Chim/Griff Engine mounts - Common to anything else?

Chim/Griff Engine mounts - Common to anything else?

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geeman237

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575 posts

124 months

Monday 14th January
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I need a pair of engine mounts. Anyone know if they were fitted to any other cars? Reason is I am in the USA and the postage gets bit steep for heavier items. Just wondering if they are common with anything else, maybe in the Land Rover range.
They actually look like Triumph TR8 ones?
http://www.thewedgeshopstore.com/stock-motor-mount...


Sardonicus

15,825 posts

160 months

Monday 14th January
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SD1 Rover V8 wink six cylinder models are hollow and not suitable

lancelin

94 posts

60 months

Monday 14th January
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Make sure they are right otherwise you will have bonnet and exhaust clearance issues.

Sardonicus

15,825 posts

160 months

Monday 14th January
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lancelin said:
Make sure they are right otherwise you will have bonnet and exhaust clearance issues.
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ChimpOnGas

8,467 posts

118 months

Monday 14th January
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I believe my SC Power engine mounts were designed to eliminate the need for spacers and provide a better fit.

Here is the statement covering this taken from the SC Power website....

The dimensional span between engine mounts differs by 6mm from the chassis dimension causing difficult installation and excessive pre load to the mount when installed. The engine mount only offers dimension tolerance and vertical movement in Z axis. There is no built in adjustment for width in Y axis.

These engine mounts are very expensive compared to a standard rubber Rover SD1 set, but they definitely work well and seem to last well too, on balance while they are expensive I have to say if you can afford the cost I would certainly recommend them.

http://www.sc-power.co.uk/pages/sc-power-engine-mo...


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ChimpOnGas

8,467 posts

118 months

Monday 14th January
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Sardonicus said:
lancelin said:
Make sure they are right otherwise you will have bonnet and exhaust clearance issues.
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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=8&t=1650565

FoxTVR430

405 posts

50 months

geeman237

Original Poster:

575 posts

124 months

Wednesday 16th January
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geeman237 said:
I need a pair of engine mounts. Anyone know if they were fitted to any other cars? Reason is I am in the USA and the postage gets bit steep for heavier items. Just wondering if they are common with anything else, maybe in the Land Rover range.
They actually look like Triumph TR8 ones?
http://www.thewedgeshopstore.com/stock-motor-mount...
I bit the bullet and ordered the upgraded Powers ones. I was hoping the Pound would drop to the dollar over night, no such luck....damn.
Its possible to get a lot of the Rover engine parts here in the US, but they tend to charge more than the UK when factoring in the exchange rate, so sometimes its better to order from the UK even with the postage.


BIG DUNC

1,483 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th January
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& at the same time I order tuning parts for my Mazda MPS (Mazdaspeed in the USA) because even with shipping and import duty it is usually cheaper than buying them here in the UK. Despite having to travel across the Atlantic, the delivery time is just as quick as ordering from a UK supplier.

stevesprint

957 posts

118 months

Thursday 17th January
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I’ve used SC Powers engine mounts for 6+ years and they are still perfect, I was fed up of replacing standard engine mounts. SC Power’s mounts are much stronger and more solid and therefore you can feel more engine vibrations in the drivers seat while stationary.

ChimpOnGas said:
I believe my SC Power engine mounts were designed to eliminate the need for spacers and provide a better fit.
Are you sure? I’ve still got spacers both sides which I need to keep my exhaust manifolds off the chassis and top poly bushes.

ChimpOnGas

8,467 posts

118 months

Thursday 17th January
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stevesprint said:
I’ve used SC Powers engine mounts for 6+ years and they are still perfect, I was fed up of replacing standard engine mounts. SC Power’s mounts are much stronger and more solid and therefore you can feel more engine vibrations in the drivers seat while stationary.

ChimpOnGas said:
I believe my SC Power engine mounts were designed to eliminate the need for spacers and provide a better fit.
Are you sure? I’ve still got spacers both sides which I need to keep my exhaust manifolds off the chassis and top poly bushes.
Here is the statement covering this taken from the SC Power website....

The dimensional span between engine mounts differs by 6mm from the chassis dimension causing difficult installation and excessive pre load to the mount when installed. The engine mount only offers dimension tolerance and vertical movement in Z axis. There is no built in adjustment for width in Y axis.

TBH Steve I had Lloyds fit my SC Power mounts some three years ago but was never happy with how low they set the engine, I saw no spacers but this doesn't mean they are needed, I did discuss this low engine issue with Lloyds but a when a charge was made just to inspect the car for noises, and a further charge suggested to correct low engine position they themselves had set..... I politely declined their offer and moved on.

