Chimaera Prices
Discussion
LLantrisant said:
look...even when you would need to pay 20k for a top-top chmi....the average chim will never arrive in the same condition when investing in total 20k (purchase price, plus repairs and upgrades)....the average chim needs around 15-20k to bring it in that condition....plus purchase price, plus own investment for time etc.
what i want to say: the chim is not a car for any investment (not yet).
So the max. you need to pay for the car would be £5-10k plus £15 -20k for upgrades (new chassis, recon engine,new paint, etc.). what i want to say: the chim is not a car for any investment (not yet).
Not seen many Average Chimaera's for sale @ that low price of £5-10k.
citizen smith said:
So the max. you need to pay for the car would be £5-10k plus £15 -20k for upgrades (new chassis, recon engine,new paint, etc.).
Not seen many Average Chimaera's for sale @ that low price of £5-10k.
Even the odd specialist has them at that price, not just the NE salvage place. This one has been at Tony Gilberts for months. Started at £11,500 I think but now under £10k.Not seen many Average Chimaera's for sale @ that low price of £5-10k.
https://www.classicandsportscar.com/classifieds/cl...
Costs vary hugely depending on whether you wield a debit card or a socket set. I changed my wishbones, suspension, steering, brakes, cooling system & anti-roll bar bushes myself. Refurbishing the seats, dashboard, rocker covers and other engine parts too. I reckon on about 150 hrs so far. I have no ramp or pit so presuming a dealer could do the jobs even 3 times as fast would be 50 hrs, say £3k in labour alone? And those can vary hugely too, especially if you're within the M25. And the drivetrain hasn't been out of the car!
ianwayne said:
Even the odd specialist has them at that price, not just the NE salvage place. This one has been at Tony Gilberts for months. Started at £11,500 I think but now under £10k.
https://www.classicandsportscar.com/classifieds/cl...
Costs vary hugely depending on whether you wield a debit card or a socket set. I changed my wishbones, suspension, steering, brakes, cooling system & anti-roll bar bushes myself. Refurbishing the seats, dashboard, rocker covers and other engine parts too. I reckon on about 150 hrs so far. I have no ramp or pit so presuming a dealer could do the jobs even 3 times as fast would be 50 hrs, say £3k in labour alone? And those can vary hugely too, especially if you're within the M25. And the drivetrain hasn't been out of the car!
guess why the advert does not list any chassis pics?https://www.classicandsportscar.com/classifieds/cl...
Costs vary hugely depending on whether you wield a debit card or a socket set. I changed my wishbones, suspension, steering, brakes, cooling system & anti-roll bar bushes myself. Refurbishing the seats, dashboard, rocker covers and other engine parts too. I reckon on about 150 hrs so far. I have no ramp or pit so presuming a dealer could do the jobs even 3 times as fast would be 50 hrs, say £3k in labour alone? And those can vary hugely too, especially if you're within the M25. And the drivetrain hasn't been out of the car!
"undersealed chassis" ---i hear the alarm bells ringing
anyway...what i can see form the chassis and front suspension on the enginebay pic, looks promising.
but if the outtriggers are shot...and they most likely are...you should pay max 7k.
Funny, but the economics on this are pretty simple really. Prices only rise then demand exceeds supply and crucially demand of quality top end cars exceeds the supply of top end cars. Many owners would have purchased an E type or such similar if in budget so a TVR gets considered then desired then purchased, but at that top whack best condition price.....this resets the bar and thus on a rising tide all boats float. When the profit achievable makes restoring a car viable the low price wrecks get snapped up thus the market gets squeezed at the bottom and demand at the top.....prices rise.
Personally it is a car and regardless of value needs investment and preventative maintenance so that it remains a car and not a SORN junk or art installation. I paid top whack for mine as I am time limited not skills limited and wanted to maximise my driving and not restoring time
Personally it is a car and regardless of value needs investment and preventative maintenance so that it remains a car and not a SORN junk or art installation. I paid top whack for mine as I am time limited not skills limited and wanted to maximise my driving and not restoring time
The best evidence for most things, not just cars, is that they are worth what people will pay. For cars, this usually means auction prices. The idea you can get one for £7k any more is fanciful unless it needs serious attention.
I was at ACA today and a nice Chimaera came through. Recent respray but excellent quality one IMHO. Power steering. Aftermarket exhaust but not loud. Dash needed work. Generally VGC though. I could only see the top chassis rails but they looked to still have their powder coating on. guide was £8k - £10k:
https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/saturday-2...
