So I got myself an SVR
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Some very minor tweaking today using the two front rubber height adjusters, very happy now in person looks perfect and even the photos seem to back that up too. 
Also found a set of the same wheels but in the satin grey for a good price, tempted to grab those, put them in storage until Winter is over and throw a set of PS4S on those.
Also found a set of the same wheels but in the satin grey for a good price, tempted to grab those, put them in storage until Winter is over and throw a set of PS4S on those.
Hi there
So as you know I was unsure on gloss black wheels, simply not my style, though admittedly when clean they did look rather nice on the car, but for me a grey/silver looked even nicer and I think suited the lighter blue colour, I think a red, dark blue and even silver would really work well with gloss black but on this shade of blue and with all the carbon fibre I was just disliking it, plus they show up dirt being glossy, great wheels for a garage queen, not so much for a daily user.
As such just picked these up, 4 brand new genuine SVR forged wheels in the grey:
I could of re-painted the black wheels, but I would of lost the SVR logos and as such I did not want to paint an original item and lose some of the authenticity of the car by doing so. As such buying another set was only the other option.
Now I was going to transfer my current tyres and TPMS over to these wheels, but I have made the decision instead to simply sell the current set of wheels, so wheels, tyres, TPMS and bolts and fit all brand to the new wheels and take this opportunity to get some PS4S tyres on the car.
Now my question, stock the car runs Pirelli Pzero PZ4 265/35/20 and 305/30/20 99Y tyres front and year.
My issue is on the rear the PS4S is a 103Y rated tyre, this is to do with loading, now my understanding of tyres is this relates to the tyre wall strength to handle the weight on that axle, I am sure the better compound of the Michelin will result in no adverse effects and even if so the car currently runs 37psi all round cold, so in theory to compensate I could maybe run 37psi front and 35psi rear. I am sure I need to have zero worries and the tyres will probably be in another league anyway, I shall also ask Michelin if they do a 99Y load rated tyre in that size.
I've also got some XFR-S rear caliper plates to cover the pad area which fit very nice, so those will go on and then calipers get a fresh painting, still un-decided on colour but thinking red, yellow or similar blue to the car.
P.S. I weighed the wheels to confirm if they are forged or not. The fronts weigh in at 12.5kg and the rears are 14kg which does indeed confirm they are flowforged wheels. A cast wheel of this size would be several kilos heavier.
P.S.1 I now have a spare set of gloss black SVR forged wheels, with near new Pzero "PZ4" tyres, TPMS and bolts for sale.
So as you know I was unsure on gloss black wheels, simply not my style, though admittedly when clean they did look rather nice on the car, but for me a grey/silver looked even nicer and I think suited the lighter blue colour, I think a red, dark blue and even silver would really work well with gloss black but on this shade of blue and with all the carbon fibre I was just disliking it, plus they show up dirt being glossy, great wheels for a garage queen, not so much for a daily user.
As such just picked these up, 4 brand new genuine SVR forged wheels in the grey:
I could of re-painted the black wheels, but I would of lost the SVR logos and as such I did not want to paint an original item and lose some of the authenticity of the car by doing so. As such buying another set was only the other option.
Now I was going to transfer my current tyres and TPMS over to these wheels, but I have made the decision instead to simply sell the current set of wheels, so wheels, tyres, TPMS and bolts and fit all brand to the new wheels and take this opportunity to get some PS4S tyres on the car.
Now my question, stock the car runs Pirelli Pzero PZ4 265/35/20 and 305/30/20 99Y tyres front and year.
My issue is on the rear the PS4S is a 103Y rated tyre, this is to do with loading, now my understanding of tyres is this relates to the tyre wall strength to handle the weight on that axle, I am sure the better compound of the Michelin will result in no adverse effects and even if so the car currently runs 37psi all round cold, so in theory to compensate I could maybe run 37psi front and 35psi rear. I am sure I need to have zero worries and the tyres will probably be in another league anyway, I shall also ask Michelin if they do a 99Y load rated tyre in that size.
