships are now few and far between so people already have to travel long distances in some cases to have maintenance work completed. To some extent supporting these businesses is in all our interests.
I fully agree learning to look after the cars properly is quite an important part of ownership but taking on engine builds or electrical gremlins when you are out of your depth is simply a recipe for disaster and failure of mindset!
You can learn anything if you want too, but maybe some people,, infact most people don’t wish to become rather skilled mechanics just to own a bloody TVR.
I have used various small specialists over the years and still do for many marques. They are the lifeblood of support to many owners. They don't charge anywhere near main dealer rates and have a wealth of knowledge and experience. I do a fair bit myself but don't have as much time as I would like as would do more if I did. I use these indy's for when I don't have the time or it is a job I have never done before. Or is just more cost effective for them to do it when they have done it a thousand times before. These kind of jobs might not be hard but can take twice, thrice or many more times longer when you are doing it the first time. Once you have done it a few times it really cuts down the time.
I did a 4200 project in a wooden shed in my garden that took me about 6 months of some nights and weekends. All on axle stands and basic tools. Right through much of winter as well. Cold and not the best environment but made we want to get the garage done and a lift even more. However there is nothing wrong with doing work without a lift. Just getting a bit older now and want a nicer environment to make my work more comfortable now.
rockits said:
Keep it....that is my advice to anyone on here that have any great examples. However I'm more than happy to look to biy any of these of course
However would it be a first to buy two TVR's from the same previous owner and own them both at the same time?
Do you have my old blue one? I loved that car. However would it be a first to buy two TVR's from the same previous owner and own them both at the same time?
TV8 said:
rockits said:
Keep it....that is my advice to anyone on here that have any great examples. However I'm more than happy to look to biy any of these of course
However would it be a first to buy two TVR's from the same previous owner and own them both at the same time?
Do you have my old blue one? I loved that car. However would it be a first to buy two TVR's from the same previous owner and own them both at the same time?
I have had some dialogue and conversations for some time with the seller of the Pistonheads MK3 Chimaera 450 with 98k miles with POA price over the last few weeks.
I made an offer for the car which he didn't decline to accept just kept it open. Then suggested he didn't feel he would accept my offer as yet as felt it was worth more and he could get more. Fair enough. At this point I normally walk away and say no thanks but in my advancing years I keep an open mind more now so left it be.
I thought for a bit then suggested he furnished me with details of the service history as these were lacking. Also to give me details on the work he had done to the car and how much he had spent as I was told it was substantial. Maybe then I could look at the history & spends to see if I could hit his target ballpark price or increase what I felt the car was worth. Didn't hear anythig for a couple of weeks then get a reply on Friday.
The reply was along the lines of I don’t have any time to go through all the receipts at present but yes I have spent A LOT of money on the car, tons of bits and repairs/upgrades.
Am I being unreasonable and asking for too much? Didn't think I was to be honest. I know I am in the wrong place to say this but most of the market won't give a 98k mile TVR lacking in service details or details of substantial spend the time of day. It is only us nutters (term of endearment!) that would even think about it.
If it was that good and the market wanted it so much it would have been sold by now. The fact it hasn't and has sat unsold for many months with winter bearing down says it all. I think I need to start rephrasing the word 'seller' to 'person advertising car prospectively and will sell if an idiot comes along and pays what I feel it is worth'.
It is a funny old world out there with cars sales at the moment. Some prices are on the floor for various vehicles, there is general softening of the market and prices everywhere. The world is definitely changing that is certain. For better or worse I have no idea....the jury is out on that one.
I made an offer for the car which he didn't decline to accept just kept it open. Then suggested he didn't feel he would accept my offer as yet as felt it was worth more and he could get more. Fair enough. At this point I normally walk away and say no thanks but in my advancing years I keep an open mind more now so left it be.
I thought for a bit then suggested he furnished me with details of the service history as these were lacking. Also to give me details on the work he had done to the car and how much he had spent as I was told it was substantial. Maybe then I could look at the history & spends to see if I could hit his target ballpark price or increase what I felt the car was worth. Didn't hear anythig for a couple of weeks then get a reply on Friday.
The reply was along the lines of I don’t have any time to go through all the receipts at present but yes I have spent A LOT of money on the car, tons of bits and repairs/upgrades.
Am I being unreasonable and asking for too much? Didn't think I was to be honest. I know I am in the wrong place to say this but most of the market won't give a 98k mile TVR lacking in service details or details of substantial spend the time of day. It is only us nutters (term of endearment!) that would even think about it.
If it was that good and the market wanted it so much it would have been sold by now. The fact it hasn't and has sat unsold for many months with winter bearing down says it all. I think I need to start rephrasing the word 'seller' to 'person advertising car prospectively and will sell if an idiot comes along and pays what I feel it is worth'.
It is a funny old world out there with cars sales at the moment. Some prices are on the floor for various vehicles, there is general softening of the market and prices everywhere. The world is definitely changing that is certain. For better or worse I have no idea....the jury is out on that one.
That’s a very strange responce if he does want to sell it. If it’s been on the market for sometime he’s clearly ready to sell it or so you’d think.
