RE: Chimaera - end is nigh

RE: Chimaera - end is nigh

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flasher

9,238 posts

285 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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Mickey, please tell me what is boring about that??

I'm not saying "my car is better than yours" or anything like that. Just suggesting at Duxford we could see which is quickest...I take it from your response your bottling the challenge old boy........

We settled a few arguments the other year at Duxford when we bet a certain bloke that our Griff's were faster than his S6 Cerbie...... and we lost!!

Came back with the 4.2 Cerb last year and the same bloke bottled it and said his engine "wasn't very well" it's only a bit of fun mate

If it was about being the fastest I would have bought another Cerb. However, I missed having a convertible (and so did the Missus, who hated my Cerb)and that's how I ended up buying the Tamora

Marshy

2,748 posts

285 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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If Mikey won't reply I will - he dropped in for a coffee on his way home.

Very nice looking car! Dark green metallic, although I don't know if it's BRG or not. Certainly looked nicer than any BRG I've seen so... Green carpets inside in nice nick, with full green/grey hide (as I recall). New boots all round, and what looks like a fairly new (and very tidy, compared to mine) roof & rear screen.

All in all, top job.

Lost Boys

163 posts

279 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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Whoops - we should have checked our Tamora facts!! We meant in a straight line from a track perspective where we find the 5 litre performs very very well in the mid range rather than from a standing start measurement - hence our comments about the Woodcote chicane at Goodwood when you enter at 130mph after beating up a stripped out track car hogging the centre of the track so no-one can pass!!

We are hoping to attend TVR mania and would be pleased to meet up and race for charity - we do some stuff for Childrens charities each year. Having expressed our undying love for the Chimaera 5 litre, we are hoping to change to a Cerbera in the next couple of months and she may not be run in by August!!

regards

Corin Denton

8,759 posts

269 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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What a strange thread this has turned out to be , not the usual admiration of the marque but a bit of a "my car's better than your car" syndrome , I drive a Chim myself but would be happy to own any of the models if push came to shove , after all we're not in any mass produced computer generated crap , we all drive a bit of class .

Graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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Ok then boys getting things back on track....

Unless TVR put a different motor in the Chimaera its days are numbered, and if TVR were going to do that they would need to redesign the chassis to get it on a par with the tamora which by all accounts is the best handling tiv ever. both of which they are never going to do, as they are moving on styling wise.

I noticed at the motor show that the chim and the griff didnt realy fit in in terms of styling any more and the cerbera ( which hey is basically a longer chim with a roof) is much the same..

in a perfect world i'd have a Chimaera with a tamora chassis , a 4.5 ajp motor, 6 speed sequential box, roll bar , side impact bars, strengthend windscreen surround and lights that do more than illuminate the front of the car!! oh yes and 17inch wheels... and better seats, and a bit more passenger leg room..


I do love the shape of the chimaera and if i can i might never sell it, I still fancy the newer tvrs and may well get one. mind you i always fancied the wedge and have a 280i as well!!

I recently looked at 99/00 cerberas but for the price of one of them i could keep the chim buy a 97 cerb as well!!! mmmm

Maybe the answer to the chimera engine problem is to stick the wildcat v8 in it, mm how about 6litres and heads that breath properly, throttle bodies and programable ecu... with everything else bolt compatable with the rover lump...mmm


at the end of the day TVR will stop making the Chim
when a) they carnt get rover engines
or
b) nobody is ordering them

and then the greatest TVR in The history of the marque so far will be no more, the Hurricane to the Griffs Spitfire

Sorry im rambling i'll be off now...

flasher

9,238 posts

285 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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What a strange thread this has turned out to be , not the usual admiration of the marque but a bit of a "my car's better than your car" syndrome , I drive a Chim myself but would be happy to own any of the models if push came to shove , after all we're not in any mass produced computer generated crap , we all drive a bit of class .



I couldn't agree more. Not one is any better than another. You pick your favourite and your love that model until you change it. I loved my wedge, Griff, Cerb and now I love my Tamora. I came on this thread purely because certain people turned it into a "yeah but the Tamora is ugly" bitching thread, when they should have been talking about the Chimeara and how it would soon be a desirable classic. I shouldn't have said the Chimeara is "crap" but when I did it provoked this huge insulting response, which just shows how none of us like our pride and joy to be insulted. Whether some of you got the point or not I don't know, but please lets not start it off again!! I'd rather have a laugh and admire other people's cars when we meet up, not end up in mass punch up, I did enough of that when I was 18!!

Fact is they are all bloody quick, good looking, exclusive and the best British affordable supercar out there and there really isn't that much in it at all speed wise as you will see at Duxford if you come.

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MikeyT

16,578 posts

272 months

Tuesday 26th February 2002
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Sorry guys, not an indication of the thread. More like I was knackered after only three hours sleep and the stacks of andrenalin coarsing through my veins after driving the Chim back home in the pi55ing rain!

