M@'s MPG Disappointment....

M@'s MPG Disappointment....

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P7ULG

1,052 posts

284 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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Cor.. now it looks like I'm whinging.. which wasn't the purpose of this thread.. I was hoping for some..

.."have you considered XYZ part.."
.."when was it last tuned.."
.."I find optimax gives me a better MPG.."
..etc
..etc

not... "stop whining and get on with it..." Oh well...

Sorry but there is no real answer to it. I bought a Cerbera for everday use and gave in after a month,not I might mention because of the MPG.I bought A BMW318i for £1400 and kept the Cebera for High days and Holidays.

scruff400

3,757 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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CarZee, what kind of MPG are you getting? I believe you run a rather economical S...

.Mark

11,104 posts

277 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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As Steve says do you use UL Matt? Might save you a bit.
I did a run from Porstmouth to Preston and got somewhere near 30mpg (4 litre Chimaera), stopped at Brum to visit some relatives half way but for the whole journey kept it about 3000rpm - 90ish mph.
I did read somewhere - probably here - that someone indeed got more mpg at higher speeds as it was just a sweet spot for the engine? Next time you do the run, knock up the old speed by a couple mph.

pbrettle

3,280 posts

284 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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M@,

Oh yeah didnt mention that Optimax does improve the fuel consumption - not a massive amount, but expect something like 2-3 extra in the TVR. Makes a bigger difference in a more modern car with a sophisticated engine management system...which the TVR doesnt have..

Mines been de-tuned in the past for unleaded which is OK, but it does mean that I loose some power (does it really matter?). However, the benefit of optimax / super is in the smoother running - much better than standard UL.

As for stuff like octane boosters and funny plug-in things for the fuel system - they dont really work. They may give you a little more MPG, but for the cost and the marginal gain they really arent worth the money. Best off with Super UL and maybe a tune - you never know it might be running too rich or off tune..

Cheers,

Paul

P.S. Remember that a tune will probably cost the thick end of £200 so that buys a lot of fuel in the first place.

scruff400

3,757 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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As Steve says do you use UL Matt? Might save you a bit.
I did a run from Porstmouth to Preston and got somewhere near 30mpg (4 litre Chimaera), stopped at Brum to visit some relatives half way but for the whole journey kept it about 3000rpm - 90ish mph.
I did read somewhere - probably here - that someone indeed got more mpg at higher speeds as it was just a sweet spot for the engine? Next time you do the run, knock up the old speed by a couple mph.



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Steady.

I run it on UL, but stick optimax in it for long hard runs - otherwise it pinks.

Jarrett

100 posts

285 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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Using my Chim 500 as my everyday car in '99, my fuel costs for the year were £3087 for the year (about 16K miles worth). That's about an average of 20mpg.

Was doing a lot of continental driving where I found that best fuel economy was around 90mph in 5th. This gave about 26-28mpg. Uk motorways (70mph) around 23mpg, urban 15-20mpg and having a blast 10-15mpg.

Add another £1500 for servicing and £500 misc gives a nice running figure of £5000 for 16K miles and 12months. And that doesn't include the £10K worth of depreciation (car was owned from new). So that's about 31p per mile (93p including dep.).

.Mark

11,104 posts

277 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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Was doing a lot of continental driving where I found that best fuel economy was around 90mph in 5th.

I rest my case.

And then whatever this may mean...
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shpub

8,507 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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[Thanks Steve.. 9 mpg.. hmm.. wow that would cost me over £8,300 in petrol every year



See I've save you money already. In some cases, the UL tuning just involves resetting the timing. Get it done during a service and it need not cost anything.

Steve

MikeyT

16,572 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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M@

You're a bloody whinger, you're driving a 4 litre Chimaera for christ's sake ... !

You did your homework on the costs of buying it, maybe you should have done some on the running costs too ...

Just enjoy it and x0ll0b to the cost of the fuel.

manek

2,972 posts

285 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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Bit harsh!

Still, my 4.0 only costs 27mpg to run on motorways -- somewhat less on the back roads

Gaffer

7,156 posts

278 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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M@ If this is an attempt to get out of buying me a drink tomorrow it ain't working.



Claire

trackdemon

12,193 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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*TVR in poor MPG shocker* Try slipstreaming lorries (or Transits), driving at 56mph in 5th, using Optimax, remove wipers, wing mirrors, tape panel gaps to improve aerodynamics... and yes, I'm being facetious

M@H

Original Poster:

11,296 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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M@

You're a bloody whinger, you're driving a 4 litre Chimaera for christ's sake ... !

You did your homework on the costs of buying it, maybe you should have done some on the running costs too ...

Just enjoy it and x0ll0b to the cost of the fuel.




well thanks for that... why is it that everyone who knows it does 18 to the gallon appears on PH after you've bought one, and more significantly doesn't contribute to my earlier threads asking about MPG..??

be consistant you lot

JonRB

74,605 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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Being serious for a minute, M@, give it a few tankfuls to allow your driving style to adjust to the different characteristics of the engine.

Ride the torque curve by staying in a higher gear and using less revs, for example - you don't need to fizz the nuts off the V8 to make progress.

The 500's do 18mpg for sure, but with your 400 you should be able to hit the mid-20's like you budgetted for with a little restraint.

Every performance car I've owned has had shitty mpg for the first few tanks because, no matter how restrained you are, you still give it a bit of large because its your new car!

MikeyT

16,572 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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Sorry M@, having re-read my post it did seem a bit harsh, but it was the initial shock of reading your first post

Try taking the Beetle every other day ... problem solved.

pbrettle

3,280 posts

284 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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Try taking the Beetle every other day ... problem solved.



Beetle??? As long as it isnt an orignal one (not one of those Golf based ones) - you would be lucky to get 25 out of the 1300 one...! If it has had any improvements to make it faster then you are looking at 20 at best.... and it has to be 4 star!!!

Cheers,

Paul

MikeyT

16,572 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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Christ, get the Honda C50 out then ... !

M@H

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11,296 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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Sorry M@, having re-read my post it did seem a bit harsh, but it was the initial shock of reading your first post

Try taking the Beetle every other day ... problem solved.



LOL... perhaps...

JSG

2,238 posts

284 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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M@,

The answer is to take out a loan and buy a reliable but more economical car for the commute - something like a V6 S series maybe.

Cheers,
JSG

Note - I didn't say "I told you so"

Graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Wednesday 25th September 2002
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mmm i use my 4ltr most days and used to do kidderminster to cheltenham (north place) 2/3 times a week and always got over 20mpg.

i have managed single figures on the track, but always get over 20 on the road....

your probably just in the holigan new car stage, and will calm down a bit after a whilte

Enjoy

G