Another XF 3.0 diesel blown engine (at 53,800 miles)

Another XF 3.0 diesel blown engine (at 53,800 miles)

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AmitG

3,302 posts

161 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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Any luck?

gduk0256

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39 posts

77 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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OK, still no car (yet). It all went very bad, the rebuild company ran off with everyone’s money, leaving engines in bits or worse, dumped in a skip.
Managed to reclaim my dismantled engine from a locked industrial unit. Before they went bust the company had dealt with the assessor from Warranty Direct, who submitted the report to them weeks ago, and they have been waiting for a quote ever since.
At this point I’m down several thousand, foolishly having trusted the company.
The local independent Jaguar specialist in Paisley (which is where I should’ve gone first) submitted a quote to W.Dir for a new engine, and the next day they called me to say they’ve authorised the repair and given the go ahead. They’re paying £8,500 of the £11,500 new engine quote. No quibbles, delays, anything. Had to sit down at that point....
Still a lot of money but at least I know it will be done right.......
Oh well, you live and learn, and if something seems too good to be true it probably is.
Thanks for your interest and comments.
I’ll let you know when I’ve got it back. Jag guy busy for next 2 weeks so booked in after that.

Hainey

4,381 posts

201 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Thats grim, you really do have my sympathies. I know of someone else whose been burned by this lot.

I also think Phil Dicky owes you a serious apology. He's made quite the Dicky of himself on this thread.

gduk0256

Original Poster:

39 posts

77 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Thanks Hainey. They apparently had taken in up to 40 engines. Lots of very upset people all over the U.K., and beyond. I’m fine, disappointed in myself for poor choices (like paying by bank transfer- if I’d done credit card i’d’ve had a claim.)
Thanks for comments of support...I don’t take misguided, negative comments to heart so no worries.

DuraAce

4,240 posts

161 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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gduk0256 said:
, disappointed in myself for poor choices (like paying by bank transfer- if I’d done credit card i’d’ve had a claim.)
ANY company that insists on direct bank transfer before I have said goods in my possession NEVER gets my business.

Glad to hear you're possibly on the right road now though. Good luck.

GoodOlBoy

541 posts

104 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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You said it was the "Engine Workshop" in Dunfermline that you dealt with. Where were they exactly, I can't find any mention of them on the net ?

There is an "Engine Workshop" in Dumbarton, are they the same company ? If so have you tried to contact them ?

gduk0256

Original Poster:

39 posts

77 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Hi
See the tale of woe above, posted 14/5.
Engine Workshop in Dumbarton ran off with lots of people’s money. They went bust, leaving many stranded engineless cars. Not good.

GoodOlBoy

541 posts

104 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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gduk0256 said:
Hi
See the tale of woe above, posted 14/5.
Engine Workshop in Dumbarton ran off with lots of people’s money. They went bust, leaving many stranded engineless cars. Not good.
I did see the tale of woe, but you said your engine builder was in Dunfermline not Dumbarton, hence my question.

I can't see an engine builder listed in Dunfermline.


gduk0256

Original Poster:

39 posts

77 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Dumbarton

GoodOlBoy

541 posts

104 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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gduk0256 said:
Dumbarton
No, Dunfermline.

Strange that you don't remember where you took your engine. Or perhaps it's not wink

gduk0256

Original Poster:

39 posts

77 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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I'm sorry it takes so long to clarify an OBVIOUS typo. You asked for clarification and I gave it. Don't reply.

mph

2,338 posts

283 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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gduk0256 said:
OK, still no car (yet). It all went very bad, the rebuild company ran off with everyone’s money, leaving engines in bits or worse, dumped in a skip.
Managed to reclaim my dismantled engine from a locked industrial unit. Before they went bust the company had dealt with the assessor from Warranty Direct, who submitted the report to them weeks ago, and they have been waiting for a quote ever since.
At this point I’m down several thousand, foolishly having trusted the company.
The local independent Jaguar specialist in Paisley (which is where I should’ve gone first) submitted a quote to W.Dir for a new engine, and the next day they called me to say they’ve authorised the repair and given the go ahead. They’re paying £8,500 of the £11,500 new engine quote. No quibbles, delays, anything. Had to sit down at that point....
Still a lot of money but at least I know it will be done right.......
Oh well, you live and learn, and if something seems too good to be true it probably is.
Thanks for your interest and comments.
I’ll let you know when I’ve got it back. Jag guy busy for next 2 weeks so booked in after that.
Bad outcome, but why did you go to a small company when you had a warranty and why did you have to pay thousands up front ?