At that mileage you’d think he’d be keen to give history details to prove mileage alone isn’t a deal breaker. There’s one that Powers maintains that’s done 200,000 or something like that.
As the cars have got relatively cheaper with far less depreciation than other types I can see many owners will put the miles on enjoying them rather than just park them up so higher mileage examples are going to be more prevalent and not always a bad thing. Someone’s enjoyed that 2003 car for sure.
Is there a possibility the owner has had many enquiries that have ended up falling away so getting tainted. He’d be better off taking it off the forsale list if he can’t be bothered to give a genuine buyer details.
There’s also the possibility he’s realised the market is stuttering and his sale price isn’t going to be what he wants.
Who knows!
Did he give details as to how many owners the cars had, that for me is a very important issue. I just think the longer it’s been owned the better it’s likely to be but hardly a scientific approach.
At that mileage you’d think he’d be keen to give history details to prove mileage alone isn’t a deal breaker. There’s one that Powers maintains that’s done 200,000 or something like that.
As the cars have got relatively cheaper with far less depreciation than other types I can see many owners will put the miles on enjoying them rather than just park them up so higher mileage examples are going to be more prevalent and not always a bad thing. Someone’s enjoyed that 2003 car for sure.
Is there a possibility the owner has had many enquiries that have ended up falling away so getting tainted. He’d be better off taking it off the forsale list if he can’t be bothered to give a genuine buyer details.
There’s also the possibility he’s realised the market is stuttering and his sale price isn’t going to be what he wants.
Who knows!
Did he give details as to how many owners the cars had, that for me is a very important issue. I just think the longer it’s been owned the better it’s likely to be but hardly a scientific approach.
I thought it was a bit of strange response as well tbh. Always worries me a bit as you always feel that something is being hidden or not being divulged.
I don't have a problem with mileage and have a 2006/56 XC90 4.4 V8 I bought from the 1st owner at 190k miles and now has done about 205k miles now with me with full Main Dealer history from new. Cheap car and drives well, always bein glooked after with money spent when required.
The 'seller' told me he had a guy interested and sold the car but the windscreen leaked after the trims works. It was resolved but took a month or longer and the buyer had bought something else by then & didn;t want to wait so pulled out.
Then some other viewings were arranged but they never turned up or bought. Sometimes a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush as they say. I have given up 2nd guessing people these days. I had a few up/down rough years in business and learnt a great deal over that time. I learnt that things and people aren't always as they seem and many other things. Sometimes you have no idea what is going on inside someone else's mind.
The numbers of owners isn't great either on this car as the current owner is number 6. Therefore I would be number 7.
I made an offer that I thought was fair and can't think about increasing it without further details so will cross this one off the list I think. The problem for me is that I have a sneaky suspicion that the chassis is far from perfect as well as I asked for chassis and under-body pictures and never got those either.
I don't have a problem with mileage and have a 2006/56 XC90 4.4 V8 I bought from the 1st owner at 190k miles and now has done about 205k miles now with me with full Main Dealer history from new. Cheap car and drives well, always bein glooked after with money spent when required.
The 'seller' told me he had a guy interested and sold the car but the windscreen leaked after the trims works. It was resolved but took a month or longer and the buyer had bought something else by then & didn;t want to wait so pulled out.
Then some other viewings were arranged but they never turned up or bought. Sometimes a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush as they say. I have given up 2nd guessing people these days. I had a few up/down rough years in business and learnt a great deal over that time. I learnt that things and people aren't always as they seem and many other things. Sometimes you have no idea what is going on inside someone else's mind.
The numbers of owners isn't great either on this car as the current owner is number 6. Therefore I would be number 7.
I made an offer that I thought was fair and can't think about increasing it without further details so will cross this one off the list I think. The problem for me is that I have a sneaky suspicion that the chassis is far from perfect as well as I asked for chassis and under-body pictures and never got those either.
rockits said:
TV8 said:
rockits said:
Keep it....that is my advice to anyone on here that have any great examples. However I'm more than happy to look to biy any of these of course
However would it be a first to buy two TVR's from the same previous owner and own them both at the same time?
Do you have my old blue one? I loved that car. However would it be a first to buy two TVR's from the same previous owner and own them both at the same time?
rockits said:
...........The numbers of owners isn't great either on this car as the current owner is number 6. Therefore I would be number 7...........
For a model the newest of which is 15 years old, the oldest 25, more than a few owners is something you’ll just have to accept as being ‘normal’ IMHO.TV8 said:
If you are looking, I keep thinking about selling mine. In the least 10 years, my mileage has dropped from 5000 pa in the TVR with the 1st one, to 3000, to 1000 and a low of 185 miles last year! It hardly gets used since I bought the Boxster, a bit like what happened to my Stag when I got the TVR.
I have just taxed it again and insurance is due this week. On the plus side, me and the lad popped out today and the acceleration is very addictive! If I don’t sell it, it is ASBO time, with a fully sleeved exhaust!
I'm looking & happy to look at yours if your looking at selling. Feel free to send me over some details.I have just taxed it again and insurance is due this week. On the plus side, me and the lad popped out today and the acceleration is very addictive! If I don’t sell it, it is ASBO time, with a fully sleeved exhaust!
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