New Soft Top DIY Install

New Soft Top DIY Install

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angus337

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620 posts

209 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Decided it's time to tackle the roof on my Chim. I'm not the best at any jobs that need a bit of skill and finesse so not guarantees how this will turn out, but thought it was worth posting as I couldn't find any detailed threads covering this.

Decided to start with the rear section as i still haven't decided whether to go for a split targa top or stick with the original.

Top arrived today so got started this evening.

Trial fit over existing roof


Rear section removed


Old roof


Removing the rear trim



Next job is to clean everything up. The glue remover seems to be pretty evil stuff! so need some extra protection for me and the paintwork.

sapper

1,133 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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I was talking to a mate about doing this today” how hard can it be” was the mist of the conversation. Good luck hope it goes well I’ll be interested in how you get on. Where did you get the roof from and how much are they if you don’t mind me asking.

angus337

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620 posts

209 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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The hood was from allhoods. The box had a Mazda hoods logo, so assume it's the same company. Cost was £400 + postage I think for the rear section and material for he targa.

wuckfitracing

990 posts

143 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Loads of photos please, Im planning to do this shortly.

QBee

20,984 posts

144 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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angus337 said:
The hood was from allhoods. The box had a Mazda hoods logo, so assume it's the same company. Cost was £400 + postage I think for the rear section and material for he targa.
How much did they quote you for the complete job including fitting?

TvrJohn

1,058 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Interesting, keep the information coming and the completion photos

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

149 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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QBee said:
How much did they quote you for the complete job including fitting?
I remember a chap coming to Rich (Sheel) place supplying and fitting his for about £750 all in which I thought was a bargain at the time in 2016.
Can’t flipping remember his name!

angus337

Original Poster:

620 posts

209 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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Had a bit more time this evening, still bit trial and error, but making some progress.

Cleaned off the old glue. The adhesive cleaner wasn't that effective, but may have softened it a bit. Ended up scraping most of it off, then gave it a quick sand


Cut out tabs and trial fitted to the rear surround with double sided tape, to check alignment


Glued down left hand side,


Just finished the right hand side and need to leave it to cure for 24h, before trial fitting.

angus337

Original Poster:

620 posts

209 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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Classic Chim said:
QBee said:
How much did they quote you for the complete job including fitting?
I remember a chap coming to Rich (Sheel) place supplying and fitting his for about £750 all in which I thought was a bargain at the time in 2016.
Can’t flipping remember his name!
To be honest I didn't ask as I'm up I'm Aberdeen, so stuck with the DIY option.

trev4

740 posts

162 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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angus337 said:
Classic Chim said:
QBee said:
How much did they quote you for the complete job including fitting?
I remember a chap coming to Rich (Sheel) place supplying and fitting his for about £750 all in which I thought was a bargain at the time in 2016.
Can’t flipping remember his name!
To be honest I didn't ask as I'm up I'm Aberdeen, so stuck with the DIY option.
I had mine done by them about 6/7 years ago and it was £600 plus vat fitted. Looks like prices have gone up a bit since then.

angus337

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620 posts

209 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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Not much time today, but managed to fit the rear section and trial fit to the hoop with tape




Seems to be a good fit, nut couldn't get it fully tensioned with tape. One minor problem on the drivers side corner were it has lifted slightly, so may have to take it of again to sort. I think the scariest bit is going to be gluing it down to the hoop.

angus337

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620 posts

209 months

Saturday 21st September 2019
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PITA, but decided to take it back if to re-glue a couple of bits on the rear surround. Good opportunity for a quick blast and try and update the mapping with the new fuel pressure regulator and injectors while the glue was drying.

Refitted to the car this evening and finally plucked up the courage to glue it down to the folding hoop. Was planning to take more pictures of this step but once the glue is on theres not a lot of time to get it positioned before the glue goes off. Even with the the evostik timebond adhesive.





Just been back down and fitted the seal



Edited by angus337 on Saturday 21st September 23:02

Jobster

100 posts

98 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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looks really good!!!

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

149 months

Sunday 22nd September 2019
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A difficult job made to look easy. Very nice work sir.

I’d now be asking for products to remove glue off paintwork biggrin

I actually watched someone do this on a mates car but couldn’t be sure which way the chap fitted it so thought better than to guess but looking at yours now I believe he also fixed it at the rear and then glued it to hoop.



Tobs

237 posts

222 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Looks good!

I've had a new hood sitting in my garage for the last few years that I still need to fit once I've finished the body off restoration of the chassis, great to see how you did it.

You say you used the timebond adhesive as opposed to the normal contact adhesive? I was planning to use the high temp contact adhesive, but not sure if high temp is required or if the timebond would make things easier.

I guess covering the targa is the next step, which I suspect could be more difficult.

angus337

Original Poster:

620 posts

209 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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I found this thread for recovering the targa top, which recommended timebond. Assumed it would also be OK for the folding section, time will tell I guess. http://www.groutledge.co.uk/targa-re-cover/targa-r...

Decided to stick with the standard top rather then going for the split option, so will get on to recoveringnthat next.

Tobs

237 posts

222 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Thanks for the link will be useful.

Timebond does sound like the one to use as allows an amount of repositioning time.

angus337

Original Poster:

620 posts

209 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Finally got round to tackling the targa section, above link was pretty useful.

Glue removed and sanded


Test fitted


Glued down





Generally wasn't too bad, the tricky bit was gluing and trimming the edges. Leaving it to dry before sealing the edges with silicon and fitting the new rubber seals.

michielp

95 posts

179 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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+1, great work looks really neat and tight. Was it hard to get it as smooth as you got it?

angus337

Original Poster:

620 posts

209 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Fairly straight forward on the top, folding in the edges especially at the corners is a bit more tricky though. Think I will need to revisit the rear corners and reglue.

All finished now, happy with the results, but could be better. Certainly wouldn't recommend the DIY route if I had a local trimmer that had done the job before.



One problem though, I am finding it difficult to fit the targa section. The front lip seems to be gripping the windscreen seal an pushing it downwards, to the point that it doesn't sit flush with the roof and has also come loose on the drivers side.



Any tips on re-attaching the seal or fitting a new one?