My own experience of Warranty Direct is that an estimate is obtained, then agreed, then the work commences. No payment up front.


RRLover

450 posts

203 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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I suppose the OP can only answer that you live & learn.
I've always advised customers to do there research before dealing with any company, thats including mines.
I'm in the industry & see whats happened to the OP a thousand times.
If its too good to be true, then it usually is.

gduk0256

Original Poster:

39 posts

77 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Agree.
It’s been a humbling and humiliating experience. I chose the company because of the reputation of warranty companies not paying up, and in that case it would still be doable.
Lesson well and truly rearmed.
Still at an impasse, as the turbo had been nicked, and the old engine needs reassembled at my expense before returning the JLR or incur a £1500 surcharge.
Not there yet.........

Sheepshanks

32,819 posts

120 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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gduk0256 said:
Agree.
It’s been a humbling and humiliating experience. I chose the company because of the reputation of warranty companies not paying up, and in that case it would still be doable.
Lesson well and truly rearmed.
I've had generally positive experience with Warranty Direct but I have to say I'm nothing short of gobsmacked that they've agreed to pay £8,500 in the circumstances described.

gduk0256

Original Poster:

39 posts

77 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Me too. I literally had to sit down. When putting the quote in we didn’t take into account the old engine having to be reassembled before returning to JLR plus a missing turbo that probably went to someone else’s engine. This puts my contribution to about £4K (let’s forget about the other £4k ....that’s gone)

I’ve written to JLR, who have been communicating, and kept informed of the whole scenario as we went along, been sympathetic but no assistance yet. I’m trying to see if they would accept the dismantled engine returned. That would save £650.
Worth a shot......

gduk0256

Original Poster:

39 posts

77 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Me too. I literally had to sit down. When putting the quote in we didn’t take into account the old engine having to be reassembled before returning to JLR plus a missing turbo that probably went to someone else’s engine. This puts my contribution to about £4K (let’s forget about the other £4k ....that’s gone)

I’ve written to JLR, who have been communicating, and kept informed of the whole scenario as we went along, been sympathetic but no assistance yet. I’m trying to see if they would accept the dismantled engine returned. That would save £650.
Worth a shot......

mph

2,338 posts

283 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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This gets ever more confusing.

Are you saying you paid £4k up front for a £3,450 quote ? I've never heard of such a thing, why would yo do that ? Why didn't you wait for the Warranty Direct response ?


gduk0256

Original Poster:

39 posts

77 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Not surprised...here’s how it went.
Orig quote from EW 3500
Paid said defunct company 1750 up front
Months later when totally dismantled and broken CS discovered, Warranty assessor visit happened so all seemed on track.
THEN they asked for second instalment of 1750 so they could buy a CS but not charge me extra-so they said. I fell for it.
So, 3500 down the drain.
Car at a different garage who removed and refitted engines for EW who also needed paid as EW were owing them for several vehicles engine removal costs. More expense. Also had to fork out to retrieve the dismantled engine from Dumbarton, so total around 4200 lost.
Total fiasco.
At least I got my engine (well, minus a turbo which must’ve gone on someone else’s engine- one of the lucky ones who got away)
A skip full of engines just about to be sold by the estate for scrap.
Movie rights anyone?

Monkeylegend

26,475 posts

232 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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gduk0256 said:
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At least I got my engine (well, minus a turbo which must’ve gone on someone else’s engine- one of the lucky ones who got away)
A skip full of engines just about to be sold by the estate for scrap.
Are you sure it's yours?