Rubber on the Front..
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shpub said: Round ones, black seem to be the fave.
Search on tyres and you will find more comments and opinions than anything else.
>> Edited by shpub on Tuesday 15th October 13:47
well that where you're wrong steve..
theres a HUGE amount of banter about the cost and availability of S02's and S03's and not a lot else...
..is this because there is "not a lot else" ??
Cheers
Matt.
www.toyo.co.uk
Cunning huh? Look for the Proxes T1-S. What size do you need?
oooh... nice.
>> Edited by Podie on Tuesday 15th October 14:02
Cunning huh? Look for the Proxes T1-S. What size do you need?
oooh... nice.
>> Edited by Podie on Tuesday 15th October 14:02
But they do V rated, and as you cannot legally drive above the speed rate limit (I think its about 150mph) it cannot invalidate your insurance contrary to what so many people tried to tell me. On the tyres: they are excellent. Had S0-2's before and these are far superior in the wet, no aquaplaning, lovely progressive breakaway when exiting corners sideways Dry handling is pretty good - steering feels a little more informative, although it seems to follow cambers a bit more (I actually like this though, its called character I believe!). EVO rated them very highly in their comparitive test a few months back, well in front of SO-3's amongst others. And of course the final bonus is that I got the full set fitted and balanced for £325 www.elite-design.co.uk/frameset3.html - try that with goodrellistones!
Dry handling is pretty good - steering feels a little more informative, although it seems to follow cambers a bit more (I actually like this though, its called character I believe!). EVO rated them very highly in their comparitive test a few months back, well in front of SO-3's amongst others. And of course the final bonus is that I got the full set fitted and balanced for £325 www.elite-design.co.uk/frameset3.html - try that with goodrellistones!
M@H said: Hmm.. just what I thought Podie..
is there some theoretical difference between the type of front and rear tyre required as the forces on a front tyre would be different to the forces on a rear (driven) tyre ?
..or am I just going a bit deep on this
In the word sof a Ford ad campaign... "get out more"
The real reason is that Z rated tyres are better at resisting massive amounts of torque. Taking your argument as an example, all the speed ratings of tyres can do over 70MPH I believe - so you could put on Kwik-fit's cheapest. Would the car be unsafe to drive? Yes! Would the insurers take the opportunity to wriggle out for paying for the inevitable accident? Yes!
trackdemon said: But they do V rated, and as you cannot legally drive above the speed rate limit (I think its about 150mph) it cannot invalidate your insurance contrary to what so many people tried to tell me.
trackdemon said: But they do V rated, and as you cannot legally drive above the speed rate limit (I think its about 150mph) it cannot invalidate your insurance contrary to what so many people tried to tell me.
I like Toyos and had them on my M Roadster - very good tyre.
But before putting V rated Toyos on the front of my Griff, I'd want something in writing from my insurers saying they were happy this did not affect my insurance.
I have a pair of 15" Toyos at home that have only done 500 miles... offers?
From Tyresave UK (a wheel and tyre outlet):
TYRE SPEED SYMBOLS
For MOT requirements in this country, it is not necessary to fit a tyre with a speed rating to match the original vehicle fitment or the maximum speed of the vehicle. Tyres must be suitable for the purpose for which the vehicle will be used.
Insurance companies might say that a vehicle should be fitted with the tyres having the speed rating recommended by the car manufacturer: but even if you fit Z-rated tyres for speeds over 150 mph they will not insure you if you drive in excess of 70 mph in this country!
The vehicle manufacturer has to recommend a tyre with a rating to match the maximum speed of the car because when it leaves the factory he does not know exactly where the car is going or for what purpose it might be used. You might want to use the car in a country where higher speed limits apply than the UK or take it to a race track at the weekend.
The major tyre manufacturers such as Pirelli publish charts showing speed ratings.
The speed rating means the tyre can be run at it's maximum speed AND at it's maximum load for an extended period without overheating.
Frankly I think what they have written is cobblers! If an insurance company says you should fit Z rated tyres and you have an accident at 30mph, what then?
TYRE SPEED SYMBOLS
For MOT requirements in this country, it is not necessary to fit a tyre with a speed rating to match the original vehicle fitment or the maximum speed of the vehicle. Tyres must be suitable for the purpose for which the vehicle will be used.
Insurance companies might say that a vehicle should be fitted with the tyres having the speed rating recommended by the car manufacturer: but even if you fit Z-rated tyres for speeds over 150 mph they will not insure you if you drive in excess of 70 mph in this country!
The vehicle manufacturer has to recommend a tyre with a rating to match the maximum speed of the car because when it leaves the factory he does not know exactly where the car is going or for what purpose it might be used. You might want to use the car in a country where higher speed limits apply than the UK or take it to a race track at the weekend.
The major tyre manufacturers such as Pirelli publish charts showing speed ratings.
The speed rating means the tyre can be run at it's maximum speed AND at it's maximum load for an extended period without overheating.
Frankly I think what they have written is cobblers! If an insurance company says you should fit Z rated tyres and you have an accident at 30mph, what then?
..or am I just going a bit deep on this
Yes just go and get some S0-3s. Toyos have a very soft side wall and many have found that they roll off the wheel when pushed and the sidewall lettering starts to wear. This is why the Max Power boys like them on the 17 + wheels because they compensate for the lower profile so that they don't screw up the suspension so much.
They don't do a ZR rated tyre in 15 inch which means that they do not meet the suitable for use clause so you have just given the insurers and Police one big reason for getting out of any claim. It has happened.
This I don't drive at 70 is a lot of crap. The speed rating also includes resistence to distortion during acceleration so even if you don't drive at 150+, most TVR owners do accelerate hard. The tyre is the only thing between you and the road. Get the best.
Toyo are well aware of the problem and the fact that they are losing out on the existing replacement market and are trying to get the tyre regraded allegedly. The problem I have heard is that the sidewall is too complient and they can't do it. Having seen how thin and squidgy it is, I can understand that.
The sprinters have all been posting personal bests on S0-3s. Yet to see a Toyo on a sprinting TVR. We would sell family for other tyres if we could go faster.
All this has been reported on here many many times...
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