Bible no 3 - A prediction

Bible no 3 - A prediction

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qube

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437 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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If anybody else is like me and want to do alot of the work yourself or take that tinkering a bit further , surely somebody like "Steve Heath" can come up with a more detailed Haynes like workshop manual with questions beginning with how to change ........... or how to remove ............, It's got to be a best seller and make someone a lot of money.

ajg

48 posts

259 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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Perhaps we could document the jobs we do on our own cars and stick them on a web site? I've just uploaded a very basic page on how to clean the stepper motor as an example of what I mean.
www.car1.clara.co.uk/tvr/
Let me know what you think of the idea, I know the web site isn't the best you've ever seen, but a start maybe?

Hopefully the new issue of Steve's book will have more info on how to do jobs on the car, I believe it's got about twice as many pages as the old one.

Andy G

Chim450

1,452 posts

262 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2002
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Impressed! Nice piccies of the stepper motor. Just needs a little narrative on how to remove, what to clean it with, etc....

HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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OMG that was one dirty stepper motor , I clean mine quite often and I can honestly say it has never been that black .
You've now got me thinking that it probably doen't open properly and hence get dirty .
Anyone elses get that sooted or is really just mine that doesn't (serious question btw).

Harry

trefor

14,635 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Mine's never been that mucky. Someone who knows more will probably tell us it's running too rich or something ...

Also, after seeing a professional clean the stepper, you need to clean the bit inside to do a complete job of this - the stepper winds out in a phalic kind of way on a motor when the ECU tells it to. With the right diagnostic equipment you can remove the stepper, keep it wired to the loom and make it pop out to get to the rest of it. No I don't have this equipment.

T/.

qube

Original Poster:

437 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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ajg said: Perhaps we could document the jobs we do on our own cars and stick them on a web site? I've just uploaded a very basic page on how to clean the stepper motor as an example of what I mean.
www.car1.clara.co.uk/tvr/
Let me know what you think of the idea, I know the web site isn't the best you've ever seen, but a start maybe?



Andy G


Just had a look at your website, this is the kind of thing we need , everyone should be issued with a digital camera, so we can log the events of each job to compile a huge online repair database. Back to that stepper motor, that's the dirtiest nipple i've ever seen , More information like what tools were required , what u used to clean your nipple and housing with ,did you need to use PTFE tape on insertion and say a 1 to 5 level of diffucultly scale.

qube

Original Poster:

437 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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HarryW said:
Anyone elses get that sooted or is really just mine that doesn't (serious question btw).

Harry


I've only cleaned mine twice in just over a year with about 8000 miles covered, the first time i cleaned it was about a month after purchase and it was sooted up, i started using optimax when it came available for 98% of the time after that, the stepper motor has stayed clean for the last 6 months, maybe it's to do with the petrol less soot deposits or something, also the exhaust went from black to a proper greyish colour.

wolosp

2,335 posts

266 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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HarryW said: Anyone elses get that sooted or is really just mine that doesn't (serious question btw). Harry

I cleaned mine recently ('96 car) and it was as dirty as that one. I suspect mine had never been cleaned before as the cable tie looked original and was over the plug clip and therefore would have needed removing in order to remove the plug.

dulu

448 posts

259 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Sorry to sound dense, but what does the stepper motor do. i'll definitely be cleaning mine this weekend, once the leaks are sorted, but I'd like to know it's purpose once it's in my grubby mits.

qube

Original Poster:

437 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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dulu said: Sorry to sound dense, but what does the stepper motor do. i'll definitely be cleaning mine this weekend, once the leaks are sorted, but I'd like to know it's purpose once it's in my grubby mits.


it controls the idling of the car.

Tim Sanders

438 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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It basically contols the idle speed.

ajg

48 posts

259 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Re: sooty stepper motor, I think the car is probably running a bit rich, only getting about 15 mpg, but lots of short journeys. It's also only getting upto about 60'C in this cold weather so I'm going to check the thermostat hasn't stuck open (if it's there at all).
Andy G

ajg

48 posts

259 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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qube said:

Just had a look at your website, this is the kind of thing we need , everyone should be issued with a digital camera, so we can log the events of each job to compile a huge online repair database. Back to that stepper motor, that's the dirtiest nipple i've ever seen , More information like what tools were required , what u used to clean your nipple and housing with ,did you need to use PTFE tape on insertion and say a 1 to 5 level of diffucultly scale.


Thanks for your comments about the website idea, I'll add some more info, also add some more jobs as and when I do them (plenty of jobs to do on the car!)
Has anyone else got info on jobs they have done?

Anyway, all this talk of dirty nipples, I'll have to go and have quick rub down with an oily rag

Andy G

shpub

8,507 posts

273 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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It is more comprehensive... 250,000 words and some 700+ illustrations more comprehensive. To put in context the electronic material for this book comes to 13.7 Gbytes.

However if you need pictures and a 20 page descrption of how to clean a steeper motor, then I am not sure how you are going to cope with the more complex stuff in the book...

pinkchim

25 posts

259 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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like the idea of website and haynes style manual, incidentally had my stepper motor out after advice to my question last week, the housing had cracked on mine nearly all the way round just behind the threads, anyway replaced and running well now.

Thanks to everyone who posted the stepper advice aswell,

cheers

qube

Original Poster:

437 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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shpub said: It is more comprehensive... 250,000 words and some 700+ illustrations more comprehensive. To put in context the electronic material for this book comes to 13.7 Gbytes.


13.7 Gbytes for only 250,000 words and 700+ illustrations sounds strange seeing that you can get the whole set of the encyclopedia britannia on one dvd disc that only holds 4.7 Gbytes, Umm must be big writing or 3d holographic illustrations can't wait to see that one, or back it up either.

No i don't need 20 pictures to clean the stepper motor as i know how to clean it, but there are other people who don't know what or where it is and these people find looking at well documented illustrations with text helpful isn't that what books or html pages are for ?, as for complex stuff that's the problem nothing defined, not even the firing order, and the impossible task of keeping the coolant level 2" below the top of the expansion tank (i can't see 12 litres expanding into 2" can you) blew one rad already for sticking to that, take a look at the replies other people seem interested ?.

>> Edited by qube on Thursday 24th October 08:39

>> Edited by qube on Thursday 24th October 08:59

heliox

450 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Perhaps Ted could invent a "TVR Technical" section which could include routine maintenance tips,photos etc.Im sure it would be very popular.

how about it Ted?
heliox

AndyTather

73 posts

273 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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heliox said:
Perhaps Ted could invent a "TVR Technical" section which could include routine maintenance tips,photos etc.Im sure it would be very popular.



Nice idea, but has Ted got room on this site for what may become a workshop manual (or a better version) for all models ? I hope so

ribol

11,294 posts

259 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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I am getting a bit confused here, you lot call it a "stepper motor", SHPUB calls it a "steeper motor"

Which is it?

Ivan

zertec

499 posts

284 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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ribol said: I am getting a bit confused here, you lot call it a "stepper motor", SHPUB calls it a "steeper motor"

Which is it?

Ivan

An out of character typo by Steve methinks