I've also got some XFR-S rear caliper plates to cover the pad area which fit very nice, so those will go on and then calipers get a fresh painting, still un-decided on colour but thinking red, yellow or similar blue to the car.
P.S. I weighed the wheels to confirm if they are forged or not. The fronts weigh in at 12.5kg and the rears are 14kg which does indeed confirm they are flowforged wheels. A cast wheel of this size would be several kilos heavier.
P.S.1 I now have a spare set of gloss black SVR forged wheels, with near new Pzero "PZ4" tyres, TPMS and bolts for sale.
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Not a lot to report, but I spotted one of the carbon vents seem to not be flush, upon closer inspection the retaining clip was missing and the plastic tabs broken. I reported this and at first Jaguar were not so interested, so I went back to the dealer I purchased from and said look it was like this at collection because the photos you sent me it can be seen:
Drivers side vent is sitting a touch high, very hard to see, but once I knew it was there, needed resolving.
Drove to Landrover Chester today, who fitted a new vent, put my plate on also.
Happy that is fixed, retail price is £815 +VAT per vent, crazy, obviously they do not cost Jaguar that, but it is to prevent in short people buying the parts to make a regular F-type look like an SVR.
Not a lot to report, but I spotted one of the carbon vents seem to not be flush, upon closer inspection the retaining clip was missing and the plastic tabs broken. I reported this and at first Jaguar were not so interested, so I went back to the dealer I purchased from and said look it was like this at collection because the photos you sent me it can be seen:
Drivers side vent is sitting a touch high, very hard to see, but once I knew it was there, needed resolving.
Drove to Landrover Chester today, who fitted a new vent, put my plate on also.
Happy that is fixed, retail price is £815 +VAT per vent, crazy, obviously they do not cost Jaguar that, but it is to prevent in short people buying the parts to make a regular F-type look like an SVR.
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So jobs done today:
- New wheels fitted and ceramic coated for protection
- PS4S tyres fitted in stock sizes (305/30/20 rear & 265/35/20 front)
- Rear Jaguar caliper plates fitted to cover brake pads
- Front wing adjusted to perfect alignment
- Thorough inspection of underside, no leaks, zero issues and signs of rust or corrosion.
- British flag valve caps added, it is the small touches.
Some pictures, car is not particular clean and tyres have the white gunk all over them, need to get some soap and give the tyres a good wash and then get some meguiars tyre black on the go, which is about the only tyre gel that seems to work on PS4S due to the fuzzy sidewalls they have.
Jobs to do:
- Fit 5mm spacers all round just to push wheels out a touch, very minor.
- Fit black wheel nuts, will go better with grey wheels than chrome.
- Alignment check and adjust.
- The rear caliper plates stand out like a sore thumb due to them being brand new so glossy red and the rest of the caliper in desperate need of a refurb. All the calipers shall be re-painted in the future, either in red or yellow with black jaguar writing on fronts and black SVR logos on the rear plates, at which point it will all blend nicely.
Just me adding my little touches to the car, very minor details as the car does not need for much as Jaguar pretty much nailed it out the factory.
No needback on PS4S, need to scrub them in first.
So jobs done today:
- New wheels fitted and ceramic coated for protection
- PS4S tyres fitted in stock sizes (305/30/20 rear & 265/35/20 front)
- Rear Jaguar caliper plates fitted to cover brake pads
- Front wing adjusted to perfect alignment
- Thorough inspection of underside, no leaks, zero issues and signs of rust or corrosion.
- British flag valve caps added, it is the small touches.
Some pictures, car is not particular clean and tyres have the white gunk all over them, need to get some soap and give the tyres a good wash and then get some meguiars tyre black on the go, which is about the only tyre gel that seems to work on PS4S due to the fuzzy sidewalls they have.
