XF or not

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chrismarr

Original Poster:

273 posts

97 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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Hi.

At the very early stages of looking for my next car and started looking at boring Mazda 6's and even the odd 5 series - We came home from a walk around a local garage and got stuck behind a beautiful XF. I hadn't even considered one until then...

I have about 11k to spend and want something comfy, refined and reliable - I do about 15/20k miles a year so running costs are quite important, sadly no R models for me.

What should I be looking for? What should I avoid? Should i be looking elsewhere with this lower budget?

Many thanks

w824gb3

257 posts

222 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Go for it. Had a 2011 one for 4 years and had no issues. Just tyres, brakes and servicing.

If refinement is king go for the 3.0d preferably is S tune it is a very quick car. if running costs are more important the 2.2d introduced with the 2012 facelift is fine.

Some reports of washer fluid water wicking into the wiring loom and causing gremlins on facelift cars so make sure all electrics work properly.

pmanson

13,382 posts

253 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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I went from a Mazda 6 2.2d sport (2009) to a 2014 3.0d S XF Sportbrake.

Put circa 60k miles on it in just under three years and it was great. Servicing was taken care of by a local garage. The only issues I had with it were the door locks failing (keyless entry). They were circa £300 each to replace.

Running cost wise it wasn't too bad. circa 32mpg average.

I looked at changing to the new XF sportbrake but I think the interiors aren't as good so I ended up with a Volvo XC90

The Leaper

4,953 posts

206 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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I had an XF V8 5.0 n/a Portfolio for near 3 years, did around 30,000 miles. Fab car, 380 BHP was sufficient. No serious issues at all. Got around 23-25mpg, more on long trips. Great for wafting or spirited driving

Only decided to change because wife found it difficult to enter/exit due to arthritis. Sorely missed.

R.

ShyTallKnight

2,208 posts

213 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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I had a 2010 pre-facelift 3.0d S Portfolio for 3 years and c.50k miles with no issues just routine servicing.

Also had a 2012 XFR for 3 years and 40k'ish miles until recently. Had a few 'niggles' sorted under warranty but nothing untoward.

Great cars i'd have another in a hearbeat but just fancied a change this time round.

chrismarr

Original Poster:

273 posts

97 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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That's great to hear guys - thank you.

I'm lucky that ten minutes from me is a very well established Jag specialist so hopefully it'll be in safe hands there - Prestige Jaguar, Paisley.

I think the 3.0d is the most appealing to me - seems a good mix of power and mpgs! I've heard issues of the seats in some earlier XF's being quite uncomfortable on longer journeys, no lumbar support ?

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Monkeylegend

26,386 posts

231 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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I would do a bit of research on the diesel engines, they have a habit of dumping diesel into the oil if they are stopped during a DPF regen, the problem being the car doesn't tell you when it is doing a regen.

This has disastrous consequences for engine lubrication as you can imagine. Be worth going onto some of the Jaguar forums to find out a bit more about the issue before you commit to buying.


ninjag

1,827 posts

119 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Washer issue effects pre-facelift also.

Dpf not an issue on facelift as it was relocated and crank sleeves redesigned. Great cars, very overlooked.

Etypephil

724 posts

78 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Don't dismiss an XFR; if you drive within 30% of legally, you'll better 30 mpg overall, ours has done more than 76,000 trouble free miles.

ninjag

1,827 posts

119 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Also worth pointing out Honda 1.6 diesel had dilution issues.

If driven properly then the car will simply be passively regen'ing and no need to do an active regen. If you go for a pre-facelift then you can buy the icarsoft tool for just over £100 and it can activate an active regen so you can do it when you know you can let it complete fully. It also shows you if there's any incomplete regens, calculated dilution etc. Very handy tool.

Jim the Sunderer

3,239 posts

182 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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chrismarr said:
That's great to hear guys - thank you.

I'm lucky that ten minutes from me is a very well established Jag specialist so hopefully it'll be in safe hands there - Prestige Jaguar, Paisley.

I think the 3.0d is the most appealing to me - seems a good mix of power and mpgs! I've heard issues of the seats in some earlier XF's being quite uncomfortable on longer journeys, no lumbar support ?

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Yes the seats are quite bad, I believe the fancy 8 way adjustable seats have lumbar support.

I use a cushion.

ninjag

1,827 posts

119 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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I believe the seats were revised with the facelift, I'm not sure if all the derivatives have adjustable lumbar but my Premium Luxury does and the portfolio I'm sure has adjustable bolsters as well. The leather outside of the perforated bit is very nice and soft, not that rubber feel you get with standard bmw etc. But the leather seats in Honda is slightly better in my option, especially the older models.

pd2

241 posts

149 months

Sunday 4th August 2019
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Hi Chris,

Did you get round to buying anything?

I highly recommend Dougie at Prestige Jag, helped me with advice and carried out a major service on my car. I’m only 10 minutes from the too.

I have an early XFR averaging 16-18mpg normally (must be doing something wrong..... or right!).

You’re more than welcome for a nosey around it and take you a quick run.

Paul.