XKs and rain

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Simpo Two

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265 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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My dear neighbour has decided he's not going to let me erect a car port to keep the rain off my XK convertible.

I've never had to keep a convertible outside before, so my question is - how weatherproof is the XK? I've put two coats of Renovo Ultra Proofer on the hood but even so heavy rain just smashes its way into the fabric. The design of the hood seems very much better than my TVRs, but does it have any weak spots I need to keep an eye on? Is it true the roof has a rubber sheet in it?

P700DEE

1,111 posts

230 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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The only issue with keeping them outside is the green algae that tends to grow on convertibles but you can get stuff to keep it clear. They don't leak smile I've had my X100 12 years kept outside no issues . Note as with any car kept outside instead of a dry garage they do tend to be damper inside. Make sure you keep the aircon on to dry the car and don't let it get damp beneath the carpets (X100s rust there) as the damp causes the trim to come unstuck. Much more of an issue for the Coupes as the headlining drops.

Simpo Two

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Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Thanks, that's reassuring.

The a/c is always on. The manual says you should put silicone on the rubbers before each winter; if anyone has a link to something suitable I'll get it. Thanks again.

psi310398

9,087 posts

203 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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If your neighbour won't let you erect a carport, why not use an outdoor Carcoon instead? Does the protection business and, added bonus, it is considerably more unsightly than a well-built car port.

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Simpo Two

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psi310398 said:
If your neighbour won't let you erect a carport, why not use an outdoor Carcoon instead? Does the protection business and, added bonus, it is considerably more unsightly than a well-built car port.
For long term storage I'd agree but it seems a lot of hassle for the odd trip to the shops... https://www.carcoon.com/carcoon-airflow-systems/ca...

- and as well as being fugly no-one would be able to see my XK cloud9

A compromise might be just a small cover that covers the roof and clips into the wheelarches - will keep rain and frost off the vital bits and is relatively easy to take off and put back.

psi310398

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Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Simpo Two said:
For long term storage I'd agree but it seems a lot of hassle for the odd trip to the shops... https://www.carcoon.com/carcoon-airflow-systems/ca...

- and as well as being fugly no-one would be able to see my XK cloud9

A compromise might be just a small cover that covers the roof and clips into the wheelarches - will keep rain and frost off the vital bits and is relatively easy to take off and put back.
Agree with all but it is so ugly the neighbour might relentsmile. I'd happily lend you my spare but it is in Italy...

Peter

8bit

4,867 posts

155 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Use better hood cleaner and protectant products. We had an MX-5 (+5 PH points, thanks very much) a few years back, I used 303 Convertible Top Cleaner and 303 Aerospace Protectant with very good effect - the cleaner made fairly short work of any build-ups of green algae and the protectant resulted in amazing water beading even in heavy rain.

As for your neighbour, I'll send you some frozen sausages, you know the drill...

Orcadian

312 posts

135 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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Do you need planning permission for one of those caravan awnings screwed to the wall?
I would be reluctant to put any kind of cover over it, especially clipped to the arches as the wind always moves them slightly and dulls the paint around straps - but we do live in Orkney!
Sounds like you have a jealous neighbour who doesn't like you enjoying your XK.
Ian

WOO5IE

933 posts

197 months

Wednesday 12th July 2017
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I have a XK convertible and I use a Hamiltons Classic half cover .Initially this was to keep all of the neighbourhood cats off the soft top which works. A bonus is that it also keeps the rain off as well. So no green verdigris The car is only used a few hours a week so most of the time it is covered. Only down side of the cover is after a couple of years the elastic looses its elasticity. But easy to replace.

I also have a full Hamiltons Classic cover for the TVR as well

Simpo Two

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Wednesday 12th July 2017
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This one? http://www.hamiltonclassic.co.uk/acatalog/CoverCon...

It seems like a decent compromise, thanks. Will also bear in mind 8bit's advice.

WOO5IE

933 posts

197 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Hi,

Yes that's the one I use. It has started to go home a bit now after 31/2 years as they all do.