Jobs to do:
- Fit 5mm spacers all round just to push wheels out a touch, very minor.
- Fit black wheel nuts, will go better with grey wheels than chrome.
- Alignment check and adjust.
- The rear caliper plates stand out like a sore thumb due to them being brand new so glossy red and the rest of the caliper in desperate need of a refurb. All the calipers shall be re-painted in the future, either in red or yellow with black jaguar writing on fronts and black SVR logos on the rear plates, at which point it will all blend nicely.
Just me adding my little touches to the car, very minor details as the car does not need for much as Jaguar pretty much nailed it out the factory.
No needback on PS4S, need to scrub them in first.
I removed near new Pzero "PZ4" J spec from my SVR as on all my cars which alarmingly came fitted with Pzero form factory all had unpredictable handling and in the RWD 911 and Mustang made them almost frightening.
In an AWD having a lesser grip tyre is not end of the world as the AWD will always do a good job at collecting up the mess.
On the F Type as all my other cars I was lacking confidence on the Pzero "PZ4" in cold wet conditions, the car when it let go was quite sudden and abrupt, of course the AWD always put it right or the TC would cut in and straighten the car quite violently. As such I always kept the TC on which as people will know in the cold and wet if you punch it hard in 2nd or 3rd in a straight line at higher RPM can interrupt power delivery by a millisecond due to TC activating briefly, even though in a straight line there was no need but the car was detecting some very minimal slip.
Also on a test roundabout, very large so room for a spin if you really mess up my SVR in the wet could enter at 38mph, at this point turn in would be met by very mild understeer if you turned in too aggressive and on exit quite abrupt over steer unless you really eased gently into the power.
Now I am on PS4S, even on day 1 with release agent still within tyres, the car just felt so much more planted and confident inspiring. Now a couple of days later and over 100 miles the release agent will of course nearly be gone.
My confidence levels are so much high I've now even started to drive the car in the wet with the DSC in the track mode setting as now even though grip levels are higher, resulting in higher corner speeds when the grip does run out the slide is more progressive and because the car is in track mode the car no longer abruptly intervenes violently, now a slide is progressive and the car does as instructed or it naturally straightens by itself depending on steering angle and throttle input.
On the same roundabout, I am yet to find the new limits, but now a 40mph entry, an aggressive turn in is met with a very direct front-end with no understeer whatsoever and the exit I can get to 75-100% throttle application with a very small slide angle without TC intervening resulting in the car just absoluteley catapulting from a roundabout in great style but still feeling very RWD which I love about the SVR, it has that RWD balance, but security of AWD to pull you out a corner when it gets a bit ragged when in the track DSC setting.
Remember my Pzero PZ4 version are only 6 months old, 7mm front and 6mm rear so they are like new, so this difference cannot be put down to replacing near worn with brand new tyres.
In short irrelevant of what magazine or video test say I simply find Pzero lacking in confidence and absolute grip levels.
I've now had Pzero on an E46 M3, 911 C2S (997.1), Ford S550 Mustang V8 and now the SVR. On every car they had an unpredictable nature in wet conditions, in the dry they were always fine, though a bit soft feeling when hot.
On all the above cars I either went to Michelin PS2, MPSS, cups or PS4S and on every single car the difference was dramatic, particular on the 911 and Mustang which can get really out of shape if you lose them in the wet, the 911 due to being rear engine and the Mustang because the S550 chassis is not the best and I am not a pro driver so I need a very well balanced and predictable car.
In short Michelin>Pirelli !!
My only conclusion is Pirelli must sell tyres very cheap to OEM's for them to be supplied on many high-end factory cars and as to why they win so many group test I am unsure as I am yet to have a good experience with Pirelli tyres.
In an AWD having a lesser grip tyre is not end of the world as the AWD will always do a good job at collecting up the mess.
