E Pace v German Rivals

E Pace v German Rivals

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Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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I ve had what is supposed to be the absolute worst do not touch with a barge pole 150 2wd r-dynamic e-pace, and its been great. nice to drive on a long trip, great handling, front end grip even in the 2wd is great, and on a 70ish motorway run it can hit 60 mpg... It s no rocket ship off the line, but mid range is good. half the issue with it being slow imho is that it feels a lot slower than it is.. 80 on the motorway fels like about 50. its got good mid range so a good point to point car. 20kmiles and no problems....DPF issues seem to be people that chug around doing 2 miles at a time around town. which just about every modern diesel struggles with. Its not a light car, and the comparison with the f-pace isnt fair as the f-pace is very light for its class. I looked at the xc40 but he jag was soo much nicer to drive.


Dealers are st though I will give you that, I've almost punched the sales director in the face once already...

davidd

6,452 posts

284 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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We've got an epace 2.0 180. Is it the nicest engine ever? No. It is a 2.0 turbo diesel, fine for the car though. It is a nice place to spend a day, quick enough, handles well enough. When we were looking (18 months ago) it was the best option at the price. I would have rather stretched a bit and gone volvo though.

We also have an ftype v8r which is a more exciting proposition, can't get the dogs in though.

2 jags, am I john Prescott?

Pursyluv

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1,927 posts

174 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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davidd said:
We've got an epace 2.0 180. Is it the nicest engine ever? No. It is a 2.0 turbo diesel, fine for the car though. It is a nice place to spend a day, quick enough, handles well enough. When we were looking (18 months ago) it was the best option at the price. I would have rather stretched a bit and gone volvo though.

We also have an ftype v8r which is a more exciting proposition, can't get the dogs in though.

2 jags, am I john Prescott?
That nick named had cross my mind until I bought the German, looking forward to getting the F Type next year, although an M3 is starting to look tasty hehe

a8hex

5,830 posts

223 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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davidd said:
2 jags, am I john Prescott?
I tackled that issue by buying a third one biggrin
Back down to only 2 though now but one is an XKR so even more punch than Mr Prescott.

Pursyluv

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1,927 posts

174 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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a8hex said:
I tackled that issue by buying a third one biggrin
Back down to only 2 though now but one is an XKR so even more punch than Mr Prescott.
I’ve not considered an XKR, as I’ve been focused purely on the F Type, am I missing a trick by not doing so?

Simpo Two

85,445 posts

265 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Pursyluv said:
I’ve not considered an XKR, as I’ve been focused purely on the F Type, am I missing a trick by not doing so?
Well it's rather different from an E-Pace!

However they stopped making them in 2014, so if you like new metal that may bother you. At present Jaguar have no 'grand tourer' 2+2 in their range, and the so the line XJS > XK8 > XK is extinct. If you're after horsepower I think the 5.0 XKR has 520bhp, more than a V12 Aston.

Pursyluv

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1,927 posts

174 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Simpo Two said:
Pursyluv said:
I’ve not considered an XKR, as I’ve been focused purely on the F Type, am I missing a trick by not doing so?
Well it's rather different from an E-Pace!

However they stopped making them in 2014, so if you like new metal that may bother you. At present Jaguar have no 'grand tourer' 2+2 in their range, and the so the line XJS > XK8 > XK is extinct. If you're after horsepower I think the 5.0 XKR has 520bhp, more than a V12 Aston.
Yeah I’m jumping around a bit, the E Pace was going to be a company car, the F Type is to replace my Tamora, the E Pace option is gone now but the toy will definitely be a Jag

fatboy b

9,494 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Simpo Two said:
Well it's rather different from an E-Pace!

However they stopped making them in 2014, so if you like new metal that may bother you. At present Jaguar have no 'grand tourer' 2+2 in their range, and the so the line XJS > XK8 > XK is extinct. If you're after horsepower I think the 5.0 XKR has 520bhp, more than a V12 Aston.
Standard 5.0 XKR is 503bhp. The XKR75 limited edition was 520bhp. Then the R-S was 542.

Simpo Two

85,445 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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fatboy b said:
Standard 5.0 XKR is 503bhp. The XKR75 limited edition was 520bhp. Then the R-S was 542.
Thanks. Either me or Autotrader got their wires crossed.

Apols to the OP for over-promising 17bhp!

Pursyluv

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1,927 posts

174 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Simpo Two said:
fatboy b said:
Standard 5.0 XKR is 503bhp. The XKR75 limited edition was 520bhp. Then the R-S was 542.
Thanks. Either me or Autotrader got their wires crossed.

Apols to the OP for over-promising 17bhp!
XKR-S 575bhp according to Autotrader adverts, I assume these are independent dealerships that don't really know what's

davidd

6,452 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Pursyluv said:
Yeah I’m jumping around a bit, the E Pace was going to be a company car, the F Type is to replace my Tamora, the E Pace option is gone now but the toy will definitely be a Jag
XKR lovely, feel dated inside though.
Ftype more lovely, much more modern interior (still behind the Germans though) and more loutish. It is the sensible option following TVR ownership.

Simpo Two

85,445 posts

265 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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davidd said:
XKR lovely, feel dated inside though.
Ftype more lovely, much more modern interior...
Well there ya go, for me the XK/R has the best interior of almost any car whilst the F-Type is just black plastic with a weird angley bit smile

Pursyluv

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1,927 posts

174 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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davidd said:
XKR lovely, feel dated inside though.
Ftype more lovely, much more modern interior (still behind the Germans though) and more loutish. It is the sensible option following TVR ownership.
Loutish..............great word!

fatboy b

9,494 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Pursyluv said:
Simpo Two said:
fatboy b said:
Standard 5.0 XKR is 503bhp. The XKR75 limited edition was 520bhp. Then the R-S was 542.
Thanks. Either me or Autotrader got their wires crossed.

Apols to the OP for over-promising 17bhp!
XKR-S 575bhp according to Autotrader adverts, I assume these are independent dealerships that don't really know what's
Autotrader doesn’t get it right.

575 is the f-type R and the XJR575.

John Locke

1,142 posts

52 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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fatboy b said:
Autotrader doesn’t get it right.

575 is the f-type R and the XJR575.
Actually the F-type R is 542 bhp; the SVR and XJR 575 are both 567 bhp (575 PS in dodgy foreign measurements).

Manufacturer's figures which are a) understated if one believes calculations from dynamometer testing, and b) the apparent differences of these engines in various installations are accounted for by easily amended software, so for a few quid, you can have almost any numbers which take your fancy.