RE: Jaguar revives Daimler badge
Discussion
I think it is a good thing to bring back the Daimler as the ultimate passenger end of their offering.
The S is a nice car and ideal for those who don't want a 5 series or Merc.
The X is a shocker and should be scrapped immediately.
Daimler and Jaguar in the 70s & 80s were the same as Rolls and Bently.
Jags and Bentlys were the drivers' luxury wagons with a sporting heritage, while Daimlers and Rolls were designed to be utilised from the back seat.
It's about time Jag bought back the proper 'Executive' car with 100% focus on rear seat luxury.
The S is a nice car and ideal for those who don't want a 5 series or Merc.
The X is a shocker and should be scrapped immediately.
Daimler and Jaguar in the 70s & 80s were the same as Rolls and Bently.
Jags and Bentlys were the drivers' luxury wagons with a sporting heritage, while Daimlers and Rolls were designed to be utilised from the back seat.
It's about time Jag bought back the proper 'Executive' car with 100% focus on rear seat luxury.
[quote=Horse_Apple]The X is a shocker and should be scrapped immediately.
Daimler and Jaguar in the 70s & 80s were the same as Rolls and Bently.
Wrong, Rolls and Bentleys didn't constantly breakdown or rot in a few years, in the 70s and 80s as Daimler and Jaguars did under the stewardship of BL<AHHH>.
Do you own an X?
1. They're well built(just won awards for the car and the factory from JD Power)
2. Mechanically no real problems with them from any of the engines.
Not so the XK or XJ, ask their owners about Nikasil and chain tensioners destroying engines.
The X is the bread and butter to allow the Daimler to be the Jam in the Jaguar range. Ford have Aston Martin if you want exclusiveity.
Many jaguar owners seem to look back with tinted specs to the old days, well as our American cousins say, 'smell the coffee' it's the 21st century and Jaguar are moving with the times, producing a better quality product then they ever did in the 70's or 80's
Daimler and Jaguar in the 70s & 80s were the same as Rolls and Bently.
Wrong, Rolls and Bentleys didn't constantly breakdown or rot in a few years, in the 70s and 80s as Daimler and Jaguars did under the stewardship of BL<AHHH>.
Do you own an X?
1. They're well built(just won awards for the car and the factory from JD Power)
2. Mechanically no real problems with them from any of the engines.
Not so the XK or XJ, ask their owners about Nikasil and chain tensioners destroying engines.
The X is the bread and butter to allow the Daimler to be the Jam in the Jaguar range. Ford have Aston Martin if you want exclusiveity.
Many jaguar owners seem to look back with tinted specs to the old days, well as our American cousins say, 'smell the coffee' it's the 21st century and Jaguar are moving with the times, producing a better quality product then they ever did in the 70's or 80's
dominicf said:
Daimler and Jaguar in the 70s & 80s were the same as Rolls and Bently.
Wrong, Rolls and Bentleys didn't constantly breakdown or rot in a few years, in the 70s and 80s as Daimler and Jaguars did under the stewardship of BL.
Yes but that was the whole point of them. You got something interesting and exotic (a straight sixes and v12 rather than crossplane v8s) at a reasonable price. People buy Alfa Romeos in droves today and they're equivolently as unreliable as the BL ones. People will compromise on practicality, economy and quality for something special. At the minute their styling for the entire range looks like a series 3/mk2 shaped bars of soap dropped in the bath.
>> Edited by greg2k on Friday 5th August 16:06
dominicf said:
[quote=Horse_Apple]The X is a shocker and should be scrapped immediately.
Daimler and Jaguar in the 70s & 80s were the same as Rolls and Bently.
Wrong, Rolls and Bentleys didn't constantly breakdown or rot in a few years, in the 70s and 80s as Daimler and Jaguars did under the stewardship of BL<AHHH>.
Do you own an X?
1. They're well built(just won awards for the car and the factory from JD Power)
2. Mechanically no real problems with them from any of the engines.
Not so the XK or XJ, ask their owners about Nikasil and chain tensioners destroying engines.
The X is the bread and butter to allow the Daimler to be the Jam in the Jaguar range. Ford have Aston Martin if you want exclusiveity.
Many jaguar owners seem to look back with tinted specs to the old days, well as our American cousins say, 'smell the coffee' it's the 21st century and Jaguar are moving with the times, producing a better quality product then they ever did in the 70's or 80's
Oh yes they did. Paint quality was poor. Electrics a pain. Reliability poor. And they rusted like hell.
They stayed on the road longer than jags and D's because the owners threw more money at them.
As a kid they were just more comfortable to sit in the back of when waiting for the AA.
Besides, the analogy with RR and Bents was to do with what type of person buys them for what purpose. There was no mention as to build quality etc.
Simply put, a RR or a D was driven by a driver, whereas the B or the Jag was driven by the owner.
The X is a shocker and it should be scrapped immediately. Sadly, the economic environment we now enjoy has a few prices to pay and that is that high end marks must have low end entry models to meet scales of economy and to reduce exposure to market dynamics.
Having said that, if I had a company car then I would prefer an X to a Mondeo or similar.
They are certainly at the preferable end of the 'fleet' market.
>> Edited by Horse_Apple on Monday 8th August 12:16
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