Just so happened this thread was at the top of the Chim section ... Flash, will love to see it all hap'nin at Duxford in the summer

Thanks for the kind words Marshy

Oh yes, and before ayone asks, I DID pop into the garage to take one last look ...

>> Edited by MikeyT on Tuesday 26th February 09:24

straga

48 posts

268 months

Tuesday 26th February 2002
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I love my Chimaera but I am glad that production is due to end rather than crapy face-lift versions being produced. IMO I think the Chimaera has been saviour of TVR and that it is the classic TVR of it's era. I hope the Tamora is a worthy successor in the sales stakes as TVR need a strong car in the semi exotic -affordable / usable open top market.

searsy

208 posts

283 months

Wednesday 6th March 2002
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RIP Chimp & Griff I knew thee well & many a fun sideways day was had!

Please evolve the Cerbera but don't stop making it...its the best by far now - Ian (Cerb 4.2 - R8 UFO)

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th March 2002
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I agree that if the great unwashed don't want a Chim any more then it should go to the wall, however its a bit sad that it should be withdrawn because the 5l is not available any more.

I hope the Tamora is a sucessful as the Chim as a successor as it seems to be the logical replacement for the Griff and Chim. If TVR can sell 2000+ cars a year the we shuld always be in for a bit of fun for the next few years, lets not knock TVR if the V8 is on the way out.

Corin Denton

8,759 posts

269 months

Wednesday 6th March 2002
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I personally think that given time the Tamora will appeal to most of us , I first of all thought the Tamora was butt ugly but the more I see it and the more rave reviews I read from people who have driven it , the more appeal it has.
As long as TVR make a car that gives us unpresidented driving pleasure , we'll be there.

JonRB

74,624 posts

273 months

Thursday 7th March 2002
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The Tamora is certainly growing on me now, but I think its fair to say that it looks better in darker colours as that takes the eye away from those awful black vents, black headlight surrounds and black diffuser.

They stick out like a sore thumb on the lighter-coloured cars.

Just my opinion, of course. Others may disagree (probably violently).

littlemisshavoc

38 posts

266 months

Thursday 7th March 2002
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Undecided about the T-cars looks, though my fav. would be the Tuscan WITHOUT the additional bootlid lip. (? Tuscan -s).

However, if you T-car haters have never heard an S-6 car, I suggest you do. When last in the local dealer, some lucky sod was taking a Tuscan out on a test. When they fired it up in the showroom, it was like WW III had just started. Imagine a big 4cyl superbike engine, lower the pitch an octave or two. Add lots of fabulous resonances fading in and out as the revs climb, each one subtly different. Sounded like it had the inertia of a small bike engine too - 7000 revs and back in no time. Awesome. I want one.

jwt63

352 posts

268 months

Friday 15th March 2002
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Where can we get a V8 open top/ Put them in the Tamora and the Tuscan. Or do we have to go to another manufacturer, Marcos, Morgan are a couple to mention

richb

51,646 posts

285 months

Friday 15th March 2002
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Had a good look inside a Moggie Aero8 last week and it is sooo cramped. Morgan have certainly kept with the traditional cockpit R...

.mark

11,104 posts

277 months

Friday 15th March 2002
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I too had a quick look around an '8' at Portfield the other week. They had what I can only describe as a Tango Orange one in the showroom - special order or something - and I'm still undecided. There was a blue one outside too and it looked better (IMO) but a couple of things just struck me as odd.
The boot lid....I know not a major part but it looked a bit like a kit car effort.
The sides....Just too 'flat' for my tastes.
All in all though a huge looking beast that should wake up a few motorists!
Tell you what I did like though, the heated side windows - bleedin' fantastic idea.

PetrolTed

34,429 posts

304 months

Friday 15th March 2002
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I drove one recently and was very impressed. Not my kind of car looks wise but I admire the large leap of faith they took design wise.

Graham Bell has been road testing one for us this week and we should have a report after the weekend. It would have been several months back but the car got damaged by two previous journos apparently.

richb

51,646 posts

285 months

Friday 15th March 2002
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I too had a quick look around an '8' at Portfield the other week...Tell you what I did like though, the heated side windows - bleedin' fantastic idea.

The one I looked over was at Portfield too - so is that what those odd radial lines were on the windows? I thought it was the perspex side-screens cracking-up already! Rich...

.mark

11,104 posts

277 months

Friday 15th March 2002
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I'm only guessing at that Rich! Didn't bother asking the salesman he was showing no interest at all.
Perhaps I should have gone in with the TVR?

richb

51,646 posts

285 months

Friday 15th March 2002
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I was down there with my Griff. As I arrived there was room in the bays by the entrance door so I reversed in between a couple of Astons and the Aero8. John Trewing (nice chap) had my paperwork out before I reached his desk, he'd heard me arrive. Jackie the lady who does the valeting came briskly up from the back yard so she could hear a "real" V8 again. When I collected it she asked to drive it up from her "den" grinning from ear to ear she said it was nice to get back in a TVR again What do they sell... Astons, Morgans, Lotus, Jensen (well not actually sold any of those) and what made the most impression - you guessed it!