Body Off - The Naked Truth
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ray von said:
IIRC around 10 years ago the only option was a full body off which was mega money around £12k possibly, which was enough to write any Chim off.
Then the outrigger only jobs sprung up and as I've already said mechanics became expert welders over night.
CoG looks a good job, re your last pic remember under the manifolds can also rot out, I know you've added extra coatings there
Cheers ray von, TBH I was pleasantly surprised how well the silver/grey finish on my top rails coped with the exhaust heat, it seems more heat resistant than the white powder coat that came after.Then the outrigger only jobs sprung up and as I've already said mechanics became expert welders over night.
CoG looks a good job, re your last pic remember under the manifolds can also rot out, I know you've added extra coatings there
The top rails were covered with Waxoil most of their early life and later Dinitrol for the last 10 years too, but I wouldn't have thought rustproofing wax is a great high temp coating, however I did get rid of my pre-cats some 10 years ago which definitely lowered exhaust manifold temps, this was followed shortly after by an ACT Y-Piece to complete a full de-cat.
Classic Chim said:
I was impressed with the black heat proof paint on your top tubes Dave. So much so I was a bit peeved I wasted money on tape.
If I hadn’t already bought it I would have nicked that idea off you
I’m not convinced the tape will last very long or stay stuck on.
The black high temp paint on the top rails is Alex Wheatley's idea Alun, all his chassis restorations get it.If I hadn’t already bought it I would have nicked that idea off you
I’m not convinced the tape will last very long or stay stuck on.
I have no experience with the high temp reflective tape you've used but I'm sure it'll do its job, I've seen a number of Cerbera guys use it so your best bet is to see how well it lasts on those cars?
I would PM ianwhitewick and Boatbuoy both of whom used reflective tape on their Cerberas some five years ago.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Not sure about just using foil tape. You also need some heat proof cloth, like what lines the engine bay, as well as foil tape.
Here's a link from a few years ago. The cloth and foil had been on for over 5 years and only failed somewhat due to a failed engine
mount, which allowed the engine to drop, and the manifold to sit on the chassis rail.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Here's a link from a few years ago. The cloth and foil had been on for over 5 years and only failed somewhat due to a failed engine
mount, which allowed the engine to drop, and the manifold to sit on the chassis rail.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
ChimpOnGas said:
I'd be worried a woven heat insulating material could hold moisture against those top chassis rails, you get this with exhaust wrap so it's definitely a thing.
Both sides had been "wrapped" for over 5 years. One side was perfect, as good as the day i wrapped it. The other side was also perfect except for heat damage to the paint, caused by the manifold being sat on it due to a failed engine mount.
There are various types of heat proof cloth, some of which are silicone impregnated on both sides, so are completely water and moisture proof.
TJC46 said:
Not sure about just using foil tape. You also need some heat proof cloth, like what lines the engine bay, as well as foil tape.
The foil will massively reduce radiant heating, which will help a lot. That said, the glass backed foil cloth is also very nice and what I used between the bodywork and the exhaust manifold on the Westfield, it's stuck remarkably well considering. The epoxy paint will have a higher temperature performance than ant powder coated and most other paint systems, which will make big difference too. If you keep the paint in good shame the risk of trapped moisture goes down.
I am less sure what a coating of high temperature paint will do it's its over the base paint, particularly if it is matt black, however you could stick some foil tape over it easily. Plus it's a reasonably dry clean area of the chassis anyway.
Daniel
dhutch said:
I am less sure what a coating of high temperature paint will do it's its over the base paint, particularly if it is matt black, however you could stick some foil tape over it easily. Plus it's a reasonably dry clean area of the chassis anyway.
Daniel
Actually the high temperature paint is only over the original paint that has survived so far. Daniel
Interior back in, I'd almost forgotten how beautiful this view is.
Nothing stops Alex Wheatly, what a guy! He's had the virus and recovered, he's now back at it working in isolation and remains totally committed.
We must all support the self employed, the government package for them is a joke, insulting even! Alex Wheatly continues to take responsibility for his own income and refuses to be defeated.
Respect
Nothing stops Alex Wheatly, what a guy! He's had the virus and recovered, he's now back at it working in isolation and remains totally committed.
We must all support the self employed, the government package for them is a joke, insulting even! Alex Wheatly continues to take responsibility for his own income and refuses to be defeated.
Respect
Alex was really ill, he definitely had the virus, as did my wife and a good friend of mine who brought it back from a skiing trip Austria. All have recovered thank God, but the virus is becoming a feature of everyone's lives, the infection rate is high so make no mistake you and or people close to you will very likely be getting it.
