XF Mk1 longevity
Discussion
So, having stuffed my 5 series into a hedge (dont ask), I'm on the look out for a new runabout. Despite saying I'd never stray from BMW again I find myself drawn to the XF, however I've never driven one and don't know how well they last.
So a couple of questions if I may.
How do they drive compared to the BMW five series (I'm looking at the F10 model now)?
Is the 3.0d worth the premium over the 2.7d? What kind of mileage can I expect on a mixed commute and on the Mway?
And finally, how well do they take high miles? I know the 5 will go forever with the right maintenance, are XF's the same and how do maintenance costs compare?
Oh yeah, and any major pitfalls to avoid?
Ta very much for lookin'
So a couple of questions if I may.
How do they drive compared to the BMW five series (I'm looking at the F10 model now)?
Is the 3.0d worth the premium over the 2.7d? What kind of mileage can I expect on a mixed commute and on the Mway?
And finally, how well do they take high miles? I know the 5 will go forever with the right maintenance, are XF's the same and how do maintenance costs compare?
Oh yeah, and any major pitfalls to avoid?
Ta very much for lookin'
I have the 3.0 in my jag, although the XJ, it's of course the same unit (271bhp the same as the 's' XF) and it's widely regarded as the much better lump.
If you're after longevity, then you should predictably stump the extra for the newer one. I believe the 'base spec' 240bhp 3.0 is faster, torquier etc than the 2.7 - and the issues I've heard of from Land Rover owners with that lump suggest reliability isnt as good either.
In terms of mileage, I've seen 2.7 models with over 200k on them, and whilst they look a little dog-eared visually, the proof is there. 3.0 models are quickly approaching the same mileage, but are of course newer, so have simply hasd less time to amass the distance.
I plan on keeping my car for a number of years, unless the petrol itch gets any worse! It will climb about 100k in 5 years on top of the ~60k it has now. Obviously some maintenance will be required at various stages (I've already had to replace front wishbones, and the sunroof blind has packed up) but as long as you don't scrimp on fixing stuff, they'll last for as long as you fancy!
I always prefer the 'left-field' choice, and although the XF isn't exactly rare, when the mk1 came out it gave people a choice apart from the 5-series and A6 market, I'd say it's a no-brainer.
ETA: I'd seriously ensure you're happy with the spec and toys before you buy. One of the negatives with the modern Jags, in my opinion, is that they aren't as well specced as their German equivalents. I got the XJ I could afford, as whilst it's a huge step up from my previous car, it's missing some toys and features I'd really expect of a car that commanded such a high price when new.
If you're after longevity, then you should predictably stump the extra for the newer one. I believe the 'base spec' 240bhp 3.0 is faster, torquier etc than the 2.7 - and the issues I've heard of from Land Rover owners with that lump suggest reliability isnt as good either.
In terms of mileage, I've seen 2.7 models with over 200k on them, and whilst they look a little dog-eared visually, the proof is there. 3.0 models are quickly approaching the same mileage, but are of course newer, so have simply hasd less time to amass the distance.
I plan on keeping my car for a number of years, unless the petrol itch gets any worse! It will climb about 100k in 5 years on top of the ~60k it has now. Obviously some maintenance will be required at various stages (I've already had to replace front wishbones, and the sunroof blind has packed up) but as long as you don't scrimp on fixing stuff, they'll last for as long as you fancy!
I always prefer the 'left-field' choice, and although the XF isn't exactly rare, when the mk1 came out it gave people a choice apart from the 5-series and A6 market, I'd say it's a no-brainer.
ETA: I'd seriously ensure you're happy with the spec and toys before you buy. One of the negatives with the modern Jags, in my opinion, is that they aren't as well specced as their German equivalents. I got the XJ I could afford, as whilst it's a huge step up from my previous car, it's missing some toys and features I'd really expect of a car that commanded such a high price when new.
Edited by OGR4M on Sunday 26th November 11:37
3.0L every time - power increase for no increase in fuel consumption is IMO a no-brainer. And on that logic, the 'S' version may be worth a look (275 bhp vs 240 - makes a difference!). The 'Portfolio' trim is the top end, luxury the bottom (and premium lux the mid), so if you're looking at an F10 I imagine a 2011 3.0S Portfolio would be comparably priced and probably better spec'd.
In terms of reliability issues, my experience (petrol version) has been one of occasional (and unrepeatable) electrical gremlins - things like the sat-nav disk not being read. Not sure about diesel engine issues, but there's plenty of info on jaguarforums.
In terms of reliability issues, my experience (petrol version) has been one of occasional (and unrepeatable) electrical gremlins - things like the sat-nav disk not being read. Not sure about diesel engine issues, but there's plenty of info on jaguarforums.
Jag_luvver said:
In terms of reliability issues, my experience (petrol version) has been one of occasional (and unrepeatable) electrical gremlins - things like the sat-nav disk not being read. Not sure about diesel engine issues, but there's plenty of info on jaguarforums.
The consensus on the forums regarding these sorts of glitches is that they are the signs of a failing battery or one that is low on charge.I've just bought an ultra-low (7k) mileage 8 year-old XF. The dealer had replaced the battery as a matter of course before marketing the car as they were aware of such issues.
Thanks guys. I've spotted a lovely 3.0s that Im going to look at, nice spec and modern interior. I've noticed that the later 3.0 tends to have lower tax rate than the older ones which is a bonus. Not as good as the 2.0d F10 but much quicker to drive.
I'll see how I get on and report back
I'll see how I get on and report back
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