A year or so later the car was with Mat Smith for a few jobs I'm not able to do myself without a four post lift (diff bushes, proper AP clutch ect), during this visit Mat simply corrected the low engine problem without fuss or comment, I'm not sure if he raised the engine using spacers but I doubt it because there were none shown on the invoice, it's worth noting SC Power do claim their mounts offer better adjustment than stock mounts so this may mean spacers were not needed to finally lift the engine back into its correct position?

However he did it Mat definitely successfully raised the engine, I have latterly completed an oil change on the car and the oil filter clearance is now back to where it was when I had standard engine mounts. At the same time Mat also replaced my oil perished rubber exhaust mounts with the poly ones I supplied, fitted poly diff bushes and a new diff hanger bracket that was cracking.

The result of this work was an engine that sits perfectly now and the complete elimination of various annoying rattles and noises, Mat then replaced the shockingly worn out Lloyds clutch (I only did 20k miles on it) with a proper AP unit and refaced my light weight steel flywheel, fitted one worn metalastic wishbone bush, one slightly worn steering column UJ and completed the work with a full suspension geometry adjustment on his Hunter Hawkeye laster wheel alignment machine.

The car was handed back to me driving better than it ever has, the engine correctly set in the chassis now with decent manifold to top chassis rail clearance, all annoying noises has been eliminated, the vastly superior AP clutch gave massively improved feel, modulation and smoother take up, and the car handling considerably better.

I can't fault Mat Smith's work, attention to detail, and specialist knowledge which is the direct result of being a very skilled and natural mechanic with more than 20 years experience working on TVRs, he's also a true TVR enthusiast and a very nice guy to deal with who clearly has very high standards.

Based on my first and only experience of using the services of Mat Smith I can absolutely 100% confidently recommend him to anyone looking for a first class TVR mechanic, as the old saying goes...

"There's no substitute for experience"

FoxTVR430

405 posts

50 months

Thursday 17th January
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My experience also.

Sardonicus

15,825 posts

160 months

Thursday 17th January
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Any adjustment allowable is a design of the car and not the mounts the engine can be rocked in the chassis cradle to allow equal gaps of ex manifolds to chassis anyway wink I would leave the single spacer where it was (why fix what isn't broke) when you fit the restraints clearance between chassis and manifolds improves for the better , I'll stick with my new old stock Metzeler O/E engine mounts and SC restraints that do what they are supposed to wink considering my originals did 15 years + with only cracking present and no collapse as do most of these cars , I was an early SC poly mount converter and they failed twice so my quest was to find OE mounts

N7GTX

3,802 posts

82 months

Friday 18th January
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Fairly sure the Rover SD1 engine mounts are the same. The OP could have saved on postage and import tax as Rimmers now have an office open in the USA. Tel. no. at top of the page in the link.

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-CRC2044

If buying from Rimmers do check the dimensions to make certain.

Sardonicus

15,825 posts

160 months

Friday 18th January
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N7GTX said:
Fairly sure the Rover SD1 engine mounts are the same. The OP could have saved on postage and import tax as Rimmers now have an office open in the USA. Tel. no. at top of the page in the link.

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-CRC2044

If buying from Rimmers do check the dimensions to make certain.
They are the donor car but got to be from the 3500 V8 wink the smaller 6 pot models have voids through the middle

Compared too

N7GTX

3,802 posts

82 months

Friday 18th January
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thumbup probably why the original ones on my SD1 failed - with all that power from the TVR engine in it of course ............ hehe

geeman237

Original Poster:

575 posts

124 months

Friday 18th January
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N7GTX said:
Fairly sure the Rover SD1 engine mounts are the same. The OP could have saved on postage and import tax as Rimmers now have an office open in the USA. Tel. no. at top of the page in the link.

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-CRC2044

If buying from Rimmers do check the dimensions to make certain.
I had several other items to order as well, so did a job lot. As for Rimmers in the USA, the chances of them having them in stock in the US are about zero. Yes, SD1's were sold here in the US, but they were a resounding flop and I bet you can count the number still running here on one hand. Often there isn't much in it on cost as the US suppliers may buy when the pound is strong and price in dollars accordingly. I have been lucky enough never to pay customs/import tax buying parts from the UK. I think there is a minimum value before you do. Maybe I've just been lucky the last 15 years ;-)