DannyLT and AndrewD

DannyLT and AndrewD

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Den

Original Poster:

102 posts

278 months

Thursday 20th November 2003
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Firstly.. hi guys.. how's it going ?

secondly..

do either of you have any laptimes from Snetterton or Brands Indy with you driving the SR3s ?
just a passing interest.. but the Chimaera is up for sale, and I'm musing over wether to buy a serious track toy.

Cheers

Den
www.denlyonracing.com

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th November 2003
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I hope not Kenny as they've only done track days and timing isn't permitted!

Den

Original Poster:

102 posts

278 months

Thursday 20th November 2003
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of course.. how silly of me

how do they compare to your monster Stigness ?



Den
www.denlyonracing.com

nildram

293 posts

262 months

Thursday 20th November 2003
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A race spec SR3 (with a decent driver) will do Snett in 1:09, and Brands Indy in 46 secs...

AndrewD

7,541 posts

285 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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Hi Den!

As Stig has pointed out, track days only done so far.

But I do appear to have some data logging.

Buy one, if you are looking for a serious track toy I doubt you'll be disappointed

Andrew

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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Den,

The Ultima needs some work before I can start thinking about track times as it got a little hot after only 3 laps at Snett! It was abotu 85 degs ambient though.

The SR3s make up time in the corners and having slicks/Avons helps, that said, the Ultima doesn't so much accelerate down the straight as go back in time It's no slouch through the corners either although, there's a fair bit of understeer to be dialled out!

No times yet, but after some winter work it should be a force to be reckoned with

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Monday 24th November 2003
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I don't think you can really compare an SR3 with the road-based Ultima on a track, no matter the power - the aerodynamics, grip and lack of weight mean it's on a different level. Even running well used road legal Dunlop R's only knocks a few mph off cornering speeds (e.g. still 120+ down Craner curves). The only "cars" which appear to come close on trackdays are well driven track prepped GT3s, and even then it's the power dominating down the straights. Almost everything else just lumbers around the bends. As an SR3 amateur, I have no problem hauling in R500's on slicks around corners. A more experienced Radical driver would take it to a different level though - it takes time adjusting to extreme trail braking!

As a track day car, I'm not so sure though. Sure, the ridiculous corner speed is exhilarating, but you inevitably never have clear laps on a track day, and following another car which is obviously on the limit while you're just pootling can get boring.

Plan for next year - some serious tuition alternating with playing on crap tyres. Hopefully it might rain one day too - every day I did was dry this year!

danny

PS Trailering is tedious, though if you're going to trailer at all you may as well go the whole hog!

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Monday 24th November 2003
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PS 1:09 for an SR3 is only 4 seconds off the Formula 3 record!

jeremyc

23,517 posts

285 months

Monday 24th November 2003
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dannylt said:
Plan for next year - some serious tuition alternating with playing on crap tyres. Hopefully it might rain one day too - every day I did was dry this year!
Track days continue year-round Danny; now is the best time to experience a wet day!

Perhaps next year we should swap cars; you can experience the exhiliration of cornering on the limit, and I'll have a go at scary downforce.

Den

Original Poster:

102 posts

278 months

Monday 24th November 2003
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They do strike me as perhaps the best tool for the job .. so to speak.

We'll see, when the TVR goes... if I can sustain myself on Mini racing next year or wether I need more speed.

Cheers

Den

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Monday 24th November 2003
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Jeremy - totally up for a quick swap! I drove your car when it was previously owned; it's partly why I sold the Cerbera. However, would be very interesting to drive it again after the Radical experience! I loved that Caterham 6-speed box especially - I find the sequential uninvolving (commute on a bike), and of course the not so nervous oversteer action.

danny

PS Only reason no more days this year - getting married and going on honeymoon!

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

257 months

Tuesday 25th November 2003
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dannylt said:
PS 1:09 for an SR3 is only 4 seconds off the Formula 3 record!


The Prosport has already lapped Snett quicker than a McLaren F1 GT car, so a fully sorted SR3 should be quicker. 1m 09 sounds about right.

nildram

293 posts

262 months

Wednesday 26th November 2003
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Lap records for Radicals can be found here:

www.radicalmotorsport.com/fastest_race_laps.htm

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

257 months

Wednesday 26th November 2003
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But they're race laps. A qualifying run would be quicker. And don't forget they're being done by guys with fully set-up car on race slicks.

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Wednesday 26th November 2003
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Wasn't trying to compare the two Danny, they are fundamentally different.

Any 'road' car, no matter how track suited will not be a match for something that was designed specifically for track use that weighs the same as a packet of fags and has plenty of power.

It must be frustrating only being able to get 6/10ths out of the driving experience though

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

257 months

Wednesday 26th November 2003
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Stig said:

It must be frustrating only being able to get 6/10ths out of the driving experience though


I personally wouldn't want to go above 4/10s out of an Ultima! But then, that's just me!

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Wednesday 26th November 2003
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Stig said:
Wasn't trying to compare the two Danny, they are fundamentally different.

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It must be frustrating only being able to get 6/10ths out of the driving experience though
"Force to be reckoned with next year"? Sounded like you were comparing them to me!

And I certainly drive it to 10/10ths of my ability when there's a clear track which is plenty exciting!

Having said that, I'd love a passenger ride to feel the acceleration next year! As for that exhaust note...

danny