RE: Morgan Aero 8
Discussion
The Aero 8 is a fine machine that deserves to do very well. The looks are 'individual' I would admit but then, isn't every Morgan a very 'individual' car?
One shouldn't tut tut at the origin of the parts, after all the beloved Rover V8 is a buick design, AC Cobra had Ford yankee power and Lotuses have French and Japanese parts for years (as well as Morris Marina door handles which hardly reflects good breeding, eh?) And Bristol, that most British of all things has used heavyweight yank engines for over 30 years. So don't be snobbish!
A car like this is always more than the sum of its parts. Who can blame Morgan for using the best parts? They'd be stupid not to !!!!
A slight bit of British eccentricity is an essential in this increasingly conformist world of euroboxes all made from the same platform but with ten different equally boring bodies plonked on top.
That's why I drive a stupid car.
And that's why you should too.
I thought that this was a board for people that know a little about motoring and motorsport. The morgan is a development of their racing programme and uses highly advanced chassis design as well as one of the best engines in the world and a body designed for aerodynamic efficiency whilst retaining key Morgan styling cues,
TO dismiss a machine of this quality because the lights are funny is really rather sad, I suggest that www.howmanycupholdersonmymondeo.com might be the site for you.
Edited by dans on Tuesday 10th July 09:53
The exterior styling is obviously not to everyone's taste but the cross-eyed look is not as glaring in the flesh. It is the personification of the "21st Century" sportscar that a schoolboy just before the 2nd World War would have sketched in the back of his English exersize book.
No doubt the dynamics are a leap forward from the old +8 etc. However the interior is awful, an absolute ergonomic nightmare. In my opinion of course.
Clive Reed
Zertec Limited
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You're right. There's nothing new apart from the chassis, suspension, engine, gearbox and the rest of the car. Derr.. Where does derr.. come from lots of smiles and appines and no aggro [quote] My apologies for the personal slight. But you should expect some reaction when you post ill-informed and sarcastic remarks. I admire Morgan. They are one of the few British manufacturers left, and have produced a thoroughly competent (and different) car. Maybe the looks aren't to everyone's liking, but the design is new.
quote:Er, they don't? Do you mean track days, where people take their own cars along, or motor racing? I found my Chimaera easily able to keep up with and eat a bunch of other kit around a couple of tracks, and the Tuscans that were there were even quicker.
and they almost never seem to perform a(t) track days
"TVRs never seem to perform at track days". Dunno where you've been going then, I've done plenty of track days each year for the past 5 years in a Chimaera, then Griff 500 and now Cerbera. TVRs are always well represented, along with many other marques, and I find they perform very well. At one extreme, I've seen an old Grantura stick up the backside of an F40 most of the way around Castle Coombe, it's down to driver skill as much as anything else. One thing I've not seen yet is a quick Morgan. Sorry. However, I've only ever seen Morgans twice, and each time they were mobile chicanes frankly. I wish them well with the Aero 8, it is pig ugly and they will have heard this from many places besides this discussion group. However, please realise that you are spouting utter twaddle about some sort of track honed motorsport superiority to TVR.
I thought that get a response !
But honestly I do a lot of track days, all the Wheeltorque Ring and Spa trips, most RMA days, and I seldom see a TVR going quickly> Two exceptions come to mind, there is a guy with a Cerbra registered TVR 1 which is always fully supported by a Portfield mechanic which is very quick, but is no where near standard, and Martin Short, who once came to Bedford Autodrome in a 450 BHP development Cerbra, which pulled maybe 5 metres a lap on my 198 BHP Porsche 968 CS ! As for Morgans, you obviously have never been anywhere that Kieth Alhers is running, he is very, very quick. Regards, Tim
PS I had a TVR Chimaera for a year, didn't do many Track Days with it 'coss it usually broke down before I got there ! But when itwas going it made a great noise.
Tim,
As most of the kit car mob will tell you a seven type car will be all over most other cars on very twisty tracks and on corners at others, but get blasted by tivs down the straight.
Also, much as I love tivs, in standard trim the chim/griff are a handfull in the handling dept. You need to be a _very_ good driver to extact the best. Many other sports cars (esp porsche, bmw etc) are much more forgiving and therefore easier to drive round a track by your average joe.
Morgans are a special case. I would be surprised if the ones at track days are standard factory in the suspension department.
You will no doubt put me right.
Sparks
P.S. I think the plus 8 has a weight advantage over a tiv too.
Ian A
Griff 500Why Oh why does a reasonable discssion on these topics always bring up the brain dead 'i'll kick your ass with a xxxxx'?
Yank Tank, without an awful lot of mods any american car, like your name _IS_A_TANK_ and will be battered on a racetrack by any reasonable british sports car. In a straight line, given the space a corvette is _damn_ fast.
So don't bring up the 'corvettes do well in racing'
Sparks
P.S go home.
P.P.S tongue very much in cheek for most of the above!!
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