RE: Jaguar XK8

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triple7

4,013 posts

238 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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bi9_jk said:
You know what it needs - on the front the jaguar badge needs to be up at the base of the bonnet where it was in the old car just to break the front a little - cos it looks like somebodys stole the badge.


Ahhhhhh, but putting the badge up there would remove somebodies knee cap should they be fortunate to be hit buy one! :d

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triple7

4,013 posts

238 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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They are using the E-type for inspiration, if you look a t the grille on that you will see its down there too on the E

dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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Nice one Gram

Are the pics of the red Jag yours?

Why do I think this car is a classic because most competition is bland?

a8hex

5,830 posts

224 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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triple7 said:
They are using the E-type for inspiration, if you look a t the grille on that you will see its down there too on the E


But it's called an XK so it should have the badge at the top, above the radiator - that's where XK's put their badges






Ken

grahambell

2,718 posts

276 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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dinkel said:
Nice one Gram

Are the pics of the red Jag yours?

Why do I think this car is a classic because most competition is bland?


Hi dinkel,

Yep, I took the ones of the red coupe and the interior/boot shots of the black coupe at the lunch halt on the press drive. Having to share cars and stick to set route meant there wasn't really scope to do much photography, hence other photos being Jag press items.

While some people here seem to think it looks bland, Jag's test route took us past a school at closing time and the XK got plenty of 'Like your car mate' comments from the kids. So who says Jags are just for the middle aged?

dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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grahambell said:
dinkel said:
Why do I think this car is a classic because most competition is bland?

While some people here seem to think it looks bland, . . .


Like I said IMO it's the Jags competition that looks bland . . . this's a winner.

triple7

4,013 posts

238 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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a8hex said:
triple7 said:
They are using the E-type for inspiration, if you look a t the grille on that you will see its down there too on the E


But it's called an XK so it should have the badge at the top, above the radiator - that's where XK's put their badges






Ken


Good point well made, I have always thought jag shouldn't have called it an XK, but here is a pic form Jag showing the XK evolution, interesting that they use the E-Type......................



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triple7

4,013 posts

238 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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Agree with the earlier post that a badge on the top of the bumper would help that part of the car out.

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paul_pot

192 posts

229 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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Was the E-type not also known as the XKE?

With regards to the new car's looks, I think it's fantastic.

It wasn't until this article came up that I really took the opportunity to properly look at the car. That accelerating curve forming the side windows, more dynamic than the old car and nicely echoing the E-type. The stance is much improved, and the whole side profile of the car is much more resolved than previously with those tight rear haunches. That rear window is pure E-Type too, and looks great.

It seems quite colour sensitive, not sure if red really suits it. Looked great in a photo I think Triple7 posted up on another thread, Quartz I think was the colour.

I was a fan of the current XK8, thought it was an attractive car (odd front lights aside) overshadowed by the fact that it looked similar too, but not as nice as a DB7 (although the XK was technically superior).

dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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paul_pot said:
Was the E-type not also known as the XKE?



Yup.

I'd have the Jag over the DB7 6pot . . .

It looks bigger with a gall next to it.

>> Edited by dinkel on Thursday 6th April 15:43

Darth Dave

2,253 posts

233 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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Saw one in silver in my work car park today and what a tasty looking car it was too.

a8hex

5,830 posts

224 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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triple7 said:
a8hex said:
triple7 said:
They are using the E-type for inspiration, if you look a t the grille on that you will see its down there too on the E


But it's called an XK so it should have the badge at the top, above the radiator - that's where XK's put their badges




Ken


Good point well made, I have always thought jag shouldn't have called it an XK, but here is a pic form Jag showing the XK evolution, interesting that they use the E-Type......................



G


Interesting choice of cars they use.

D-Type / XKSS (altough I'm not sure about the bonnet vent near the right wing)
XJ13 (surely the most beautiful car of all time )
Then an E-Type
Then the XK8 mk1
Then the new XK8

Shouldn't the E-Type and the XJ13 be the otherway around.



