RE: Jaguar updates its flagship saloon
Discussion
UNPC said:
The side vents are my work but I was only following orders! Actually, in the flesh, it doesnt look too bad as has been mentioned, but whether it needed it is another matter. I've always liked the look of the old car. Shame nobody else did.
Looks like nothing's changed then....
Here's what they needed to do
-the front was fine
-the back needed to be lowered (espcially the boot lid and roofline) to give it a more pouncing cat like stance
-The rear number plate needed lowereing and centralising in the vertical plane
-Looking down on the car, the rear lights etc were very flat-this needed a bit of curve (a la S type and XK)
The interior needed scrapping-the dash should have been covered in leather and all cheap and nasty brittle black plastic needed changing
The emissions on the petrol models are appalling and needed refining (the new 530i pertol is 180g/km compared to 240 for the 3.0 litre XJ!
All models should be fitted with 19" alloys with the suspension designed to cope...
Love the side vents and thats it!
-the front was fine
-the back needed to be lowered (espcially the boot lid and roofline) to give it a more pouncing cat like stance
-The rear number plate needed lowereing and centralising in the vertical plane
-Looking down on the car, the rear lights etc were very flat-this needed a bit of curve (a la S type and XK)
The interior needed scrapping-the dash should have been covered in leather and all cheap and nasty brittle black plastic needed changing
The emissions on the petrol models are appalling and needed refining (the new 530i pertol is 180g/km compared to 240 for the 3.0 litre XJ!
All models should be fitted with 19" alloys with the suspension designed to cope...
Love the side vents and thats it!
rustymatt said:
Does anybody really still buy these things???
Seems like a waste of money to me, no wonder Ford are going bust....
Seems like a waste of money to me, no wonder Ford are going bust....
If you want a big luxury saloon then what are your alternatives; BMW 7 Series, Mercedes S class, Audi A8 or a Lexus 430.
It would make it onto my list.
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I realise this is a stop gap as new major tooling has to wait for a new car but ... really what were they thinking?
First poster summed up what I thought when I looked - Max Power!
Don't mind the little side vents though.
The Jag saloons have always been handsome but this looks bad (and not in the modern idiom where 'bad' = 'good'!)
First poster summed up what I thought when I looked - Max Power!
Don't mind the little side vents though.
The Jag saloons have always been handsome but this looks bad (and not in the modern idiom where 'bad' = 'good'!)
A Desperate Man said:
Design head Ian Callum said: "Every Jaguar must have a distinctive face, something that you cannot mistake if you catch a glimpse of it in your rear-view mirror as it powers up behind you. The new 2008 XJ range meets that challenge thanks to a new grille and bold new bumper style."
That 'refresh' was a waste of time. It looks like a painting of one former home secretary done by his predecessor. those wing mirrors look huge!
noor said:
That front bumpr just doesnt go with the car. Looks like a max power stick on jobbie.
EXACTLY my first impression - what idiot designed and passed this piece of junk off for production??! - Makes Bangle look an absolute genius!!
Also very concerned in the direction they are going with new S Class
A vast majority of mature respected designers worldwide agree that the classic Jaguar evolution is at the height of the profession - till now...................
UNPC said:
The side vents are my work but I was only following orders! Actually, in the flesh, it doesnt look too bad as has been mentioned, but whether it needed it is another matter. I've always liked the look of the old car. Shame nobody else did.
Who was the chump that thought welding two different cars together at the front was a good idea??????!!!
...not quite sure if its current 3 series M sport version - but it look so similar to the one on the E39 M5. Nice to see them taking a leaf out of the BMW book - albeit 8 years too late.
Why can't they try and do something really imaginative. They did it with the XK and it looks great why go backwards now?
Why can't they try and do something really imaginative. They did it with the XK and it looks great why go backwards now?
Does it come with light-up blue neon washer jets just to finish the look off 
I don't know what market this car is aimed at now, the 'gentleman' looking for an executive express isn't going to be too impressed by the Max-Power look bumper and grille and buyers looking for a sporty big saloon..well most of them aren't going to buy a big Jag are they? The man looking for the combination of a luxury saloon with sporting looks is probably going to pop straight down to his nearest BMW showroom and stick his money on a 5 series with M-Kit IMHO.
I don't know what market this car is aimed at now, the 'gentleman' looking for an executive express isn't going to be too impressed by the Max-Power look bumper and grille and buyers looking for a sporty big saloon..well most of them aren't going to buy a big Jag are they? The man looking for the combination of a luxury saloon with sporting looks is probably going to pop straight down to his nearest BMW showroom and stick his money on a 5 series with M-Kit IMHO.
yellowbentines said:
Does it come with light-up blue neon washer jets just to finish the look off
I don't know what market this car is aimed at now, the 'gentleman' looking for an executive express isn't going to be too impressed by the Max-Power look bumper and grille and buyers looking for a sporty big saloon..well most of them aren't going to buy a big Jag are they? The man looking for the combination of a luxury saloon with sporting looks is probably going to pop straight down to his nearest BMW showroom and stick his money on a 5 series with M-Kit IMHO.
I don't know what market this car is aimed at now, the 'gentleman' looking for an executive express isn't going to be too impressed by the Max-Power look bumper and grille and buyers looking for a sporty big saloon..well most of them aren't going to buy a big Jag are they? The man looking for the combination of a luxury saloon with sporting looks is probably going to pop straight down to his nearest BMW showroom and stick his money on a 5 series with M-Kit IMHO.
Well no one is going to buy a 5series on it's looks are they
it's another Bangle Bungle. What were they thinking of. Still I suppose it looks better than the 7, which is much more likely to be the competitor to an XJ. 5s are a bit sales boy.
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