People's jobs are at risk, every day companies are finding new ways to cut their overheads to stay alive, to this end the completion of this chassis restoration has reached a heightened state of importance. My TVR is about to go from toy to critical transport, we are all trying to stay off the roads as much as possible right now, but with an 83 year old mother 130 miles away I need to know if there's an emergency I can get to her.
Never before has a reliable, sorted, and economical TVR been so important to me.
The game has changed folks!
People's jobs are at risk, every day companies are finding new ways to cut their overheads to stay alive, to this end the completion of this chassis restoration has reached a heightened state of importance. My TVR is about to go from toy to critical transport, we are all trying to stay off the roads as much as possible right now, but with an 83 year old mother 130 miles away I need to know if there's an emergency I can get to her.
Never before has a reliable, sorted, and economical TVR been so important to me.
The game has changed folks!
ChimpOnGas said:
Alex was really ill, he definitely had the virus, as did my wife and a good friend of mine who brought it back from a skiing trip Austria. All have recovered thank God, but the virus is becoming a feature of everyone's lives, the infection rate is high so make no mistake you and or people close to you will very likely be getting it.
People's jobs are at risk, every day companies are finding new ways to cut their overheads to stay alive, to this end the completion of this chassis restoration has reached a heightened state of importance. My TVR is about to go from toy to critical transport....
Glad he appears to have made a good (full?) recovery, but yes, its real and out there. As you say, huge effect on some people careers and businesses as well. Do you not have another car?People's jobs are at risk, every day companies are finding new ways to cut their overheads to stay alive, to this end the completion of this chassis restoration has reached a heightened state of importance. My TVR is about to go from toy to critical transport....
dhutch said:
As you say, huge effect on some people careers and businesses as well. Do you not have another car?
This is a company car issue, lets say the lease on that company car is about to come to an end, why would the employer replace that car with a new one when they've asked the sales person to stay at home?The thing is you can't blame them, why would you pay for a car thats not being driven in the persuit of additional business?
With sales already down by 50% and expected to fall further to 30% you need to cut as many business costs as you can, especially if you're looking to come out of the other side with your business still alive.
Thats all well and good but if that company car is your only transport, it is withdrawn, and you also have a vulnerable 83 year old mother over 130 miles way, you're going to need alternative transport.
This alternative transport is my TVR.
With whats going on outside seems like you made wise choices after all 
Weirdly a car that once sorted could actually become the cost effective option many of us need.
It’s a simple fact that my car has always proved to be reliable and more so now through some very impressive mods.
No car in my life could be allowed to effect my life, I’ve never owned 3 ,4 or maybe even 5 cars at a time, my car has always been my only transport so without reliability I would have got rid asap.
Sounds crazy but it’s true.
If you are local it makes perfect sense. Service costs are cheap, no finance, save a fortune on basic repairs as it’s easy to work on from home. Does’nt rust much,80% of parts are cheap and available.
Lastly it has a huge boot space for such a small car.
Keep your mum safe mate and all the best.
Weirdly a car that once sorted could actually become the cost effective option many of us need.
It’s a simple fact that my car has always proved to be reliable and more so now through some very impressive mods.
No car in my life could be allowed to effect my life, I’ve never owned 3 ,4 or maybe even 5 cars at a time, my car has always been my only transport so without reliability I would have got rid asap.
Sounds crazy but it’s true.
If you are local it makes perfect sense. Service costs are cheap, no finance, save a fortune on basic repairs as it’s easy to work on from home. Does’nt rust much,80% of parts are cheap and available.
Lastly it has a huge boot space for such a small car.
Keep your mum safe mate and all the best.
Exactly Alan, the cheapest car to replace my company car is the car I already own!
The only real issue with running a sorted Chimaera as daily transport is keeping it fed with petrol, and that's where my LPG conversion comes in to save the day.
My LPG TVR delivers an average petrol cost equivalent of 48mpg which is better than nearly every other petrol car out there, even a little 1,200cc hatchback!
Only a diesel would be cheaper to fuel than my dual fuel Chimaera, and not by a huge margin either.
The only real issue with running a sorted Chimaera as daily transport is keeping it fed with petrol, and that's where my LPG conversion comes in to save the day.
My LPG TVR delivers an average petrol cost equivalent of 48mpg which is better than nearly every other petrol car out there, even a little 1,200cc hatchback!
Only a diesel would be cheaper to fuel than my dual fuel Chimaera, and not by a huge margin either.
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