And yes I did know that in the US the E-Type was the XKE, but I choose to leave out that data point since it didn't fit my hypothesis

groomi

9,317 posts

244 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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a8hex said:


And yes I did know that in the US the E-Type was the XKE, but I choose to leave out that data point since it didn't fit my hypothesis



Ah, selective referencing. You should be a politician.

paulothegangsta

47 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th April 2006
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I think the Jag looks great, saw one recently parked up and another overtook me on the m69. Both looked great and from what I've read promise to have great dynamic traits. Good one Jaguar, they just need to give the X type a better, more futuristic look, like the new XK.

silverspeed

1,505 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th April 2006
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Had mine for two weeks. Besides a bit of wind noise and a rattle from the seat belt it has been fantastic. Not had one negative comment from anyone who has been it it yet. I have to confess i have a soft spot for Jaguar - this is my fourth but I cannor believe how good this car is. I had an early 6 series - at this stage of ownership it had been back to the dealer 3 times for various issues including a new steering rack ! Well done Jaguar - I was expecting some major early car issues - so far so good.

Cant wait for the R.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 9th April 2006
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I saw one of these for the first time yesterday in Canterbury. I wasn't blown away but I do think its an attractive car.

My dad is about to change his car (currently a merc s class diesel....). Need to persuade him that he needs one of these in his life - or more to the point, his hooligan son needs one.....

speedy_thrills

7,760 posts

244 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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If it didn’t have a badge and I had to guess I would guess it was an uber Hyundai and not a Jaguar. On the other hand the F-type looked a lot like a modernised E-type, the shape of the body is better reflected than this.

Can some one explain to me how the gearbox is “better” than a standard slush ‘box with a manual overdrive?

Also is the aluminium construction worth it? I mean it’s not any lighter than the BMW 6-series or Porsche 911 Carerra S (which are I believe it’s main rivals in the U.S. market). Also is the chassis really a genuine monocoque or is it just glued/welded/riveted together like many other cars?

I’m predicting PHers will hold out for two things:
1. A manual gearbox.
2. More power.
No doubt in later models they will find ways to reduce the weights as well which should make it a very PH sort of car.

Edit: Although if any one from Jaguar is reading we want the F-type .

>> Edited by speedy_thrills on Monday 10th April 07:15

dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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grahambell

2,718 posts

276 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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speedy_thrills said:

Can some one explain to me how the gearbox is “better” than a standard slush ‘box with a manual overdrive?


Apart from the fact it changes gears quicker, the paddles are far better suited to enthusiastic driving than simply moving the lever another notch in the gate. Not as satisfying as a proper manual change, but the sequential paddle shift means you can use it hard without worrying about 'wrong slotting' it in the gate.

speedy_thrills said:
Also is the aluminium construction worth it? I mean it’s not any lighter than the BMW 6-series or Porsche 911 Carerra S (which are I believe it’s main rivals in the U.S. market). Also is the chassis really a genuine monocoque or is it just glued/welded/riveted together like many other cars?


Don't know where you got your figures, but the XK is both a lot lighter and a lot stiffer than the Beemer. Not sure about the Porker. And yes, it is glued/rivetted together, though why do you think that stops it being a genuine monocoque? Aluminium race car monocoques are rivetted.

speedy_thrills

7,760 posts

244 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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grahambell said:
speedy_thrills said:
Is the aluminium construction worth it? I mean it’s not any lighter than the BMW 6-series or Porsche 911 Carerra S (which are I believe it’s main rivals in the U.S. market). Also is the chassis really a genuine monocoque or is it just glued/welded/riveted together like many other cars?


Don't know where you got your figures, but the XK is both a lot lighter and a lot stiffer than the Beemer. Not sure about the Porker. And yes, it is glued/rivetted together, though why do you think that stops it being a genuine monocoque? Aluminium race car monocoques are rivetted.
My source: http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/compar

Not sure about stiffness, if any one can find figures they would be welcome.