But it has done the job and no marks on the bodywork.. An no green on the roof.

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Name removed as requested.

Edited by Big Al. on Saturday 15th July 09:38

Jonny TVR

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281 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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RingSpanner

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223 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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Simpo Two said:
My dear neighbour has decided he's not going to let me erect a car port to keep the rain off my XK convertible.
I have a neighbour who tried that trick.
Whilst I don't know your particular circumstance, I'm fairly certain a car port doesn't need any permissions (it should be allowed under General Permitted Development, in Planning Law) provided it's no higher than 2.5 metres.
Have you had a look at the government's planning portal, which sets out in simplistic terms what you can and can't construct, without the need to jump through the planning hoops?

Simpo Two

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Sunday 30th July 2017
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RingSpanner said:
Simpo Two said:
My dear neighbour has decided he's not going to let me erect a car port to keep the rain off my XK convertible.
I have a neighbour who tried that trick.
Whilst I don't know your particular circumstance, I'm fairly certain a car port doesn't need any permissions (it should be allowed under General Permitted Development, in Planning Law) provided it's no higher than 2.5 metres.
Have you had a look at the government's planning portal, which sets out in simplistic terms what you can and can't construct, without the need to jump through the planning hoops?
I've sent a 'pre-application applciation' into the Council to make sure.

The problem is that a corner of the port would be over his land (due to reasons I won't bore you with) and so even if Planning say yes, on the Legal front I will still need permission from the neighbour. Either I'd have to buy the triangle of land from him, or we'd sign a Deed of Easement, but he has refused to do either because he's selling up and doesn't want anything to delay/affect his sale.

RingSpanner

103 posts

223 months

Monday 31st July 2017
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Simpo Two said:
I've sent a 'pre-application applciation' into the Council to make sure.

The problem is that a corner of the port would be over his land (due to reasons I won't bore you with) and so even if Planning say yes, on the Legal front I will still need permission from the neighbour. Either I'd have to buy the triangle of land from him, or we'd sign a Deed of Easement, but he has refused to do either because he's selling up and doesn't want anything to delay/affect his sale.
Two things.
One, be careful with the pre-planning application: my local authority granted me similar, but omitted to tell me I still needed a full application approval as we are in a conservation area; so that was £80-odd up the spout, and...
Two, any planning application will affect, to some degree, the neighbour's sale. Although, you probably already know this.

I had a "tricky" corner on my car port, but the creative builder I engaged was able to accommodate the corner by erecting a steel fabricated frame to support the pan tile roof. The steel supports were then covered with brickwork, so it looked like it was two brick pillars, rather than a steel structured support.

Simpo Two

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Monday 31st July 2017
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RingSpanner said:
One, be careful with the pre-planning application: my local authority granted me similar, but omitted to tell me I still needed a full application approval as we are in a conservation area; so that was £80-odd up the spout, and...
Two, any planning application will affect, to some degree, the neighbour's sale. Although, you probably already know this.
Mine was £35 and it's not a conservation area; I called in to the Council first with the plans and to my surprise they didn't seem bothered that a corner would be over next door. But Planning is one thing, Law is another I hear. If I do need PP, then I will applly for it, and too bad if it affects the sale - he has done me no favours. I could end up, however, with planning permission to build it but not legal permission. I can only hope that the new people are more sympathetic.

Thanks for the input, all useful smile

RingSpanner

103 posts

223 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Simpo Two said:
Mine was £35 and it's not a conservation area; I called in to the Council first with the plans and to my surprise they didn't seem bothered that a corner would be over next door. But Planning is one thing, Law is another I hear. If I do need PP, then I will applly for it, and too bad if it affects the sale - he has done me no favours. I could end up, however, with planning permission to build it but not legal permission. I can only hope that the new people are more sympathetic.

Thanks for the input, all useful smile
Not really much more I can add to that - other than say £35 was a bit of a steal for PPA. I was of the understanding that the fees were set by central government and the standard charges were £80, or £172 for a full application.
Local authorities.... shoot