Looking at this F Type, thoughts

Looking at this F Type, thoughts

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Merc 450

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973 posts

100 months

ziggy328

872 posts

215 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Looks ok. But the seats. 12k and they already look shabby IMO. I’m sure they will clean up but not for me.

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

53 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Nice car, seats should clean up ok.

Merc 450

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973 posts

100 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Seats are immaculate if you look closer it's the reflection of the guy in a dark suit taking the photo

ziggy328

872 posts

215 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Yep. You could very well be correct.

Mr Squarekins

1,050 posts

63 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Thoughts? It's lovely, buy it. When you're older, you won't remember the boring cars.

vaud

50,713 posts

156 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Might need a proper detail looking at both seats and the bottom of the wheel.

Merc 450

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973 posts

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Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Mr Squarekins said:
Thoughts? It's lovely, buy it. When you're older, you won't remember the boring cars.
£30K Trade in for the Mustang 5.0GT too

YorksLS18

56 posts

14 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Last of the pre-facelift 550bhp V8s. Which is good!

I wouldn't say it's going for a song - you'll find a comparable one through Jaguar for that money, probably less if you're patient. But if you love the spec then it's worth a look.

From personal experience buying one fairly recently, my insurance quotes for pre-facelift V8 were a few hundred quid higher than facelift V8s (P450), probably due to the 100bhp difference. But that may not be an issue for you.

Also remember it may still be subject to the higher tax of around £500-something a year on a 19 plate.


Merc 450

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973 posts

100 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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YorksLS18 said:
Last of the pre-facelift 550bhp V8s. Which is good!

I wouldn't say it's going for a song - you'll find a comparable one through Jaguar for that money, probably less if you're patient. But if you love the spec then it's worth a look.

From personal experience buying one fairly recently, my insurance quotes for pre-facelift V8 were a few hundred quid higher than facelift V8s (P450), probably due to the 100bhp difference. But that may not be an issue for you.

Also remember it may still be subject to the higher tax of around £500-something a year on a 19 plate.
Thanks, trade in on the Mustang 5.0 GT at jaguar dealers in Cumbria is very low. Tax would be £575 ish a year but at 3000 miles a year fuel costs are minimal

reddiesel

2,003 posts

48 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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I certainly don't think its anything special but please make yourself familiar with the Model before committing to any Purchase . Bodywork wise your first port of call should be the rubber seal between the glass moonroof and the bodywork . Pull back the rubber seal and check for any overspray or any edges . If the paintwork has been freshened up for whatever reason the moonroof will always remain in situ so for that reason its an instant giveaway . The Black Trim around the side quarter windows is another checkpoint , these were unobtainable throughout Covid and in any case are very difficult to remove without breaking so most repairers therefore just mask up to the edge when applying any paint . One Private Owner is always good news when it comes to these and indeed any sort of Car . The only caveat to this is that you don't want JLR as being that One Owner though to be fair the Car is a bit long in the tooth for that to be the case .

Edited by reddiesel on Thursday 30th November 17:21

Merc 450

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973 posts

100 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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It's only 4 years old with 12000 miles, 3000 miles a year same as my 5.0 GT. I'm thinking the marks on the seats must be reflections off the guy taking the photos and off the ceiling which is grey through the glass roof either that or the previous owner was a coal merchantbiggrin
550hp and 4 wheel drive with exhaust you can turn up tick all my childish boxes even though I'm 60 next year. Would prefer a red or black one but if it's for sale when I've sold the Mustang surely 🤔 that's fate biggrin

SFTWend

866 posts

76 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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I've looked at that one a couple of times (on the net). It started at £55k in August.

The low ownership and mileage is nice and grey is good for resale. Being a 2019 model it has Carplay. However, I think there are several factors against it;

For slightly more you can get an SVR, which I suspect will hold its money much better. I've also seen facelift 2020 575s with Jag main dealers for £55k.
I believe the 2019 model has the GPF so muffled exhaust.
I'd want to swap the wheels and Pirelli tyres but the wheels are just personal preference.

Let us know how you get on.

Panamax

4,143 posts

35 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Merc 450 said:
It's only 4 years old with 12000 miles, 3000 miles a year....
So why do those front discs look as though it's been standing in a scrapyard? Several warning signs on and around this car IMO.

