RE: MG 75 V8

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gnomesmith

2,458 posts

277 months

Saturday 6th March 2004
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[quote=CarZee] And of course the 5-series chassis is quite upto the task of supportig such a role.
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hut49

3,544 posts

263 months

Saturday 6th March 2004
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donatien said:

PetrolTed said:
I suspect it sounds sensational too!



Er ... the one I followed up the M6 a few weeks back didn't. Wound the window down to get a listen and nothing. OK, so the bloke wasn't caning it but even if it's tall geared there must have been some noise at motorway speeds?

Dave

What colour was it?

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

261 months

Sunday 7th March 2004
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Power needs to be taken past the 400 bhp mark in order to compete with the M5 and Audis,But good on MG Rover on a job well done.

forrestgump

62 posts

252 months

Sunday 7th March 2004
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gnomesmith said:
CarZee said:
And of course the 5-series chassis is quite upto the task of supportig such a role.


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CaeZee, the 75 chassis is not based on the 5 series at all. It is just one of those myth that is untrue.

havanatopia

47 posts

242 months

Sunday 7th March 2004
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hut49 said:

donatien said:


PetrolTed said:
I suspect it sounds sensational too!




Er ... the one I followed up the M6 a few weeks back didn't. Wound the window down to get a listen and nothing. OK, so the bloke wasn't caning it but even if it's tall geared there must have been some noise at motorway speeds?

Dave


What colour was it?


yeah what colour was it? Like i said i had the fan replaced recently but was on the M6 so maybe it was me! Le Mans green ZT mine is.

For best service and great deals on ZT's anybody thinking of buying a new V8 should check out Exeter Motor Group. Brilliant dealership.

cerbman

565 posts

279 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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MG 75V8? It's a Rover 75V8.

Road_Terrorist

5,591 posts

243 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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someone said:
It's styled just right, it's a proper retro homage to the cars that made Rover rightly famous for luxury, style, presence and power at a time when other car companies (that shall remain nameless) were making Austin Dixie's under license or bubble cars.


That would be BMW then , Then again reputations are easier to lose than to build, Rolls Royce used to be the car you bought when you couldn't afford a Skoda (yes, a Skoda) back in the 20s or 30s or whenever it was, then the reds came in and ruined it. There are companies like Toyta/Lexus that work their arses off to be considered in the same light as Mercedes, yet wont be considered better ever, or at least not for a while, even if their car was equal or better in every respect. Then you actually have your Mercedes, Ferrari, Bentley, Rolls etc who really rely on past reputation and brilliance more than anything, its all about marketing, branding, niche markets and image these days.

As for the rover, 260bhp is not a hell of a lot of power, but then it isnt pathetic either. Its probably more to do with marketing again, ie V8, RWD its a way to differentiate from the lower end of themarket and aim a bit higher, trying to pick a niche market for real drivers who like power and RWD but without the soul-less rich prick associations of the German marques. Also since it is the Ford 4.6L v8 from the mustang (possibly the only good thing on the mustang) there are a TON of power increasing mods available in the US, here we have the smae engine in the falcon but with a capacity of 5.4L, sounds brilliant too, just like a V8 should, and definately more than 300 ponies.

Frankly if its wildly successful maybe a few more manufacturers might be tempted to make some similar creations.

Rovertron

416 posts

249 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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5-Series chassis?

Know a lot about cars then?

The 75 chassis is brand new, it's not a 3-series, 5-series or 7-series chassis. It's a Rover 75 chassis with a stiffer torsional rigidity than the 3 or 5 series. Designed and built in Britain not Germany.

As for its market, don't be surprised that this is going someone where fuel is a bit cheaper.....

>> Edited by Rovertron on Monday 8th March 09:41

wedgepilot

819 posts

284 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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My dad's got a 75, and very nice it is too. Now, with a V8 and RWD...

Oh, and despite what Max Muppet and the rest of the mags say, it's not all about headline BHP. A car like this needs oodles of torque, which is exactly what it's got...the more discerning punters it's aimed at will appreciate this as they waft around effortlessly.

simonrockman

6,857 posts

256 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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robbo64

299 posts

244 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Nice one Rover! I bet it'll eat up the motorway, and with a reasonable platform, it should handle decently as well... I just hope people can see beyond the badge and the reputation, so they can discover what a cracking car it is!

>> Edited by robbo64 on Tuesday 9th March 20:20

hut49

3,544 posts

263 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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Why buy the Rover 75 v8 at £35K plus options?

It's auto only; has the engine moved forward a few inches to get extra sound-proofing across the bulkhead; has a softer ride; quiter exhaust and other manoeuvers to go with a "waft you along" demeanour.

Surely if we want raw v8 indulgence and better "scruff of the neck" handling we go for the MG version, get the exhaust mod and give it a damn good thrashing? And buy a 12 month old one and pocket the £10k first year depreciation.

Rover v8 looks nice but is doomed to failure, unless selling 2500 per year is success in Towers book.

B10

1,239 posts

268 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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[quote=CarZee]About time they came up with a decent car - with all those torques sqeezed under the bonnet I bet it wafts marvellously. And of course the 5-series chassis is quite upto the task of supportig such a role.
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Not true to quote http://austinrover.mg-rover.org/.....

"The requirement for body stiffness would be the reason for the large transmission tunnel and structural cross-member under the bonnet. Many elements of the motoring press concluded that the “transmission tunnel” belied the fact that the R40’s floorpan was, in fact, an adapted version that of BMW’s 5-Series. According to one insider, this was never more than an unfounded rumour. The cost of adapting the rear-wheel drive BMW’s floorpan for a front-wheel drive Rover would have been prohibitive, if not somewhat pointless. However, the large transmission tunnel would allow relatively easy conversion to rear wheel drive (barring the lack of space for a rear differential) – and that would prove somewhat fortuitous in later years…"

simonrockman

6,857 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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I met a chassis engineer at Luton airport once, and over a bacon sarnie he said pretty much the same thing. It was in the days when BMW owned Rover and he was on his way to Germany.

Simon

king arthur

6,570 posts

262 months

Sunday 14th March 2004
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hut49 said:
Rover v8 looks nice but is doomed to failure, unless selling 2500 per year is success in Towers book.



2500 a year? I should think they'd be quite pleased with that.

tvralfagtv6

141 posts

255 months

Tuesday 20th April 2004
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Well all i can say is good luck , i have an Mg zt
and it truly is one of the most entertaining cars I have owned at a fraction of the cost,a fraction too heavy for it own good at times but supremely well built.
cars I have owned before Audi s6, porsche 911, Tvr chimaera etc etc the car really is that good to be compared to these!

don't be fooled by figures, a sweet sounding (the kv6 is)flexible revvy and over eager makes up for a second
or so on the stopwatch.


People who know nothing about cars buy vw audi bmw, its german! AHHHH, despite audis having the most aweful handling characteristics with zero feedback etc.
I suggest any one looking for a
piston head car seriously consider the mg badge.

for the road they truly are awesome.

gorrieman

84 posts

245 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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I'm a ZT owner too.....and I always preferred the looks of the ZT to the 75....much more in yer face.

Problem is....I think the V8 75 now looks far better than the new ZT 260. The lesser 75 still aint to my taste....but the front end on that V8 is the biz.

Andy.

david.h

409 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th April 2004
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I tried a ZT260 last week. I have a 190 at present. The 260 was excellent, a bit softer than my early 190, but it handled really well even in dreadful wet weather. Sounded good too, but it had "MG Power" finishers on the tailpipes which may be the reason.And it really went !! No idea of fuel consumption....the computer readout for mpg showed a digital mph readout !!! Very tempting and great value.