On the F Type as all my other cars I was lacking confidence on the Pzero "PZ4" in cold wet conditions, the car when it let go was quite sudden and abrupt, of course the AWD always put it right or the TC would cut in and straighten the car quite violently. As such I always kept the TC on which as people will know in the cold and wet if you punch it hard in 2nd or 3rd in a straight line at higher RPM can interrupt power delivery by a millisecond due to TC activating briefly, even though in a straight line there was no need but the car was detecting some very minimal slip.
Also on a test roundabout, very large so room for a spin if you really mess up my SVR in the wet could enter at 38mph, at this point turn in would be met by very mild understeer if you turned in too aggressive and on exit quite abrupt over steer unless you really eased gently into the power.
Now I am on PS4S, even on day 1 with release agent still within tyres, the car just felt so much more planted and confident inspiring. Now a couple of days later and over 100 miles the release agent will of course nearly be gone.
My confidence levels are so much high I've now even started to drive the car in the wet with the DSC in the track mode setting as now even though grip levels are higher, resulting in higher corner speeds when the grip does run out the slide is more progressive and because the car is in track mode the car no longer abruptly intervenes violently, now a slide is progressive and the car does as instructed or it naturally straightens by itself depending on steering angle and throttle input.
On the same roundabout, I am yet to find the new limits, but now a 40mph entry, an aggressive turn in is met with a very direct front-end with no understeer whatsoever and the exit I can get to 75-100% throttle application with a very small slide angle without TC intervening resulting in the car just absoluteley catapulting from a roundabout in great style but still feeling very RWD which I love about the SVR, it has that RWD balance, but security of AWD to pull you out a corner when it gets a bit ragged when in the track DSC setting.
Remember my Pzero PZ4 version are only 6 months old, 7mm front and 6mm rear so they are like new, so this difference cannot be put down to replacing near worn with brand new tyres.
In short irrelevant of what magazine or video test say I simply find Pzero lacking in confidence and absolute grip levels.
I've now had Pzero on an E46 M3, 911 C2S (997.1), Ford S550 Mustang V8 and now the SVR. On every car they had an unpredictable nature in wet conditions, in the dry they were always fine, though a bit soft feeling when hot.
On all the above cars I either went to Michelin PS2, MPSS, cups or PS4S and on every single car the difference was dramatic, particular on the 911 and Mustang which can get really out of shape if you lose them in the wet, the 911 due to being rear engine and the Mustang because the S550 chassis is not the best and I am not a pro driver so I need a very well balanced and predictable car.
In short Michelin>Pirelli !!
My only conclusion is Pirelli must sell tyres very cheap to OEM's for them to be supplied on many high-end factory cars and as to why they win so many group test I am unsure as I am yet to have a good experience with Pirelli tyres.
I'm on the Pirellis and whilst the fronts are quite new, the rears are pretty low tread wise.
I always drive mine in dynamic mode, and more often than not in dynamic and sport together.
Have had a few hairy moments recently!
One other thing, purely in the course of experiments, I tried the car in the rain mode thinking it'll save me in the wet.
Well, slamming your foot down even in that mode still gets you sideways
Are your new tyres J rated?
I always drive mine in dynamic mode, and more often than not in dynamic and sport together.
Have had a few hairy moments recently!
One other thing, purely in the course of experiments, I tried the car in the rain mode thinking it'll save me in the wet.
Well, slamming your foot down even in that mode still gets you sideways
Are your new tyres J rated?
MellowshipSlinky said:
I'm on the Pirellis and whilst the fronts are quite new, the rears are pretty low tread wise.
I always drive mine in dynamic mode, and more often than not in dynamic and sport together.
Have had a few hairy moments recently!
One other thing, purely in the course of experiments, I tried the car in the rain mode thinking it'll save me in the wet.
Well, slamming your foot down even in that mode still gets you sideways
Are your new tyres J rated?
Nope Michelin don't do J rated it seems, they are just regular versions, only rating on them is XL for extra load, they are the correct load ratings or higher which makes them fine, Jaguar said fine as did insurance.I always drive mine in dynamic mode, and more often than not in dynamic and sport together.
