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Yes but even a petrol running model with no finance or big dealer bills could prove to be cost effective if it’s not really a workhorse.
If you need to travel long distances through your work then LPG can make it viable. Very comfy on longer runs too so with the billies RS tyres etc etc oh Brembo brakes,, I can’t forget them you have a more than capable enough car.
Won’t mind the rain so much either.
Epoxy mastic paint.
Sorted.
If you need to travel long distances through your work then LPG can make it viable. Very comfy on longer runs too so with the billies RS tyres etc etc oh Brembo brakes,, I can’t forget them you have a more than capable enough car.
Won’t mind the rain so much either.
Epoxy mastic paint.
Sorted.
ChimpOnGas said:
This is a company car issue, lets say the lease on that company car is about to come to an end, why would the employer replace that car with a new one when they've asked the sales person to stay at home?
Ahh, fair enough, as you say, poor timing for you but can you blame them!Hopefully you do not need it, but as you say, nice to able to had access to a car if there is an emergency.
Daniel
Loubaruch said:
COG,
With the price differential between petrol and diesel at 48 mpg you are probably getting equivalent diesel mileage.
I know when recently changing cars from a diesel to petrol that around 40 mpg for the petrol equates pricewise to around 55+ mpg for diesel for the mileage I do.
Here are the mathematically proven facts.....With the price differential between petrol and diesel at 48 mpg you are probably getting equivalent diesel mileage.
I know when recently changing cars from a diesel to petrol that around 40 mpg for the petrol equates pricewise to around 55+ mpg for diesel for the mileage I do.
My LPG TVR does 22 mpg all day long no matter how I drive it, so with LPG at 0.55p and petrol at £1.20 a litre, this gives the following calculation:
1.2 / 0.55 X 22 = 48 mpg (petrol cost equivalent)
On the other hand with diesel at £1.26 the calculation looks like this:
1.26 / 0.55 X 22 = 50 mpg (diesel cost equivalent)
I get an average of 55 mpg from my Audi A3 1.6litre turbo diesel company car with it's 7 speed DSG transmission, so the Audi is still cheaper to fuel than my LPG TVR but the gap really isn't huge, and thank God I'm not still stuck with a petrol only TVR that would average a painful 24 mpg at best!
Actually petrol is the cheapest its been for years, the combination of over production and the fact no one is driving anywhere right now has forced the price of a litre of unleaded to an all time low, my local Sainsbury's is selling a litre of petrol for £1.03 and a litre of diesel at £1.09, at the same station a litre of LPG is £0.56.
Therese are exceptional times though, so this situation will not last
While the gap is closing, both petrol and diesel are still almost twice the price of LPG, so even in these unusual fuel market conditions converting my Chimaera to gas still delivers hugely cheaper V8 TVR motoring. A 12 gallon £57.00 fill of petrol in your standard 4.0 litre Chimaera should buy you 300 miles, to take me the same 300 miles I need a 14 gallon fill of LPG but this only costs me £35.00
This is actually the worse I've ever seen it, the gap between petrol and LPG has closed making my LPG conversion the least cost efficient than its ever been, but I'm still saving £22.00 every time I put 300 miles of fuel in the car which soon adds up, and as soon as things return to normal the gap will widen again for sure.
Gas is good
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Ha ha.
The cover is not something I would normally buy but my wife found it on eBay. £80 secondhand but like new and they are normally £250 so a bargain!
I do agree with the front/rear looky likey, especially with the earlier 986's but the later 987's and beyond are far better.
Here's one I prepared earlier!
Front
Yes, there really is a difference, just ..........
Rear
Apologies OP! We have to occupy ourselves somehow in these pressing times.
The cover is not something I would normally buy but my wife found it on eBay. £80 secondhand but like new and they are normally £250 so a bargain!
I do agree with the front/rear looky likey, especially with the earlier 986's but the later 987's and beyond are far better.
Here's one I prepared earlier!
Front
Yes, there really is a difference, just ..........
Rear
Apologies OP! We have to occupy ourselves somehow in these pressing times.
ChimpOnGas said:
Here are the mathematically proven facts.....
22 mpg on gas
48 mpg (petrol cost equivalent)
50 mpg (diesel cost equivalent)
Thank God I'm not stuck with a petrol, 24 mpg at best!
I drive a E46 330ci, which does 28mpg average, 24mpg through traffic on my 12mile 50min commute, 38mpg on a motorway run with chunk of 50mph limit. Often I do around 10k pa.22 mpg on gas
48 mpg (petrol cost equivalent)
50 mpg (diesel cost equivalent)
Thank God I'm not stuck with a petrol, 24 mpg at best!
So on that basis, your car on petrol is £325 worse per year, and on gas is £812 better. Your total saving would be £1136.
Obviously if you half the mileage because its a second car and actually only does 5k a year, the savings half to £568
If like most people with a second car your actually only doing something liek 2.5k pa then the saving is now £284 a year.
In summary, can't fault you choices, but I would just leave it on petrol an remove all the faff of conversion refueling!
Daniel
dhutch said:
ChimpOnGas said:
Here are the mathematically proven facts.....
22 mpg on gas
48 mpg (petrol cost equivalent)
50 mpg (diesel cost equivalent)
Thank God I'm not stuck with a petrol, 24 mpg at best!
I drive a E46 330ci, which does 28mpg average, 24mpg through traffic on my 12mile 50min commute, 38mpg on a motorway run with chunk of 50mph limit. Often I do around 10k pa.22 mpg on gas
48 mpg (petrol cost equivalent)
50 mpg (diesel cost equivalent)
Thank God I'm not stuck with a petrol, 24 mpg at best!
So on that basis, your car on petrol is £325 worse per year, and on gas is £812 better. Your total saving would be £1136.
Obviously if you half the mileage because its a second car and actually only does 5k a year, the savings half to £568
If like most people with a second car your actually only doing something liek 2.5k pa then the saving is now £284 a year.
In summary, can't fault you choices, but I would just leave it on petrol an remove all the faff of conversion refueling!
Daniel
You need to compare the same car before and after it was converted, not a completely different car (a BMW) with a TVR Chimaera.
My switch to LPG covered the cost of the conversion a long while ago, these days it's really just cheap as chips motoring.
ChimpOnGas said:
You need to compare the same car before and after it was converted, not a completely different car (a BMW) with a TVR Chimaera.
No, you don't.If I want to compare the running costs of me driving a 4.0 RV8 TVR (with and/or without gas) with my current 3.0 I6 BMW, I can do a comparison of that just that. Which also included a comparison of your before and after figures.
I can then also go on to say that if it where my car I wouldn't bother with the faff of the conversion, in fact I haven't, my car is still running on petrol in converted state. Not for everyone, my uncle had a V6 Audi A6 on gas for years, reasonable conversion, with the only downside that about once a year it would 'backfire' into the intake. The first two times this cost £250 for a new airbox to be fitted, plus a load of trips to the converte to try and get the undelying issue resolved, after second time he cut a line of 2" holes in the airbox and covered them with duct tape, then when it exploded under the bonnet he just replaced the tape!
Daniel
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