Several bidders which was nice to see and it went to £10k quickly but not much further. Sold for £10,200. Plus buyers premium which makes it £10,934. And you have to collect it from King's Lynn. So, £11k really, at auction....
I was at ACA today and a nice Chimaera came through. Recent respray but excellent quality one IMHO. Power steering. Aftermarket exhaust but not loud. Dash needed work. Generally VGC though. I could only see the top chassis rails but they looked to still have their powder coating on. guide was £8k - £10k:
https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/saturday-2...
Several bidders which was nice to see and it went to £10k quickly but not much further. Sold for £10,200. Plus buyers premium which makes it £10,934. And you have to collect it from King's Lynn. So, £11k really, at auction....
Hmmm... my Chimaera, a ‘98 500, mint condition, highland pearl, private plate, understated but tasteful, very sorted, uprated brakes and suspension, V8D tweaked lump less than 25k... car less than 55k from new.... 0-60 around 3.8 seconds (in the dry) and around 175 top end. Dyno 360bhp and 354ftlb... decatted.... throttle response and soundtrack awesome..... and it’s not for sale because these prices being discussed are pathetic. Grow some.....
That is all..
That is all..
baconsarney said:
Hmmm... my Chimaera, a ‘98 500, mint condition, highland pearl, private plate, understated but tasteful, very sorted, uprated brakes and suspension, V8D tweaked lump less than 25k... car less than 55k from new.... 0-60 around 3.8 seconds (in the dry) and around 175 top end. Dyno 360bhp and 354ftlb... decatted.... throttle response and soundtrack awesome..... and it’s not for sale because these prices being discussed are pathetic. Grow some.....
That is all..
Why the aggression? If it's so 'awesome', it's far from standard and not to be compared with 'standard' car values that were raised in this thread.That is all..
I've gown plenty thanks. If you want your ego massaging, try faceache.
I think he’s just trying to say in his inimitable way 
They are all worth more than that,,, but that’s a good price at auction for sure. Re spray won’t have been cheap either if it’s any good.
Second hand you have to look for the pro’ s and con’s in each vehicle and add up its sum worth.
When you add up the cost of taking an old one and bringing it back to rude health it’s nearly always cheaper to buy one that has the spec and quality your after, usually by anything from 2-10k cheaper than paying out for re sprays, engine re fresh, chassis interior it’s an expensive game.
It’s very easy to get to 25k
But by eck what a car you’ll have.
They are all worth more than that,,, but that’s a good price at auction for sure. Re spray won’t have been cheap either if it’s any good.
Second hand you have to look for the pro’ s and con’s in each vehicle and add up its sum worth.
When you add up the cost of taking an old one and bringing it back to rude health it’s nearly always cheaper to buy one that has the spec and quality your after, usually by anything from 2-10k cheaper than paying out for re sprays, engine re fresh, chassis interior it’s an expensive game.
It’s very easy to get to 25k
But by eck what a car you’ll have.
Stu-nph26 said:
That is a great looking car. I saw it in the flesh just after they had taken it in, looks like a nearly new roof and the interior is great, likewise paintwork, didnt see under hood or underneath, apparently it needs outriggers as mentioned in the ad, but they are going to sort before sale at that price, i got the impression that a deal could be done for as is, for anyone wanting to take the outriggers on themselves. They also have a green one in, with a very impressivly tidy engine bay and previous body off resto’. 
sawman said:
That is a great looking car. I saw it in the flesh just after they had taken it in, looks like a nearly new roof and the interior is great, likewise paintwork, didnt see under hood or underneath, apparently it needs outriggers as mentioned in the ad, but they are going to sort before sale at that price, i got the impression that a deal could be done for as is, for anyone wanting to take the outriggers on themselves. They also have a green one in, with a very impressivly tidy engine bay and previous body off resto’.
Yea it really does look the part I'm on the lookout for a Tuscan but that has caught my eye may drive down and take a look. I'd need to change the wheels though can't stand the originals.Amazing what the prices of these are doing, I assume most aren't shifting at the moment?
I thought i'd have no trouble selling mine at £12-13k with outriggers, suspension, clutch and new tyres in the last 12 months but only had a couple of calls and one viewing over the last two weeks.
I have to admit that its higher mileage (116k) but a strong colour combo and good condition car. If mine doesn't sell I'll just keep it, no point giving these things away
I thought i'd have no trouble selling mine at £12-13k with outriggers, suspension, clutch and new tyres in the last 12 months but only had a couple of calls and one viewing over the last two weeks.