Have had a few hairy moments recently!
One other thing, purely in the course of experiments, I tried the car in the rain mode thinking it'll save me in the wet.
Well, slamming your foot down even in that mode still gets you sideways
Are your new tyres J rated?
Gibbo205 said:
I removed near new Pzero "PZ4" J spec from my SVR as on all my cars which alarmingly came fitted with Pzero form factory all had unpredictable handling and in the RWD 911 and Mustang made them almost frightening.
In an AWD having a lesser grip tyre is not end of the world as the AWD will always do a good job at collecting up the mess.
On the F Type as all my other cars I was lacking confidence on the Pzero "PZ4" in cold wet conditions, the car when it let go was quite sudden and abrupt, of course the AWD always put it right or the TC would cut in and straighten the car quite violently. As such I always kept the TC on which as people will know in the cold and wet if you punch it hard in 2nd or 3rd in a straight line at higher RPM can interrupt power delivery by a millisecond due to TC activating briefly, even though in a straight line there was no need but the car was detecting some very minimal slip.
Also on a test roundabout, very large so room for a spin if you really mess up my SVR in the wet could enter at 38mph, at this point turn in would be met by very mild understeer if you turned in too aggressive and on exit quite abrupt over steer unless you really eased gently into the power.
Now I am on PS4S, even on day 1 with release agent still within tyres, the car just felt so much more planted and confident inspiring. Now a couple of days later and over 100 miles the release agent will of course nearly be gone.
My confidence levels are so much high I've now even started to drive the car in the wet with the DSC in the track mode setting as now even though grip levels are higher, resulting in higher corner speeds when the grip does run out the slide is more progressive and because the car is in track mode the car no longer abruptly intervenes violently, now a slide is progressive and the car does as instructed or it naturally straightens by itself depending on steering angle and throttle input.
On the same roundabout, I am yet to find the new limits, but now a 40mph entry, an aggressive turn in is met with a very direct front-end with no understeer whatsoever and the exit I can get to 75-100% throttle application with a very small slide angle without TC intervening resulting in the car just absoluteley catapulting from a roundabout in great style but still feeling very RWD which I love about the SVR, it has that RWD balance, but security of AWD to pull you out a corner when it gets a bit ragged when in the track DSC setting.
Remember my Pzero PZ4 version are only 6 months old, 7mm front and 6mm rear so they are like new, so this difference cannot be put down to replacing near worn with brand new tyres.
In short irrelevant of what magazine or video test say I simply find Pzero lacking in confidence and absolute grip levels.
I've now had Pzero on an E46 M3, 911 C2S (997.1), Ford S550 Mustang V8 and now the SVR. On every car they had an unpredictable nature in wet conditions, in the dry they were always fine, though a bit soft feeling when hot.
On all the above cars I either went to Michelin PS2, MPSS, cups or PS4S and on every single car the difference was dramatic, particular on the 911 and Mustang which can get really out of shape if you lose them in the wet, the 911 due to being rear engine and the Mustang because the S550 chassis is not the best and I am not a pro driver so I need a very well balanced and predictable car.
In short Michelin>Pirelli !!
My only conclusion is Pirelli must sell tyres very cheap to OEM's for them to be supplied on many high-end factory cars and as to why they win so many group test I am unsure as I am yet to have a good experience with Pirelli tyres.
Pirelli seem to be able to vary the compound as they wear. Grippy to start with then getting more and more tail happy I find on my XFR-S as they get lower. I got MPS4 on the front and very impressed. I’ll be getting a couple on the back in a few months once the month old Pirellis are done with. In an AWD having a lesser grip tyre is not end of the world as the AWD will always do a good job at collecting up the mess.