Most cars depreciate about 50% of their value in the first three years. Did this cost over £100k when it was new?

jagseven

199 posts

227 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Nice spec - worth a closer look as photos can distort things (like the brake discs and seat condition!)
Why are you selling the Mustang? The Mustang will hold its value better.
In 2019 I bought a new jag for 75k and my brother bought a new Mustang GT for 42k - today they are worth about the same!

reddiesel

2,003 posts

48 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Merc 450 said:
It's only 4 years old with 12000 miles, 3000 miles a year same as my 5.0 GT. I'm thinking the marks on the seats must be reflections off the guy taking the photos and off the ceiling which is grey through the glass roof either that or the previous owner was a coal merchantbiggrin
550hp and 4 wheel drive with exhaust you can turn up tick all my childish boxes even though I'm 60 next year. Would prefer a red or black one but if it's for sale when I've sold the Mustang surely ?? that's fate biggrin
With the utmost respect to yourself Im feeling a bit " life crisis " about this post and that worries me . Firstly please don't go for the first F Type you see and secondly do your homework on the Model . I cant stress this enough .
This is not a Bargain for the Money and this is by no means a Rare Car . Completely ignore the Mileage Covered unless its substantiated by Service History associated Paperwork and even the Testimonial of the Previous Owner and bear in mind that £80 alters the mileage of any Jaguar .
I was 60 myself last month and a new GTS outside bears witness to the fact that I am feeling what you are feeling but please go carefully with this latest Purchase .

reddiesel

2,003 posts

48 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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SFTWend said:
I've looked at that one a couple of times (on the net). It started at £55k in August.

The low ownership and mileage is nice and grey is good for resale. Being a 2019 model it has Carplay. However, I think there are several factors against it;

For slightly more you can get an SVR, which I suspect will hold its money much better. I've also seen facelift 2020 575s with Jag main dealers for £55k.
I believe the 2019 model has the GPF so muffled exhaust.
I'd want to swap the wheels and Pirelli tyres but the wheels are just personal preference.

Let us know how you get on.
Good Advice especially regarding the SVR though the best of these I think are around £65k northwards . Jaguars most potent Sports Car by a Country Mile though doubtless there will be a fellow Jaguar enthusiast along in a minute claiming that title for the 575 .
You are right about the muffled exhaust on the19 cars ......sadly

Merc 450

Original Poster:

973 posts

100 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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SFTWend said:
I've looked at that one a couple of times (on the net). It started at £55k in August.

The low ownership and mileage is nice and grey is good for resale. Being a 2019 model it has Carplay. However, I think there are several factors against it;

For slightly more you can get an SVR, which I suspect will hold its money much better. I've also seen facelift 2020 575s with Jag main dealers for £55k.
I believe the 2019 model has the GPF so muffled exhaust.
I'd want to swap the wheels and Pirelli tyres but the wheels are just personal preference.

Let us know how you get on.
Thanks for that, my mate who has a commercial vehicle garage and also does cars reckons the 550hp pre 2019 one will pop and fart like my old Cerbera he also reckons the post 2019 450hp one may be a bit quiet for me after the Mustang.
I love the sound of the 6.3 v8 merc use or a cerbera Mustang etc, that,s what i'm hoping this sounds like.The F pace SVR definitley does

reddiesel

2,003 posts

48 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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Merc 450 said:
Thanks for that, my mate who has a commercial vehicle garage and also does cars reckons the 550hp pre 2019 one will pop and fart like my old Cerbera he also reckons the post 2019 450hp one may be a bit quiet for me after the Mustang.
I love the sound of the 6.3 v8 merc use or a cerbera Mustang etc, that,s what i'm hoping this sounds like.The F pace SVR definitley does
Its a 19 or Post 19 550hp you want rather than the 450hp and there are plenty of them around many under the Jaguar Approved Scheme which gives you a little bit more peace of mind should something go wrong and thankfully not much does .

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202309252...

Here is one I glanced at the other day which I am sure you have seen . I don't offer any recommendation one way or the other as regards this particular car but I feel as it was already supplied by the selling Jaguar Dealer and has little price differential over a " Grey Market ' Car , it rapidly becomes a question of why wouldn't you ? I notice the Wheel wants refurbing so I would be making an Offer

reddiesel

2,003 posts

48 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311274...


Another one here . Very much yesterdays news and at this time of year I suspect they will be open to offers