I have to admit that its higher mileage (116k) but a strong colour combo and good condition car. If mine doesn't sell I'll just keep it, no point giving these things away
Jon Brown said:
Amazing what the prices of these are doing, I assume most aren't shifting at the moment?
I thought i'd have no trouble selling mine at £12-13k with outriggers, suspension, clutch and new tyres in the last 12 months but only had a couple of calls and one viewing over the last two weeks.
I have to admit that its higher mileage (116k) but a strong colour combo and good condition car. If mine doesn't sell I'll just keep it, no point giving these things away
Not the best time of year to be selling, get into April and you might find it goes in no time? If it's the one I think it is (seen on Facebook) it looks great.I thought i'd have no trouble selling mine at £12-13k with outriggers, suspension, clutch and new tyres in the last 12 months but only had a couple of calls and one viewing over the last two weeks.
I have to admit that its higher mileage (116k) but a strong colour combo and good condition car. If mine doesn't sell I'll just keep it, no point giving these things away
That said, I bought my 400hc from a well know TVR dealer back in 2016, on 74k miles, with a recent £4k overhaul at Central TVR including outriggers, new hood, suspension, clutch, re-trimmed interior including leather door-cards, after-burner rear lights, and couple of other odd things.
It cost me £11,995 and that obviously carried a dealer premium.
There have been some seemingly great cars changing hands recently for £10k, and even some 430s & 450s being advertised at £12k-£13k. Prices do seem incredibly static.
Additionally, there seems to be a huge price differential for sub-60k mileage cars. Everyone on here screams buy on condition, not mileage when a newbie comes along asking for advice, yet the 'triggers broom' 100k+ cars where almost everything has been replaced/upgraded still get ignored in favour of the 'original' 50k mile examples needing a £20k restoration...
If you like the car, I'd say hang onto it- perhaps try again in the summer, when someone coming along to view on a hot sunny day may well get carried away with the excitement and hand over the full asking on the first car they view.
It's what I did...
Squirrelofwoe said:
Not the best time of year to be selling, get into April and you might find it goes in no time? If it's the one I think it is (seen on Facebook) it looks great.
That said, I bought my 400hc from a well know TVR dealer back in 2016, on 74k miles, with a recent £4k overhaul at Central TVR including outriggers, new hood, suspension, clutch, re-trimmed interior including leather door-cards, after-burner rear lights, and couple of other odd things.
It cost me £11,995 and that obviously carried a dealer premium.
There have been some seemingly great cars changing hands recently for £10k, and even some 430s & 450s being advertised at £12k-£13k. Prices do seem incredibly static.
Additionally, there seems to be a huge price differential for sub-60k mileage cars. Everyone on here screams buy on condition, not mileage when a newbie comes along asking for advice, yet the 'triggers broom' 100k+ cars where almost everything has been replaced/upgraded still get ignored in favour of the 'original' 50k mile examples needing a £20k restoration...
If you like the car, I'd say hang onto it- perhaps try again in the summer, when someone coming along to view on a hot sunny day may well get carried away with the excitement and hand over the full asking on the first car they view.
It's what I did...
It probably is the car your thinking of, its advertised pretty much everywhere. I'm sure your right and I have seen some good deals for sale over the last year and plenty of pretty questionable looking cars.That said, I bought my 400hc from a well know TVR dealer back in 2016, on 74k miles, with a recent £4k overhaul at Central TVR including outriggers, new hood, suspension, clutch, re-trimmed interior including leather door-cards, after-burner rear lights, and couple of other odd things.
It cost me £11,995 and that obviously carried a dealer premium.
There have been some seemingly great cars changing hands recently for £10k, and even some 430s & 450s being advertised at £12k-£13k. Prices do seem incredibly static.
Additionally, there seems to be a huge price differential for sub-60k mileage cars. Everyone on here screams buy on condition, not mileage when a newbie comes along asking for advice, yet the 'triggers broom' 100k+ cars where almost everything has been replaced/upgraded still get ignored in favour of the 'original' 50k mile examples needing a £20k restoration...
If you like the car, I'd say hang onto it- perhaps try again in the summer, when someone coming along to view on a hot sunny day may well get carried away with the excitement and hand over the full asking on the first car they view.
It's what I did...
I wont be renewing any adverts when they run out until the spring and see what happens then
Where are you based? Amore Autos are good and helpful to talk to, I personally find a lot of the often mentioned TVR dealers are overpriced, even though the cars are prepared to a high standard, but they must be selling to keep pricing them like that. Certainly wouldn't hesitate to pop to Amore though
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