On the F Type as all my other cars I was lacking confidence on the Pzero "PZ4" in cold wet conditions, the car when it let go was quite sudden and abrupt, of course the AWD always put it right or the TC would cut in and straighten the car quite violently. As such I always kept the TC on which as people will know in the cold and wet if you punch it hard in 2nd or 3rd in a straight line at higher RPM can interrupt power delivery by a millisecond due to TC activating briefly, even though in a straight line there was no need but the car was detecting some very minimal slip.
Also on a test roundabout, very large so room for a spin if you really mess up my SVR in the wet could enter at 38mph, at this point turn in would be met by very mild understeer if you turned in too aggressive and on exit quite abrupt over steer unless you really eased gently into the power.
Now I am on PS4S, even on day 1 with release agent still within tyres, the car just felt so much more planted and confident inspiring. Now a couple of days later and over 100 miles the release agent will of course nearly be gone.
My confidence levels are so much high I've now even started to drive the car in the wet with the DSC in the track mode setting as now even though grip levels are higher, resulting in higher corner speeds when the grip does run out the slide is more progressive and because the car is in track mode the car no longer abruptly intervenes violently, now a slide is progressive and the car does as instructed or it naturally straightens by itself depending on steering angle and throttle input.
On the same roundabout, I am yet to find the new limits, but now a 40mph entry, an aggressive turn in is met with a very direct front-end with no understeer whatsoever and the exit I can get to 75-100% throttle application with a very small slide angle without TC intervening resulting in the car just absoluteley catapulting from a roundabout in great style but still feeling very RWD which I love about the SVR, it has that RWD balance, but security of AWD to pull you out a corner when it gets a bit ragged when in the track DSC setting.
Remember my Pzero PZ4 version are only 6 months old, 7mm front and 6mm rear so they are like new, so this difference cannot be put down to replacing near worn with brand new tyres.
In short irrelevant of what magazine or video test say I simply find Pzero lacking in confidence and absolute grip levels.
I've now had Pzero on an E46 M3, 911 C2S (997.1), Ford S550 Mustang V8 and now the SVR. On every car they had an unpredictable nature in wet conditions, in the dry they were always fine, though a bit soft feeling when hot.
On all the above cars I either went to Michelin PS2, MPSS, cups or PS4S and on every single car the difference was dramatic, particular on the 911 and Mustang which can get really out of shape if you lose them in the wet, the 911 due to being rear engine and the Mustang because the S550 chassis is not the best and I am not a pro driver so I need a very well balanced and predictable car.
In short Michelin>Pirelli !!
My only conclusion is Pirelli must sell tyres very cheap to OEM's for them to be supplied on many high-end factory cars and as to why they win so many group test I am unsure as I am yet to have a good experience with Pirelli tyres.
fatboy b said:
Pirelli seem to be able to vary the compound as they wear. Grippy to start with then getting more and more tail happy I find on my XFR-S as they get lower. I got MPS4 on the front and very impressed. I’ll be getting a couple on the back in a few months once the month old Pirellis are done with.
Don't get me wrong their are far worse tyres than Pirelli, they are still one of the better tyres on the market but what I took off were near new, very little wear and the improvement from the Michelins is very evident. Certainly finding the car more enjoyable and now confident to keep it in track mode on DSC in all weather, which the car also drives nicer in as power is never interrupted.
I have same car as yours but with glass sunroof.Heavier than the carbon fibre but the extra light in the cabin is great.
If you are looking for another job to do try fitting the laser puddle lights to replace the standard ones. Really cheap and 5 minute job to fit but really add something when you open the doors in the dark. I fitted a pair at the weekend and it is so simple with no changes to wiring etc required.
Here is the link if you are interested:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-JAGUAR-F-TYPE-CREE-L...
If you are looking for another job to do try fitting the laser puddle lights to replace the standard ones. Really cheap and 5 minute job to fit but really add something when you open the doors in the dark. I fitted a pair at the weekend and it is so simple with no changes to wiring etc required.
Here is the link if you are interested:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-JAGUAR-F-TYPE-CREE-L...
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